I agree the way to follow what lies before is too see the path you walk and then share the path(s) of/with others if you choose to
rather than the other way around.
A silent mind is an open mind and when the self is subservient to the mind the eye of the mind can then see. my thought anyway - whence possibilities are clear with a flexible way of thinking
sometimes the choices that we do not make define us as well or better than the ones we make.
And one more thing. I went to retreats and was silent for days. No reading, just experiencing. I tried to do what the mystics said - be silent and contemplate. Or I attended churches to sing and take the communion, I prayed alone and in Bible study groups. I did everything that a christian should do. And of all these mentioned above, it was not from one day to another that I shifted perspective. It was for months or years.
I have been to Israel and Palestine twice and been active in religious dialogue between christians, jews and muslims. And two times I went to the ecumenical monastery Taizé in France, where this beautiful music is made. I can still today listen to this music:
felixis99: I agree the way to follow what lies before is too see the path you walk and then share the path(s) of/with others if you choose torather than the other way around.
A silent mind is an open mind and when the self is subservient to the mind the eye of the mind can then see. my thought anyway - whence possibilities are clear with a flexible way of thinking
sometimes the choices that we do not make define us as well or better than the ones we make.
An excellent analogy, and If I may say so very powerfully expressed, It is truly refreshing to see someone who understands the backbone of another belief system.
Iseek: Very interesting, If you do not mind may I ask what drew you to Buddhism ? Please Feel free to say NO, I would fully understand, I am just curious and not in any way attacking your choice..
Kind Regards
Iseek: That will have to be in my own thread. The dialogue isn't proper here on this thread. Or I will probably write a book about it one day.
Zebaztian: Iseek: That will have to be in my own thread. The dialogue isn't proper here on this thread. Or I will probably write a book about it one day.
I believe I understand that completely, As I have said I do not mean to Pry, I am just Interested.
Like you I too have converted from Christianity many many years ago, for many of the reasons you expressed. Not in any way to disrespect but out of both choice and need.
Iseek: Again I agree, Exactly my point about the psychology of man with reference to the Devil/God and Hell/Heaven thing.
If man took responsibility for his/her own actions (Free Will) one would have to accept ones actions and the Consequences of such actions or failure to act...
No hell for doing wrong, just taking responsibility for the action, and in doing good, No Heaven just the reward of doing good..
Or the consequences for your bad acts. And also the rewards and consequences of others actions, we are all in this together. But there is no eternal reward or consequence.
Zebaztian: So I left church for about 10 years, and last summer I tried to do a "comeback", but these experiences scared me to death in what christians are capable of. I will not tell you here, it's not suitable, because it's too offensive.
I tried to private message you to pursue this, but you don't accept mail from here. I would like to hear more of your story, though.
Dadude62: Or the consequences for your bad acts. And also the rewards and consequences of others actions, we are all in this together. But there is no eternal reward or consequence.
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rather than the other way around.
A silent mind is an open mind and when the self is subservient to the mind the eye of the mind can then see. my thought anyway - whence possibilities are clear with a flexible way of thinking
sometimes the choices that we do not make define us as well or better than the ones we make.