70% per cent of women in a poll stated they would not date a man who was unemployed. ( Archived) (69)

maybe these women believe in what gloria steinem said when she preached, women need men like fish need a bicycle.

You mean Gloria Steinem,Mary Daly the ultimate marxist feminist man haters?

These independent woman are CHOOSING not to be with a man if they don´t want to. A choice is not somehting someone else does to you.

Being "left on the shelf" is something someone else does to you. These women are hardly sitting on a shelf. They have an active interesting life, just not "provided" by a man.

In your own words, the majority of men have always "supported" women, BUT so many don´t need "supporting" anymore.

Why are some men throwing a "wobbly"? Why is it men´s way or the highway? Why do you feel the poll "has been thrown in your face" instead of seeing it as a sign of changing times.... Before, men could take their pick amongst the "needy" women, NOW some women are in a position to choose independently and not through need or fear or going without.

Sounds like it could be some men who are being left on the shelf now but SOME men can´t cope with it and making out "they are leaving THOSE independent women on the shelf"

You see this is where you women fail to see it,we men have always been the protectors and providers,thats right we had to be disposable for women all down through the ages,the other thing is men are now looking elsewhere for marriage ie the far east,independent women don't it below their standards most of them,when they start reaching their forties its to late for them and the looks fade and then they realise this feminism wasent such a good idea for their so called carrers.

These women are mostly very low income people, single and poor mothers.

You have not idea.

yep, one and the same. she does have some interesting insite, like when she said, " We've begun to raise daughters more like sons... but few have the courage to raise our sons more like our daughters."

maybe she's right about...... "The first problem for all of us, men and women, is not to learn, but to unlearn."

and I have to agree with her to a large extent on her statement, "The truth will set you free. But first, it will piss you off."

yep, one and the same. she does have some interesting insite, like when she said, " We've begun to raise daughters more like sons... but few have the courage to raise our sons more like our daughters."

maybe she's right about...... "The first problem for all of us, men and women, is not to learn, but to unlearn."

and I have to agree with her to a large extent on her statement, "The truth will set you free. But first, it will piss you off."The classic feminist statement,so were trying to turn young girls into boys and feminise young boys,no wonder women are more violent and unhappy than ever.

Good time to all!


I have to go to work

I would not date a guy who doesn't work... but is able to... but in my age group at lot are retired and that's OK..

but, there are situations and situations.. if I had been in a relationship and all of a sudden due to circumstances, the guy was not able to work, or made reduntant... that is one thing..

But I would not date a fella who is just plain lazy and doesn't want to work . That tells me that we would not share core values..

Now, if there is a fella who doesn't work because he doesn't have to.. being that he has worked and managed to accumulate his wealth , then that's fine.

I guess the problem is... in polls its sort of a black and white answer, but in real life there is very little black and white answers, most situations differ, and depending on the way the poll is worded, the answers are different for everyone, as everyone has visions of lazy.. incompetant, selfish was mentioned earlier. but there are also good things about why blokes dont work.. and selfsufficient, retired , seasonal workers ( like fishermen) etc need to be considered.