Should the man pay on the second date. ( Archived) (66)

Jul 3, 2012 5:29 PM CST Should the man pay on the second date.
modermen
modermenmodermencork, Cork Ireland66 Threads 1,108 Posts
Good to hear your views.
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Jul 3, 2012 5:34 PM CST Should the man pay on the second date.
montemonte
montemontemontemonteunknown, New Jersey USA114 Threads 4 Polls 5,631 Posts
modermen: Good to hear your views.


Until two people decide that they want to pursue a relationship, I think they should split the bill. Occassionally he or she will want to treat and pay the whole bill but I don't think there should be any expectations. Even after there is a committment, I see no reason why they shouldn't go half on the bill. Back in the era that I'm from the man paid for everything all the time. It was just the way it was. He was expected to be the provider even in a dating situation. Times have changed in everything that is associated with dating. One thing though, if you want her to go half on the bill you need to tell her ahead of time so there aren't any surprises.
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Jul 3, 2012 5:37 PM CST Should the man pay on the second date.
modermen
modermenmodermencork, Cork Ireland66 Threads 1,108 Posts
montemonte: Until two people decide that they want to pursue a relationship, I think they should split the bill. Occassionally he or she will want to treat and pay the whole bill but I don't think there should be any expectations. Even after there is a committment, I see no reason why they shouldn't go half on the bill. Back in the era that I'm from the man paid for everything all the time. It was just the way it was. He was expected to be the provider even in a dating situation. Times have changed in everything that is associated with dating. One thing though, if you want her to go half on the bill you need to tell her ahead of time so there aren't any surprises.
handshake yeahhhhhh fair play to you a woman who has moved with the modern times,thanks.
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Jul 4, 2012 3:15 PM CST Should the man pay on the second date.
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
modermen: Good to hear your views.


Nothing is a "should" in a relationship as seen by anyone outside of it...

People should decide what they wanna do between them, irrespective of what anyone else is doing ...

wine
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Jul 4, 2012 3:36 PM CST Should the man pay on the second date.
DaveD20
DaveD20DaveD20Dublin, Ireland4 Threads 176 Posts
montemonte: Until two people decide that they want to pursue a relationship, I think they should split the bill. Occassionally he or she will want to treat and pay the whole bill but I don't think there should be any expectations. Even after there is a committment, I see no reason why they shouldn't go half on the bill. Back in the era that I'm from the man paid for everything all the time. It was just the way it was. He was expected to be the provider even in a dating situation. Times have changed in everything that is associated with dating. One thing though, if you want her to go half on the bill you need to tell her ahead of time so there aren't any surprises.
Montemonte has made my point eloquently enough, Tks M
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Jul 4, 2012 3:55 PM CST Should the man pay on the second date.
70Libra
70Libra70LibraCounty, Waterford Ireland43 Threads 6,782 Posts
modermen: Good to hear your views.

I don't think the man should be expected to pay all on ANY date. It's an antiquated idea.

50/50 always.
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Jul 4, 2012 3:58 PM CST Should the man pay on the second date.
modermen
modermenmodermencork, Cork Ireland66 Threads 1,108 Posts
70Libra: I don't think the man should be expected to pay all on ANY date. It's an antiquated idea.

50/50 always.
handshake
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Jul 4, 2012 3:59 PM CST Should the man pay on the second date.
montemonte
montemontemontemonteunknown, New Jersey USA114 Threads 4 Polls 5,631 Posts
70Libra: I don't think the man should be expected to pay all on ANY date. It's an antiquated idea.

50/50 always.


thumbs up The woman paying half of the bill keeps things even so he can't expect a reward for buying her dinner.
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Jul 4, 2012 4:03 PM CST Should the man pay on the second date.
modermen
modermenmodermencork, Cork Ireland66 Threads 1,108 Posts
montemonte: The woman paying half of the bill keeps things even so he can't expect a reward for buying her dinner.
If a woman is unemployed through no fault of her own and I liked her and think shes worth it well I think that would be different I wouldent mind paying until she can get a job.
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Jul 4, 2012 4:14 PM CST Should the man pay on the second date.
martini100
martini100martini100wexford, Wexford Ireland19 Threads 2,158 Posts
modermen: If a woman is unemployed through no fault of her own and I liked her and think shes worth it well I think that would be different I wouldent mind paying until she can get a job.


I wouldn't go on a date if i couldn't pay my own way! def 50/50 thumbs up
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Jul 4, 2012 4:19 PM CST Should the man pay on the second date.
montemonte
montemontemontemonteunknown, New Jersey USA114 Threads 4 Polls 5,631 Posts
modermen: If a woman is unemployed through no fault of her own and I liked her and think shes worth it well I think that would be different I wouldent mind paying until she can get a job.


You would do that because you are a gentleman and you like her. A woman in that position would appreciate your generosity.....I know I would.yay
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Jul 4, 2012 4:21 PM CST Should the man pay on the second date.
70Libra
70Libra70LibraCounty, Waterford Ireland43 Threads 6,782 Posts
martini100: I wouldn't go on a date if i couldn't pay my own way! def 50/50

Same as. thumbs up
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Jul 4, 2012 4:22 PM CST Should the man pay on the second date.
montemonte
montemontemontemonteunknown, New Jersey USA114 Threads 4 Polls 5,631 Posts
martini100: I wouldn't go on a date if i couldn't pay my own way! def 50/50


Even when I go on a date just to meet him the first time for coffee I still insist on paying half of the bill and half of the tip. Only once did an Italian man get very mad when I offered $20 towards the bill for lunch. He was really mad and said, leave it for the tip.....and that's what I did. That waitress was probably hoping we come back...laugh
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Jul 4, 2012 4:38 PM CST Should the man pay on the second date.
modermen: No need to worry about dating me because I wouldent date you if you were the last woman on earth,If you read my last comment I stated I would date a girl if she was out of work until she could get a job.




such a defensive and hostile reply goodness

date whom you please, by all meanslaugh roll eyes

usually when people are out of work dating is not a primary concern anyway - looking for work is...

I have never had a man ask me to pay regardless of which one of us has the better jobdunno people on this site are the only ones I ever see obsess about itdunno
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Jul 4, 2012 4:40 PM CST Should the man pay on the second date.
modermen
modermenmodermencork, Cork Ireland66 Threads 1,108 Posts
felixis99: such a defensive and hostile reply goodness

date whom you please, by all means

usually when people are out of work dating is not a primary concern anyway - looking for work is...

I have never had a man ask me to pay regardless of which one of us has the better job people on this site are the only ones I ever see obsess about it
So why don,t you start paying your way then and be a lady.
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Jul 4, 2012 4:46 PM CST Should the man pay on the second date.
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
modermen: So why don,t you start paying your way then and be a lady.

Hey, modern..., do you guys in Dublin still carry a club around when you ask a woman out! flex
Jest kidding, man. cheers
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Jul 4, 2012 4:50 PM CST Should the man pay on the second date.
modermen
modermenmodermencork, Cork Ireland66 Threads 1,108 Posts
galrads: Hey, modern..., do you guys in Dublin still carry a club around when you ask a woman out!
Jest kidding, man.
Ha ha I know its just that some women havent moved with the times and find real equality hard to deal with,some of them only want the nice bits.
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Jul 4, 2012 4:55 PM CST Should the man pay on the second date.
DaveD20
DaveD20DaveD20Dublin, Ireland4 Threads 176 Posts
I wouldn't agree with all Moderman's views but on halving the cost of a date he is spot on.
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Jul 4, 2012 4:55 PM CST Should the man pay on the second date.
modermen: So why don,t you start paying your way then and be a lady.


I honestly don't think you'd recognize a "lady" if she dropped in your lap.

if a man asks me out I would expect him to be picking up the tab - never been a problem - as I said I would hesitate to date a man with your attitude as I doubt it would work - not that you are a bad person but becaus our styles are so different.

my question (and it's rhetorical) is why can;t you be a gentleman and accept that people have different styles and preferences and do not have to mirror yours? There is nothing wrong with my preference nor is there anything wrong with men who prefer to pick up the tab, as I mentioned earlier (for those who can read) there are things that can be learned about a man by how he handles paying for the date. That is important to me.

BTW, I did recently date a man who paid for dinner and then became hostile when I ended things early. Another example is your hostility on here toward women in general. Glad to learn these things early on so not to get involved.

no decent man expects a woman to pay for a date unless she is specifically treating for some reason
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Jul 4, 2012 4:56 PM CST Should the man pay on the second date.
DaveD20: I wouldn't agree with all Moderman's views but on halving the cost of a date he is spot on.


I see no problem with that but I do see a problem with it being "expected"
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