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Aug 19, 2012 5:12 PM CST Newsweek "Hit the road Barrack we need a new president"
IamTab
IamTabIamTabCookeville, Tennessee USA77 Threads 341 Posts

Niall Ferguson: Obama’s Gotta Go
I was a good loser four years ago. “In the grand scheme of history,” I wrote the day after Barack Obama’s election as president, “four decades is not an especially long time. Yet in that brief period America has gone from the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. to the apotheosis of Barack Obama. You would not be human if you failed to acknowledge this as a cause for great rejoicing.”

Despite having been—full disclosure—an adviser to John McCain, I acknowledged his opponent’s remarkable qualities: his soaring oratory, his cool, hard-to-ruffle temperament, and his near faultless campaign organization.
In his inaugural address, Obama promised “not only to create new jobs, but to lay a new foundation for growth.” He promised to “build the roads and bridges, the electric grids, and digital lines that feed our commerce and bind us together.” He promised to “restore science to its rightful place and wield technology’s wonders to raise health care’s quality and lower its cost.” And he promised to “transform our schools and colleges and universities to meet the demands of a new age.” Unfortunately the president’s scorecard on every single one of those bold pledges is pitiful.
Unemployment was supposed to be 6 percent by now. It has averaged 8.2 percent this year so far. Meanwhile real median annual household income has dropped more than 5 percent since June 2009. Nearly 110 million individuals received a welfare benefit in 2011, mostly Medicaid or food stamps.

Welcome to Obama’s America: nearly half the population is not represented on a taxable return—almost exactly the same proportion that lives in a household where at least one member receives some type of government benefit. We are becoming the 50–50 nation—half of us paying the taxes, the other half receiving the benefits.

Yet the question confronting the country nearly four years later is not who was the better candidate four years ago. It is whether the winner has delivered on his promises. And the sad truth is that he has not.
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Aug 19, 2012 5:16 PM CST Newsweek "Hit the road Barrack we need a new president"
BarryA
BarryABarryAhalifax, Nova Scotia Canada1 Threads 48 Posts
It takes 2 to Tango and the Repubs didn't want to Tango. There's your answer.
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Aug 19, 2012 5:22 PM CST Newsweek "Hit the road Barrack we need a new president"
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
BarryA: It takes 2 to Tango and the Repubs didn't want to Tango. There's your answer.


They were never playing our music.....dancing
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Aug 19, 2012 5:26 PM CST Newsweek "Hit the road Barrack we need a new president"
Rumple4skin
Rumple4skinRumple4skinStoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England UK4 Threads 1 Polls 980 Posts
You're not doing much worse than most other Western nations though, are you?

It also helps to consider the state of the global economy and the ill-favourable economic winds prevailing at the moment.. and for the a nation that ultimately believes in the ineffectiveness of government you display a remarkable ability to blame the government for everything.

I just remember this knee-jerk "yes we can do it if we only had change" mentality as being the same that elected Obama, and you're doing it again.

Honestly, it's as if you Americans believe wealth and prosperity will simply fall from the sky.
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Aug 19, 2012 5:34 PM CST Newsweek "Hit the road Barrack we need a new president"
IamTab
IamTabIamTabCookeville, Tennessee USA77 Threads 341 Posts
Rumple4skin: You're not doing much worse than most other Western nations though, are you?

It also helps to consider the state of the global economy and the ill-favourable economic winds prevailing at the moment.. and for the a nation that ultimately believes in the ineffectiveness of government you display a remarkable ability to blame the government for everything.

I just remember this knee-jerk "yes we can do it if we only had change" mentality as being the same that elected Obama, and you're doing it again.

Honestly, it's as if you Americans believe wealth and prosperity will simply fall from the sky.


"WE" always did well before even when the rest of the world was in the tank! America "was" once 50% of the world's economy! Look at us now!!
Who was in charge in DC? The Democrats and Republicans!! Just out forefathers foretold "when the politicians are "for sale" this would happen", and they were right!
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Aug 19, 2012 5:36 PM CST Newsweek "Hit the road Barrack we need a new president"
IamTab
IamTabIamTabCookeville, Tennessee USA77 Threads 341 Posts
ttom500: They were never playing our music.....


And all of them in DC lied to us, what they were playing was a funeral march!
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Aug 19, 2012 6:53 PM CST Newsweek "Hit the road Barrack we need a new president"
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Rumple4skin: The housing bubble, this is symptoms, Tom, nothing but symptoms. You must tackle the issues that give rise to this and it does not take a genius to figure what that is; consume lots, create little = debt. Debt across all spheres of the economy; individual, corporate, national.. whatever, it's all the same.

Roving on Mars? I'm not even going to say what I think of spending money on that right now.


You were talking prosperity. As I said housing was only one criteria.
Housing construction in the US is a major employer. It makes new jobs in construction and in manufacturing. A good share of our unemployment is accountable to the weak housing market. That is accountable still to the Frank decision.

Even though Barney Frank knocked down the price of housing....he did not find the personal income increases to afford even the lower cost housing. Equity is something that belongs to the home owner who has invested in and maintained his home. Not to the government. The way I see it, Frank did not have the 'right' to do what he did.

Barney Frank eroded a lot of sweat equity that American home owner had placed into their homes. Hence it was a real lost to their prosperity.

But some screwy House Finance Commmittee rules allowed him to make the re-appriasal. Am not even sure he acted on passed legislation.

Don't get excited over the Mars Rover. It was just an example of American innovation. As we say here. If you build it. More will come. Ok I paraphrased. You have to be a baseball and movie fan to understand that. But honestly, we are on a major spike on the innovation curve. Specially in aerospace. And innovation is jobs and prosperity here. So get ready for it.
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Aug 19, 2012 7:09 PM CST Newsweek "Hit the road Barrack we need a new president"
Rumple4skin
Rumple4skinRumple4skinStoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England UK4 Threads 1 Polls 980 Posts
ttom500: You were talking prosperity. As I said housing was only one criteria.
Housing construction in the US is a major employer. It makes new jobs in construction and in manufacturing. A good share of our unemployment is accountable to the weak housing market. That is accountable still to the Frank decision.

Even though Barney Frank knocked down the price of housing....he did not find the personal income increases to afford even the lower cost housing. Equity is something that belongs to the home owner who has invested in and maintained his home. Not to the government. The way I see it, Frank did not have the 'right' to do what he did.

Barney Frank eroded a lot of sweat equity that American home owner had placed into their homes. Hence it was a real lost to their prosperity.

But some screwy House Finance Commmittee rules allowed him to make the re-appriasal. Am not even sure he acted on passed legislation.

Don't get excited over the Mars Rover. It was just an example of American innovation. As we say here. If you build it. More will come. Ok I paraphrased. You have to be a baseball and movie fan to understand that. But honestly, we are on a major spike on the innovation curve. Specially in aerospace. And innovation is jobs and prosperity here. So get ready for it.


Your role model is Field of dreams?
A Man who builds a baseball field in his backyard for ghosts. That's your market research?

I'm only joking, by the way.

As you say, he didn't find the income increase so without the purchasing power for affordable housing it's a rather fruitless endeavour.
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Aug 20, 2012 2:35 AM CST Newsweek "Hit the road Barrack we need a new president"
Rumple4skin: You're not doing much worse than most other Western nations though, are you?

It also helps to consider the state of the global economy and the ill-favourable economic winds prevailing at the moment.. and for the a nation that ultimately believes in the ineffectiveness of government you display a remarkable ability to blame the government for everything.

I just remember this knee-jerk "yes we can do it if we only had change" mentality as being the same that elected Obama, and you're doing it again.

Honestly, it's as if you Americans believe wealth and prosperity will simply fall from the sky.
doh
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Aug 20, 2012 2:46 AM CST Newsweek "Hit the road Barrack we need a new president"
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
Acknoweledge a Historical factor, Empires come and go.- The name of the leader towards the "final count down", is of no importance. Could be you,me,Obama,Romney,or a redneck.-
IamTab: "WE" always did well before even when the rest of the world was in the tank! America "was" once 50% of the world's economy! Look at us now!!
Who was in charge in DC? The Democrats and Republicans!! Just out forefathers foretold "when the politicians are "for sale" this would happen", and they were right!
laugh
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Aug 20, 2012 12:45 PM CST Newsweek "Hit the road Barrack we need a new president"
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
Soon Obama will move into his bunker.
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Aug 20, 2012 12:59 PM CST Newsweek "Hit the road Barrack we need a new president"
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
chris27292729: Empires come and go.- The name of the leader towards the "final count down", is of no importance. Could be you,me,Obama,Romney,or a redneck.-


Could be. But those who choose such people are careful to choose someone whose actions they can control.

This kind of article will push Obama in a very predictable direction.

He knows he'll lose the election.

What he really needs now is a big crisis or terrorist act to "justify" seizing dictatorial control.

Bet he finds one.
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Aug 20, 2012 1:00 PM CST Newsweek "Hit the road Barrack we need a new president"
RayfromUSA: Soon Obama will move into his bunker.


Hopefully out the back door...has shamed us enough already...let him sneak out the back, and "be gone"!

~JOHN~cheers
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Aug 20, 2012 1:40 PM CST Newsweek "Hit the road Barrack we need a new president"
montemonte
montemontemontemonteunknown, New Jersey USA114 Threads 4 Polls 5,631 Posts
TheresMyFriend: Hopefully out the back door...has shamed us enough already...let him sneak out the back, and "be gone"!

~JOHN~


I heard yesterday in a news report that he had a brewery installed in the white house. Apparently, way back in the Jimmy Carter days he made it lawful to do that. Probably because brother Billy liked his beer...
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Aug 20, 2012 2:08 PM CST Newsweek "Hit the road Barrack we need a new president"
montemonte: I heard yesterday in a news report that he had a brewery installed in the white house. Apparently, way back in the Jimmy Carter days he made it lawful to do that. Probably because brother Billy liked his beer...


Probably getting geared up to throw an "all-niter", when he is beaten in this election....

~JOHN~thumbs up
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Aug 20, 2012 3:44 PM CST Newsweek "Hit the road Barrack we need a new president"
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
The interesting thing about this article is that it's from Newsweek. Since Tina Brown's Daily Beast took over Newsweek, the magazine has been one of the most left-leaning publications in the country.

Doesn't bode well for Obama when a publication that has historically worshiped him now runs this piece on its cover...
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Aug 23, 2012 3:38 PM CST Newsweek "Hit the road Barrack we need a new president"
IamTab
IamTabIamTabCookeville, Tennessee USA77 Threads 341 Posts
WhatUwish4: Oh\\
Oh that's funny! Talk about sour grapes!


"The president pledged that health-care reform would not add a cent to the deficit. But the CBO and the Joint Committee on Taxation now estimate that the insurance-coverage provisions of the ACA will have a net cost of close to $1.2 trillion over the 2012–22 period."

The CBO "Congressional Budget Office" that's the "gov" accounting office!!

THAT IS fact checking!!!!
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Aug 23, 2012 3:45 PM CST Newsweek "Hit the road Barrack we need a new president"
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
IamTab: "The president pledged that health-care reform would not add a cent to the deficit. But the CBO and the Joint Committee on Taxation now estimate that the insurance-coverage provisions of the ACA will have a net cost of close to $1.2 trillion over the 2012–22 period."

The CBO "Congressional Budget Office" that's the "gov" accounting office!!

THAT IS fact checking!!!!

I hope you are now satisfied!
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Aug 23, 2012 5:18 PM CST Newsweek "Hit the road Barrack we need a new president"
hotburninluv
hotburninluvhotburninluvPalm Desert, California USA30 Threads 1 Polls 297 Posts
I realize there are still many that continue to drink the Obama koolaid of that "hope and change" hogwash. Some have been controlled into believing (especially guilty is our compliant, lap-dog, Obama Loving Main Stream Media trying to convince EVERYBODY) that most EVERYTHING their hero touches, turns GOLD. Nothing could be further from the TRUTH! But, You believe what you want to believe!

If You want four more years of OBLAMO! Here's what you're going to get: If you already can't get enough of that $5.00/Gal, how about even higher GAS PRICES? Higher Food Prices?
You what HIGHER Unemployment with NO END in sight! He's your man! If you want your hero OBLAMO to keep on SPENDING and SPENDING, and like there's no TOMORROW! It will be DONE! With NO RESULTS in sight!? He's ALREADY DOING IT and DID IT! He's ALREADY sent US into DEBT to the tune of $5 TRILLION DOLLARS!

Most AMERICANS DON'T want this ONE-AND-DONE President bumbling around for another four more years! And all HIS OVER-PROMISING and UNDER-DELIVERING gets very tiresome to people!
They are especially tried of his "pathological lying" and him NOT having the "balls" to take ANY RESPONSIBILTY WHATSOEVER for the poor economy, or the huge UNEMPLOYMENT NUMBERS! Instead he's there "whining like little baby" (BOO HOO, saying it's EVERYBODY else's FAULT, AND NOT ANY of HIS, nor HIS POLICIES!)

BOTTOMLINE: A FAILED OBAMA PRESIDENCY, one "that keeps on giving", and having him pleading with the American people to "contract" HIM for another four year! Another four years FOR WHAT!? Four more wasted years as President? With another "LOUSY" Record as a President!? He had his chance at the Presidency...and FAILED MISERABLY!! Time to move aside and Give Someone else a chance! ANY other manager of TEAM AMERICAN, or any Major Leagues basball TEAM, given THEIR LOUSY RECORD, would have been FIRED right away!
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