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Aug 22, 2012 4:59 PM CST Gun History
IamTab
IamTabIamTabCookeville, Tennessee USA77 Threads 341 Posts
Gun History

After reading the following historical facts, read the part
About Switzerland twice.

A LITTLE GUN HISTORY

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control.. From 1929 to 1953,
About 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were
rounded up and exterminated.

In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million
Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and Exterminated.

Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a
total Of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.


China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million

Political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up
and Exterminated


Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000
Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
Exterminated.

Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000

Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
Exterminated

Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one
million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and Exterminated.

Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century

Because of gun control: 56 million.

You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians
Disseminating this information.
Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes,
Gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens

Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late!
The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind
them

>>>> Of this history lesson.

>>>> With guns, we are 'citizens.'

>>>> Without them, we are 'subjects'.

During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because
they knew

Most Americans were ARMED!

>>>> If you value your freedom, please spread this anti-gun control
message To all of your friends.

>>>> The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in
Defense. The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is
more Important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is

>>>> Supplemental.

>>>> SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN!
SWITZERLAND 'S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE.
SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!

>>>> IT'S A NO BRAINER!

>>>> DON'T LET OUR GOVERNMENT WASTE MILLIONS OF OUR TAX DOLLARS
IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE ALL LAW ABIDING CITIZENS AN EASY TARGET.

>>>> I'm a firm believer of the 2nd Amendment!
If you are too, please forward.

>>>> Just think how powerful our government is getting!

>>>> They think these other countries just didn't do it right.
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Aug 22, 2012 5:01 PM CST Gun History
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Facts are just so damn inconvenient.
laugh laugh
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Aug 22, 2012 5:06 PM CST Gun History
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
IamTab: Gun History

After reading the following historical facts, read the part
About Switzerland twice.

A LITTLE GUN HISTORY

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control.. From 1929 to 1953,
About 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were
rounded up and exterminated.

In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million
Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and Exterminated.

Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a
total Of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated. China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million

Political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up
and Exterminated


Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000
Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
Exterminated.

Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000

Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
Exterminated

Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one
million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and Exterminated.

Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century

Because of gun control: 56 million.

You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians
Disseminating this information.
Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes,
Gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens

Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late!
The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind
them

>>>> Of this history lesson.

>>>> With guns, we are 'citizens.'

>>>> Without them, we are 'subjects'.

During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because
they knew

Most Americans were ARMED!

>>>> If you value your freedom, please spread this anti-gun control
message To all of your friends.

>>>> The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in
Defense. The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is
more Important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is

>>>> Supplemental.

>>>> SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN!
SWITZERLAND 'S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE.
SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!

>>>> IT'S A NO BRAINER!

>>>> DON'T LET OUR GOVERNMENT WASTE MILLIONS OF OUR TAX DOLLARS
IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE ALL LAW ABIDING CITIZENS AN EASY TARGET.

>>>> I'm a firm believer of the 2nd Amendment!
If you are too, please forward.

>>>> Just think how powerful our government is getting!

>>>> They think these other countries just didn't do it right.

Gee so the fact that world war 1 and 2 happened in those years have nothing to do with the figures ,besides how on earth are you gonna defend yourself as an individual with a gun and maybe a rifle against a police squad or a army Artillery battery
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Aug 22, 2012 5:10 PM CST Gun History
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA527 Threads 2 Polls 4,775 Posts
wow Amazing stats!

And we all have seen how History in fact, does repeat itself.sad flower

Now, go post that on my Gun Control Creates Victims thread please!

Thanks,
HL
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Aug 22, 2012 6:26 PM CST Gun History
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Boban1: Gee so the fact that world war 1 and 2 happened in those years have nothing to do with the figures ,besides how on earth are you gonna defend yourself as an individual with a gun and maybe a rifle against a police squad or a army Artillery battery


Maybe just being prepared (armed) like our founding fathers were, answers your question to some degree.
George Washington and his rebellious gang knew full well they probably would face a guillotine for high treason if they would have lost the revolutionary war and were caught.
I'd like to se more leaders like that who don't have testicular atrophy, unlike most any of our presidents since Lincoln.

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Aug 22, 2012 6:33 PM CST Gun History
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA527 Threads 2 Polls 4,775 Posts
Boban1: Gee so the fact that world war 1 and 2 happened in those years have nothing to do with the figures ,besides how on earth are you gonna defend yourself as an individual with a gun and maybe a rifle against a police squad or a army Artillery battery



Yes, what Galrads said and then you link up with others who are like-minded and together you are stronger and you survive.

HLgroup hug danceline group hug danceline group hug danceline group hug danceline group hug danceline group hug danceline group hug danceline group hug
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Aug 22, 2012 6:59 PM CST Gun History
ITZTLACOLIUHQUI
ITZTLACOLIUHQUIITZTLACOLIUHQUITepectli Monamictlan, Mictlan, Mexico State Mexico1 Threads 50 Posts
IamTab: Gun History

After reading the following historical facts, read the part
About Switzerland twice.

A LITTLE GUN HISTORY

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control.. From 1929 to 1953,
About 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were
rounded up and exterminated.

In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million
Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and Exterminated.

Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a
total Of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated. China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million

Political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up
and Exterminated


Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000
Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
Exterminated.

Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000

Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
Exterminated

Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one
million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and Exterminated.

Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century

Because of gun control: 56 million.

You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians
Disseminating this information.
Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes,
Gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens

Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late!
The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind
them

>>>> Of this history lesson.

>>>> With guns, we are 'citizens.'

>>>> Without them, we are 'subjects'.

During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because
they knew

Most Americans were ARMED!

>>>> If you value your freedom, please spread this anti-gun control
message To all of your friends.

>>>> The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in
Defense. The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is
more Important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is

>>>> Supplemental.

>>>> SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN!
SWITZERLAND 'S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE.
SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!

>>>> IT'S A NO BRAINER!

>>>> DON'T LET OUR GOVERNMENT WASTE MILLIONS OF OUR TAX DOLLARS
IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE ALL LAW ABIDING CITIZENS AN EASY TARGET.

>>>> I'm a firm believer of the 2nd Amendment!
If you are too, please forward.

>>>> Just think how powerful our government is getting!

>>>> They think these other countries just didn't do it right.


My ancestors of Tenochtitlan, ritual cannibalism were doing, I can not imagine anyone today, arguing that to justify an act so foolish, invoke historical rights, based on a reality already outdated worthless argumentative, according to the logic of the American People .

And I stick to the evidence. frustrated
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Aug 22, 2012 7:09 PM CST Gun History
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
ITZTLACOLIUHQUI: My ancestors of Tenochtitlan, ritual cannibalism were doing, I can not imagine anyone today, arguing that to justify an act so foolish, invoke historical rights, based on a reality already outdated worthless argumentative, according to the logic of the American People .

And I stick to the evidence.

You appear to me to be the only one off track here, talking about cannibalism. Self defense and freedom are never out dated in my book.

But, if you want to talk about vpcanabalism and stay on track, I sure hope I have something to defend myself with (like a gun) If a bunch of cannibals show up at my home (anywhere actually) and try to serve me up for dinner.

frustrated
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Aug 22, 2012 7:14 PM CST Gun History
bornagainheretic
bornagainhereticbornagainhereticCordova, Alabama USA1 Threads 6 Posts
Boban1: Gee so the fact that world war 1 and 2 happened in those years have nothing to do with the figures ,besides how on earth are you gonna defend yourself as an individual with a gun and maybe a rifle against a police squad or a army Artillery battery


Those figures don't include military action casualties, and as for how effective we would be as militant citizens? The greatest nightmare of any modern military army is an armed partisan force which overwhelmingly outnumbers the opposing professional troops and is also familiar with the local terrain.

That is the REAL reason that the 2nd Amendment to our Constitution exists.
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Aug 22, 2012 7:28 PM CST Gun History
joyaepace
joyaepacejoyaepaceGalway, Ireland11 Threads 2 Polls 958 Posts
What is a pistol against the machine gun or tanks or all the power of establishment? What can you do with your little guns against your government? It is may be that you feel safer against intruders in your house if you are armed, but not against modern government. You even are not aware of all the ways you are controlled. sigh
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Aug 22, 2012 7:52 PM CST Gun History
menu11
menu11menu11Galveston, Texas USA1,323 Posts
joyaepace: What is a pistol against the machine gun or tanks or all the power of establishment? What can you do with your little guns against your government? It is may be that you feel safer against intruders in your house if you are armed, but not against modern government. You even are not aware of all the ways you are controlled.


So true. We have to fight back not to be target sitting ducks. Vietnam was my expieriace where i killed.....not here in the U.S.. Self defense don't even count, because anyone is guilty until proven innocent. wine
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Aug 22, 2012 7:53 PM CST Gun History
Rumple4skin
Rumple4skinRumple4skinStoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England UK4 Threads 1 Polls 980 Posts
Saddam in Iraq didn't use gun control - they do now
Afghanistan didn't use gun control - they do now
Ahmadinejad doesn't use gun control - they probably soon will

I thought these people needed liberating?
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Aug 22, 2012 8:12 PM CST Gun History
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Rumple4skin: Saddam in Iraq didn't use gun control - they do now
Afghanistan didn't use gun control - they do now
Ahmadinejad doesn't use gun control - they probably soon will

I thought these people needed liberating?


rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing yeah, all of sadams subjects loved getting on there knees instead to kiss his hands hoping they'd be spared tortures etc.
yeah, sadam's police, priest, phrophets, uncles and aunts and military didn't use guns, tanks, jets, boms, pepper spray, deodarant, soap, pee and or other toxic weapons of mass destruction on his people's, did he..... Come on... The world isn't flat no moe.... frustrated frustrated frustrated
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Aug 22, 2012 8:15 PM CST Gun History
IamTab
IamTabIamTabCookeville, Tennessee USA77 Threads 341 Posts
Boban1: Gee so the fact that world war 1 and 2 happened in those years have nothing to do with the figures ,besides how on earth are you gonna defend yourself as an individual with a gun and maybe a rifle against a police squad or a army Artillery battery


DID YOU MISS;

During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because
they knew;

Most Americans were ARMED!

During the Nixon years a Russian General was taking a train trip across the US and a reporter asked him about Russia invading the US.
The General replied if it was just the US military that would not be such a problem. Russia could defeat the US military.
It was the American citizens owning 4 guns for every 1 gun of US military that was Russia's problem. He continued saying a guerrilla war getting shot at from behind every tree and rock by so many well armed citizens that was the problem. The US "citizens" made conquering America impossible, not the US military.
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Aug 22, 2012 8:18 PM CST Gun History
IamTab
IamTabIamTabCookeville, Tennessee USA77 Threads 341 Posts
Rumple4skin: Saddam in Iraq didn't use gun control - they do now
Afghanistan didn't use gun control - they do now
Ahmadinejad doesn't use gun control - they probably soon will

I thought these people needed liberating?


These are all countries were many live in tents out in the desert.
1.What few guns they do have are very old and far out dated.
2. They didn't have enough money to buy enough bullets.

Why?
Dictators keep them poor as means to control them!!
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Aug 22, 2012 8:20 PM CST Gun History
Rumple4skin
Rumple4skinRumple4skinStoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England UK4 Threads 1 Polls 980 Posts
galrads: yeah, all of sadams subjects loved getting on there knees instead to kiss his hands hoping they'd be spared tortures etc.
yeah, sadam's police, priest, phrophets, uncles and aunts and military didn't use guns, tanks, jets, boms, pepper spray, deodarant, soap, pee and or other toxic weapons of mass destruction on his people's, did he..... Come on... The world isn't flat no moe....


Well, either the US foreign policy is flawed or the argument on gun control is.

One or the other.

Or maybe, just maybe, this issue isn't as simplistic as it's presented to be.
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Aug 22, 2012 8:23 PM CST Gun History
Rumple4skin
Rumple4skinRumple4skinStoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England UK4 Threads 1 Polls 980 Posts
IamTab: These are all countries were many live in tents out in the desert.
1.What few guns they do have are very old and far out dated.
2. They didn't have enough money to buy enough bullets.

Why?
Dictators keep them poor as means to control them!!


If Somalians can afford AK-47's I think the Iraqi's could.
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Aug 22, 2012 8:29 PM CST Gun History
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Rumple4skin: Well, either the US foreign policy is flawed or the argument on gun control is.

One or the other.

Or maybe, just maybe, this issue isn't as simplistic as it's presented to be.

Well, maybe it's only an issue for those who fear the dark.
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Aug 22, 2012 8:34 PM CST Gun History
Rumple4skin
Rumple4skinRumple4skinStoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England UK4 Threads 1 Polls 980 Posts
galrads: Well, maybe it's only an issue for those who fear the dark.


For years before England brought in gun laws we still didn't buy guns.

Our law on guns matches our culture, you see.
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Aug 22, 2012 8:36 PM CST Gun History
IamTab
IamTabIamTabCookeville, Tennessee USA77 Threads 341 Posts
joyaepace: What is a pistol against the machine gun or tanks or all the power of establishment? What can you do with your little guns against your government? It is may be that you feel safer against intruders in your house if you are armed, but not against modern government. You even are not aware of all the ways you are controlled.


Maybe you don't know the citizens here in the US own 4 guns for every 1 gun of the US military.
Here in "The South" ( the south eastern US ) some families own well 500 guns and huge stock of ammo.
This do not count the Bows and Crossbows many hunters use either.
Here we grow up out in the woods shooting squirrels out of trees 40 ft tall and 100 yrds away as boys not yet 10 years old. By the time we reach 30 many learn to shoot squirrels in the head from that distance to get more meat.
So body armor and bullet proof vests don't stop a bullet hitting you in the eye from 100 yrds away. A 22 can be silenced with a plastic bottle. They would never hear the round fired, just drop dead on the spot.
Stick your head out of a tank hatch and you could die instantly.
Stick a small log in the track of a tank and it goes no where.
Guess what "WE" now have that tank!!!
Many here go out to hunt and fish for a month or at time, even in the dead of winter. We can sneak up on deer and rabbits.
A soldier would be much easier!! And he would never hear us coming or see us as we wear camo clothes a lot here just to go into town.
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