There Is No Magic In The World ( Archived) (46)

Apr 15, 2013 7:21 AM CST There Is No Magic In The World
ynotleon69
ynotleon69ynotleon69Tuscaloosa, Alabama USA73 Threads 21 Polls 798 Posts
In response to: "This idea that good things happen to good people. That there's magic in the world. Too many good people suffer for that to be true. Too many prayers go unanswered. And every day it just gets worse. Every day we ignore how truly broken this world is, and we tell ourselves it's all going to be okay. But it's not okay. And once you know that, there's no going back. There's no magic in the world... at least not today there isn't...."

Sometimes bad things happen to good people…. what would you do without your "world"?
magic happens ever moment of every day in large and also invisible ways. its a matter of recognising them and appreciating them. thats where life becomes magic.
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Apr 15, 2013 7:26 AM CST There Is No Magic In The World
PrOwLeR_
PrOwLeR_PrOwLeR_Mermaid BeacH, Queensland Australia98 Threads 1,290 Posts
Bogart_1960: "This idea that good things happen to good people. That there's magic in the world. Too many good people suffer for that to be true. Too many prayers go unanswered. And every day it just gets worse. Every day we ignore how truly broken this world is, and we tell ourselves it's all going to be okay. But it's not okay. And once you know that, there's no going back. There's no magic in the world... at least not today there isn't...."

Sometimes bad things happen to good people…. what would you do without your "world"?




There is magic in the world ... and plenty of it ... LooK outside the square and you will see it every other day ... ...


Try It ....
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Apr 15, 2013 8:08 AM CST There Is No Magic In The World
KNenagh
KNenaghKNenaghAachen, Kilkenny Ireland12 Threads 11,160 Posts
In response to: "This idea that good things happen to good people. That there's magic in the world. Too many good people suffer for that to be true. Too many prayers go unanswered. And every day it just gets worse. Every day we ignore how truly broken this world is, and we tell ourselves it's all going to be okay. But it's not okay. And once you know that, there's no going back. There's no magic in the world... at least not today there isn't...."

Sometimes bad things happen to good people…. what would you do without your "world"?


I don't know if I'll answer your question with the following Bogart, but here is my 2 cents worth: Life isn't fair and in a lot of cases, we can't do anything about it, I also don't believe in karma. dunno

Is there magic? Not as in the fairy tale ones, but there were moments in my life that when I look back, it makes me smile and they are magic to me. smile
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Apr 15, 2013 8:43 AM CST There Is No Magic In The World
Bogart_1960
Bogart_1960Bogart_1960Ask me !, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France36 Threads 1 Polls 10,012 Posts
PrOwLeR_: There is magic in the world ... and plenty of it ... LooK outside the square and you will see it every other day ... ...Try It ....


PrOwLeR, _thanks... but, This post is NOT about me; I am a one of the fortunate ones!!!

Rephrasing the question:

1. in this world of turbulence, how do you react with the notion of “no magic” in your own lives?

2. What is human nature, and how do we react to the “bad magic” of the world? (war, famine, pollution, etc)
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Apr 15, 2013 8:47 AM CST There Is No Magic In The World
Bogart_1960
Bogart_1960Bogart_1960Ask me !, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France36 Threads 1 Polls 10,012 Posts
KNenagh: I don't know if I'll answer your question with the following Bogart, but here is my 2 cents worth: Life isn't fair and in a lot of cases, we can't do anything about it, I also don't believe in karma.

Is there magic? Not as in the fairy tale ones, but there were moments in my life that when I look back, it makes me smile and they are magic to me.


KNenagh, thanks...
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Apr 15, 2013 12:20 PM CST There Is No Magic In The World
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
I totally disagree Bogey. Magic and miracles are al around us everyday. We live in a world of infinite possibilities. People are so busy sometimes waiting for that blinding flash of light. In reality miracles are small things that happen all the time.

I cant imagine living in a world with-out miracles or magic, maybe what it takes is simple belief and the eyes to see them with. wine
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Apr 15, 2013 12:23 PM CST There Is No Magic In The World
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
Bump wink
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Apr 15, 2013 12:29 PM CST There Is No Magic In The World
Bogart_1960
Bogart_1960Bogart_1960Ask me !, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France36 Threads 1 Polls 10,012 Posts
venusenvy: I totally disagree Bogey. Magic and miracles are al around us everyday. We live in a world of infinite possibilities. People are so busy sometimes waiting for that blinding flash of light. In reality miracles are small things that happen all the time.

I cant imagine living in a world with-out miracles or magic, maybe what it takes is simple belief and the eyes to see them with.


Thanks, Venus, thumbs up our decisions are under our control to the extent we believe… !!
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Apr 15, 2013 12:31 PM CST There Is No Magic In The World
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
Bogart_1960: Thanks, Venus, our decisions are under our control to the extent we believe… !!


If can imagine it, we can make it happen...So maybe thats the magic! peace
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Apr 15, 2013 12:37 PM CST There Is No Magic In The World
Bogart_1960
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venusenvy: If can imagine it, we can make it happen...So maybe thats the magic!


"we"...thats the magic!...
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Apr 15, 2013 12:40 PM CST There Is No Magic In The World
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
Bogart_1960: "we"...thats the magic!...


thumbs up
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Apr 15, 2013 1:59 PM CST There Is No Magic In The World
Awwwwwwwwww....If you´ve lost it...........just try seeing the world through the eyes of a child....it´ll soon come back.
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Apr 15, 2013 2:27 PM CST There Is No Magic In The World
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
You're right, but the "good things happen to good people" delusion serves as an effective coping mechanism for people that are suffering. Just as it's a good way of cleansing any sense of social responsibility from people that are not.
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Apr 15, 2013 2:39 PM CST There Is No Magic In The World
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
Bogart_1960: "This idea that good things happen to good people. That there's magic in the world. Too many good people suffer for that to be true. Too many prayers go unanswered. And every day it just gets worse. Every day we ignore how truly broken this world is, and we tell ourselves it's all going to be okay. But it's not okay. And once you know that, there's no going back. There's no magic in the world... at least not today there isn't...."

Sometimes bad things happen to good people…. what would you do without your "world"?

Are people 'good', or 'bad'?

Are things 'good', or 'bad'.

Perhaps the magic is in the recognition that one person may be both 'good' and 'bad'...and we can make 'good' things out of 'bad' things, or 'bad' things out of 'good'.
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Apr 15, 2013 2:46 PM CST There Is No Magic In The World
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Obstinance_Works: You're right, but the "good things happen to good people" delusion serves as an effective coping mechanism for people that are suffering. Just as it's a good way of cleansing any sense of social responsibility from people that are not.



Queen Victoria's era lives on in some peoples mind's, would you be a puritan going to America?
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Apr 15, 2013 2:59 PM CST There Is No Magic In The World
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
tomcatwarne: Queen Victoria's era lives on in some peoples mind's, would you be a puritan going to America?


I'd say we're much more Edwardian than Victorian.

But seen as the Puritans were a groups of zealots who felt that the British establishment was too Liberal and open to alien and subversive views, then my answer would have to be yes.
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Apr 15, 2013 3:00 PM CST There Is No Magic In The World
There´s magic in viewing the colour combination in a rainbow
There´s magic looking into the eyes of someone beloved
There´s magic meeting old friends from that distant "ago"
There´s magic touching your soul when you are loved.
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Apr 15, 2013 3:57 PM CST There Is No Magic In The World
Bogart_1960
Bogart_1960Bogart_1960Ask me !, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France36 Threads 1 Polls 10,012 Posts
jac379: Are people 'good', or 'bad'?

Are things 'good', or 'bad'.

Perhaps the magic is in the recognition that one person may be both 'good' and 'bad'...and we can make 'good' things out of 'bad' things, or 'bad' things out of 'good'.


thumbs up very true....different backgrounds, and not knowing which moral system we value...might have influence also..
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Apr 15, 2013 4:00 PM CST There Is No Magic In The World
funxsinia
funxsiniafunxsiniaButtholeville, Iowa USA9 Threads 2 Polls 328 Posts
Dang Bogart...watching what is unfolding in Boston right now really got me thinking about your thread my brother...seems like we all need to do what we can to make this a better world...
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Apr 15, 2013 4:03 PM CST There Is No Magic In The World
AustralianGirlAU
AustralianGirlAUAustralianGirlAUIzmir, Aegean Turkey196 Posts
Bogart_1960: I dont think you read the post; it has nothing to do with religion : the question "is Sometimes bad things happen to good people…. what would you do without your "world"?"

or , to clarify, How behavior originates from the notion of human nature, or more specifically, that behavior is largely caused by someone's immediate environment. What is human nature, and does it exist?


Ah misunderstood in my own lifetime ;-) Bogart u always give me an F for my responses. Perhaps we are on different tangents and I will not reply as you expect? One to ponder
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