jamiethekid: thank you would like to dedicate my award to lol , you would like to see a genuine family out of work trying to pay bills and has the opportunity to get an odd job to help him survive Get real muppet
And the government is forced to implement greater cuts to social welfare benefits that are necessary thanks to a minority of welfare recipients scamming the system when the majority of welfare recipients are unemployed and seeking work.
kennyfromdublin: And the government is forced to implement greater cuts to social welfare benefits that are necessary thanks to a minority of welfare recipients scamming the system when the majority of welfare recipients are unemployed and seeking work.
the scammers are the ones that I quoted on marionette earlier on.would you seriously hold a grudge on a man that worked all his life now laid redundant no fault of his and struggling to pay his mortgage and food on table, basically these kidda people are only entitled to so much while the scammers know the system inside out.They have council housing while the struggling man wants to restore pride and dignity back in to his life and maintaining his or their sanity.If I needed a room painted in my house I would not hesitate on giving the job to some struggling genuine guy
Absolutely no way I would inform on someone doing this. Personally I find that action scummier than the so called fraud taking place. It's a matter for the person and the department and I have absolutely no right to get involved with it.
jamiethekid: the scammers are the ones that I quoted on marionette earlier on.would you seriously hold a grudge on a man that worked all his life now laid redundant no fault of his and struggling to pay his mortgage and food on table, basically these kidda people are only entitled to so much while the scammers know the system inside out.They have council housing while the struggling man wants to restore pride and dignity back in to his life and maintaining his or their sanity.If I needed a room painted in my house I would not hesitate on giving the job to some struggling genuine guy
Anyone shopping a man getting an odd foxer here and there to help supplement his family is the one with the real problem.
kennyfromdublin: And the government is forced to implement greater cuts to social welfare benefits that are necessary thanks to a minority of welfare recipients scamming the system when the majority of welfare recipients are unemployed and seeking work.
now there is something that might be worth quoting in the future kenny..
think madsers answer was the most honest..
MADDOG69:
I'll make one exception. Someone that crosses me. I'd report in a heartbeat. And then some..
i used to think like that
and right now someone who crossed me could be ratted on...but then i found karma is great..and i dont need to put bad karma out there for myself.. to get the same results..
so no..if we become a gang of whistleblowers and people who have a problem with u can cause u grief this way...do, even when ur innocent (cos there are hoors out there that will lets face it) then maybe a bit of shame and classlessness attached to ratting is a good thing in this case.
fifitheminx: now there is something that might be worth quoting in the future kenny..
think madsers answer was the most honest.. i used to think like that
and right now someone who crossed me could be ratted on...but then i found karma is great..and i dont need to put bad karma out there for myself.. to get the same results..
so no..if we become a gang of whistleblowers and people who have a problem with u can cause u grief this way...do, even when ur innocent (cos there are hoors out there that will lets face it) then maybe a bit of shame and classlessness attached to ratting is a good thing in this case.
Reporting someone isn't going to change the state the country is in. It isn't going to make your life any better and only make somebody elses hell. So personally I wouldn't do it and can't see the point in it. But not reporting someone doesn't mean I think what the person is doing is OK....I don't think it is OK but I do think it's not my job to find and punish people who do it.
sofarsogood74: Reporting someone isn't going to change the state the country is in. It isn't going to make your life any better and only make somebody elses hell. So personally I wouldn't do it and can't see the point in it. But not reporting someone doesn't mean I think what the person is doing is OK....I don't think it is OK but I do think it's not my job to find and punish people who do it.
exactly there are people there to do that job..
and what a job..half the reports are bogus i imagine..cos ive heard of people being ratted on when it was untrue...
fifitheminx: exactly there are people there to do that job..
and what a job..half the reports are bogus i imagine..cos ive heard of people being ratted on when it was untrue...
sick people out there ..really
Yes. I would say over half are false. People trying to make trouble for ex partners and stuff like that.
I worked in a place in the late 90's that was audited by the tax man because an Ex employee said they were committing fraud. Totally untrue but was a nightmare at the time and that is exactly what she wanted.
sofarsogood74: Yes. I would say over half are false. People trying to make trouble for ex partners and stuff like that.
I worked in a place in the late 90's that was audited by the tax man because an Ex employee said they were committing fraud. Totally untrue but was a nightmare at the time and that is exactly what she wanted.
Totally. The revenue had people there for a week. There were people who had to work with them from the company to get them the stuff they needed which meant they were not getting their work done. Absolute nightmare. But I suppose the revenue has to act if they get a specific tip.
kennyfromdublin: With an attitude like that is it any wonder why Ireland is the nation of the gombeen from the top (bankers) to the bottom down. Jamiethekid, you win the award for "Gombeen Paddy of the week" on connectingsingles.
Snowy you might end up in the gutter your self some day .l forgot the recession was caused by people not paying their tv licence and people getting an odd day of work from a relative.
and right now someone who crossed me could be ratted on...but then i found karma is great..and i dont need to put bad karma out there for myself.. to get the same results..
so no..if we become a gang of whistleblowers and people who have a problem with u can cause u grief this way...do, even when ur innocent (cos there are hoors out there that will lets face it) then maybe a bit of shame and classlessness attached to ratting is a good thing in this case.
Sometimes you have to become the bad Karma. Sometimes there's no point in waiting for somebody else to bring the pain for someone causing trouble or crossing people. Everyone forgets about the good Karma, true... but I dunno... not sure about karma really. Too many people get away with stuff to believe in Karma. I'll believe in Karma if a meteorite falls from the Heavans and flattens Kildare Street.
The things with welfare nixers and such is that if you follow the money, it isn't a complete loss to the exchequer. If someone does get a cash in had job, they do spend that money. They do consume it and they will pay the sales tax. That trickles through the economy and the government get a bit back. It's not an argument for nixers + dole... but... it's not a complete loss either.
MADDOG69: Sometimes you have to become the bad Karma. Sometimes there's no point in waiting for somebody else to bring the pain for someone causing trouble or crossing people. Everyone forgets about the good Karma, true... but I dunno... not sure about karma really. Too many people get away with stuff to believe in Karma. I'll believe in Karma if a meteorite falls from the Heavans and flattens Kildare Street.
The things with welfare nixers and such is that if you follow the money, it isn't a complete loss to the exchequer. If someone does get a cash in had job, they do spend that money. They do consume it and they will pay the sales tax. That trickles through the economy and the government get a bit back. It's not an argument for nixers + dole... but... it's not a complete loss either.
good point maddog I like the way you think outside of the box not like the majority of irish robot narrow thinkers.
MADDOG69: I'll believe in Karma if a meteorite falls from the Heavans and flattens Kildare Street.
The things with welfare nixers and such is that if you follow the money, it isn't a complete loss to the exchequer. If someone does get a cash in had job, they do spend that money. They do consume it and they will pay the sales tax. That trickles through the economy and the government get a bit back. It's not an argument for nixers + dole... but... it's not a complete loss either.
i agree with that one.. and if they jobs were to be flipped to the legal..1 in 5 would only become reality..
if some people would prefer to take only, rather than give and recieve. well no amount of laws n whistleblowers can stop them..psychopaths do tend to run through all..levels.
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And the government is forced to implement greater cuts to social welfare benefits that are necessary thanks to a minority of welfare recipients scamming the system when the majority of welfare recipients are unemployed and seeking work.