killing a unborn child,, wrong or right (42)
MADDOG69: Yep. I've used that counter argument before... specifically as it applied to people who are in a near vegetative state after an accident. Do their human rights vanish just because of their loss of concious thought? No they most certainly don't.
A thought came to mind about an issue I read a while back in relation to our aging population or senior citizens in the fact of huge resources soon to be needed in looking after them, who knows how certain powerful political action groups could push for euthanasia.modermen: A thought came to mind about an issue I read a while back in relation to our aging population or senior citizens in the fact of huge resources soon to be needed in looking after them, who knows how certain powerful political action groups could push for euthanasia.
Indeed. One act of dehumanisation leads to another.
facetowardsfront: Indeed. One act of dehumanisation leads to another.
What, like your threads and posts, dehumanising women?
"The callousness which women show about the taking of a human life says more about their gender than any thread on Feminism ever could."
So it's not really about feminism, it's about the entire gender. At least you finally had the backbone to say it.
kidatheart: The truth doesn't matter to some poeple, it's merely how you can distort things to suit your agenda.
Goebbels would be proud of that man.
Goebbels would be proud of that man.
True. I have said it before and I'll say it again. He is a sad bitter twisted man angry with women for some reason. I am guessing Mammy didn't give him enough love and his heart was shattered in the past.
But instead of moving on and getting over it and getting revenge by living a happy and full life, he chooses to wallow in his sadness, bitterness and tries to spread that feeling.
sofarsogood74: True. I have said it before and I'll say it again. He is a sad bitter twisted man angry with women for some reason. I am guessing Mammy didn't give him enough love and his heart was shattered in the past.
But instead of moving on and getting over it and getting revenge by living a happy and full life, he chooses to wallow in his sadness, bitterness and tries to spread that feeling.
But instead of moving on and getting over it and getting revenge by living a happy and full life, he chooses to wallow in his sadness, bitterness and tries to spread that feeling.
My question is, why do so many pay any attention to sad sacks like him, or Gladbag, when they're clearly not worth the effort?
Not to say that I don't take the occasional poke at someone I think is acting like abject filth, but I don't make a habit of it, nor do I dwell on it. I believe there is more to life, and let them wallow in their misery, it obviously suits them.
kidatheart: My question is, why do so many pay any attention to sad sacks like him, or Gladbag, when they're clearly not worth the effort?
Not to say that I don't take the occasional poke at someone I think is acting like abject filth, but I don't make a habit of it, nor do I dwell on it. I believe there is more to life, and let them wallow in their misery, it obviously suits them.
Not to say that I don't take the occasional poke at someone I think is acting like abject filth, but I don't make a habit of it, nor do I dwell on it. I believe there is more to life, and let them wallow in their misery, it obviously suits them.
You are right of course. I tend to get banned from his threads after my first post so I don't engage much with it.
modermen: A thought came to mind about an issue I read a while back in relation to our aging population or senior citizens in the fact of huge resources soon to be needed in looking after them, who knows how certain powerful political action groups could push for euthanasia.
a link to the Article or site would be appreciated!StormFront or some such?
Conrad73:
"Legislation on euthanasia in Switzerland permits assisted suicide.
"All forms of active euthanasia like administering lethal injection remain prohibited in Switzerland. Swiss law only allows providing means to commit suicide, and reasons for doing so must be altruistic."
"Legislation on euthanasia in Switzerland permits assisted suicide.
"All forms of active euthanasia like administering lethal injection remain prohibited in Switzerland. Swiss law only allows providing means to commit suicide, and reasons for doing so must be altruistic."
What you and the statist propaganda call 'assisted suicide' is in fact, according to Dignitas themselves, "indirect active euthanasia and passive euthanasia". Please note the euthanasia bit.
But you are correct that what you and Wikipedia call "active euthanasia", more correctly under Swiss law, "direct active euthanasia", is indeed illegal in Switzerland.
Your state does in fact allow euthanasia for other than "alturistic" reasons. Dignitas, who do the killing make a nice little profit from their dirty business before unceremoniously dumping the ashes in Lake Zurich.
Assisted Suicide is just a nice way to say euthanasia. "Assisted Termination" sounds better but that's already in use for the other type of killing.
Not something I would ever like to remotely feel that it would become a consideration even for a moment.
I was 5 months pregnant when I found out I was expecting. My own mother lamented it was too late to do anything about it. I still think very fondly of the way my father challenged her strongly when usually he will back her to the hilt with anything. Even though I was 23 wks gone I genuinely know it was not something I would have considered no matter at what stage I found out given the manner in which i fell pregnant.
However, I live in my shoes. no-one else's and as such I could not fully understand anyone elses choices.
So therefore I am pro choice.
It does not mean in any shape or form it is something I would do, nor does it mean I am pro-murder as some like to call it.
I am pro people having the right to make their own judgements.
I was 5 months pregnant when I found out I was expecting. My own mother lamented it was too late to do anything about it. I still think very fondly of the way my father challenged her strongly when usually he will back her to the hilt with anything. Even though I was 23 wks gone I genuinely know it was not something I would have considered no matter at what stage I found out given the manner in which i fell pregnant.
However, I live in my shoes. no-one else's and as such I could not fully understand anyone elses choices.
So therefore I am pro choice.
It does not mean in any shape or form it is something I would do, nor does it mean I am pro-murder as some like to call it.
I am pro people having the right to make their own judgements.
5 months gone Mar, and ya only realised then? None of my business, but was there not any hints, like? 
aye bate all them sprogs to death with a shovel
Mariannette: actually if truth be known then the guy turned his attention to a floor staff member he was moved within days... I was his peer so no support. I actually got reprimanded since i told someone i knew in the store they moved him to what he had done to me.
I would have raised hell and just went straight to the Equality Tribunal. They're only WAITING and biting at the bit to fund a case like that.
MADDOG69: I would have raised hell and just went straight to the Equality Tribunal. They're only WAITING and biting at the bit to fund a case like that.
should have and wish I had but its too late now.
Looks like the baby killers got their way, yer wan from Labour Ivana Balack must be happy.
Mariannette: Not something I would ever like to remotely feel that it would become a consideration even for a moment.
I was 5 months pregnant when I found out I was expecting. My own mother lamented it was too late to do anything about it. I still think very fondly of the way my father challenged her strongly when usually he will back her to the hilt with anything. Even though I was 23 wks gone I genuinely know it was not something I would have considered no matter at what stage I found out given the manner in which i fell pregnant.
However, I live in my shoes. no-one else's and as such I could not fully understand anyone elses choices.
So therefore I am pro choice.
It does not mean in any shape or form it is something I would do, nor does it mean I am pro-murder as some like to call it.
I am pro people having the right to make their own judgements.
I was 5 months pregnant when I found out I was expecting. My own mother lamented it was too late to do anything about it. I still think very fondly of the way my father challenged her strongly when usually he will back her to the hilt with anything. Even though I was 23 wks gone I genuinely know it was not something I would have considered no matter at what stage I found out given the manner in which i fell pregnant.
However, I live in my shoes. no-one else's and as such I could not fully understand anyone elses choices.
So therefore I am pro choice.
It does not mean in any shape or form it is something I would do, nor does it mean I am pro-murder as some like to call it.
I am pro people having the right to make their own judgements.
You see thats part of what gets me. If someone has a child and then decides they made a mistake would it be up to them whether or not to kill the child? No one has ever explained to me, in a way they makes sense, why killing a child after its born is different from killing it before its born.
would u like to be killed in your mammys womb , the chance of life wiped off
pint...
MADDOG69: That's why I could never hook up with a pro choice/death woman
I'm not sure about the hooking up bit. My criteria for mating does not include a political or religious questionnaire. If on the other hand you mean something more permanent then I agree. I think the only chance of long term happiness a young lad could have is with a woman who believes in something greater than herself and her intellect. Some of those pro-life women outside the Dail the other night were fine. You should get yourself down there the next time they are having a protest and start taking phone numbers.
modermen: I read a while back in relation to our aging population or senior citizens in the fact of huge resources soon to be needed in looking after them, who knows how certain powerful political action groups could push for euthanasia
Conrad73: a link to the Article or site would be appreciated
The Brits were at it with old people. They trained the nursing staff to be "uncaring, rushed and ignorant", to withold fluids, medications and other techniques for speeding up dying, in order to save money. They called it The Liverpool Care Pathway but is has been exposed and now temporarily abandoned while they reinvent it as something else.
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An unborn child? Wrong. But when does a fetus become a child? That is the zillion dollar question.
A lot of women experience problems in their first 3 months of pregnancy and the pregnancy ends. This is obviously and nightmare very hard for the parents. But if society considered the fetus at that stage a child then why no funeral? Why no death certificate and all the other things that come with the death of a person?
It's a very leading question really and "child" is a word used a lot in the anti woman's choice campaign. But the fact is the fetus is not a child up to a certain number of weeks.