killing a unborn child,, wrong or right (42)

Jul 6, 2013 1:38 PM CST killing a unborn child,, wrong or right
wrong or right
Jul 6, 2013 1:41 PM CST killing a unborn child,, wrong or right
Fraya
FrayaFrayaCork, Ireland1 Threads 3,762 Posts
pedro27: wrong or right


You cant be serious. Its not a school night...cant you go back to the aul wans Wants and Needs?
Jul 6, 2013 1:48 PM CST killing a unborn child,, wrong or right
Fraya: You cant be serious. Its not a school night...cant you go back to the aul wans Wants and Needs?


mature means 'a 20-40 woman, answer the qusetion
Jul 6, 2013 1:51 PM CST killing a unborn child,, wrong or right
Fraya
FrayaFrayaCork, Ireland1 Threads 3,762 Posts
pedro27: mature means 'a 20-40 woman, answer the qusetion


I'm extra mature then, like a really smelly cheese laugh

Nah man, I dont get involved in the heavy stuff. I'll leave you to it.
Jul 6, 2013 2:03 PM CST killing a unborn child,, wrong or right
facetowardsfront
facetowardsfrontfacetowardsfrontCork, Ireland42 Threads 1 Polls 2,921 Posts
Fraya: I'm extra mature then, like a really smelly cheese

Nah man, I dont get involved in the heavy stuff. I'll leave you to it.


Ah Mme Camembert you look delicious tonight. Would you like to spread yourself on a cracker ? laugh
Jul 6, 2013 2:47 PM CST killing a unborn child,, wrong or right
pedro27: wrong or right


Thats a very black and white thing to say..there is no wrong or right..It all depends on the circumstanceireland
Jul 6, 2013 3:16 PM CST killing a unborn child,, wrong or right
WESTERNSTAR1
WESTERNSTAR1WESTERNSTAR1†_ °_†, Cork Ireland8 Threads 5 Polls 3,490 Posts
pedro27: wrong or right
that would be an ecumenical matter laugh
Jul 6, 2013 3:22 PM CST killing a unborn child,, wrong or right
Fraya
FrayaFrayaCork, Ireland1 Threads 3,762 Posts
WESTERNSTAR1: that would be an ecumenical matter


If everything was an ecumenical matter we'd all be standing in line like good little girls and boys waiting to told how to think grin
Jul 6, 2013 3:25 PM CST killing a unborn child,, wrong or right
WESTERNSTAR1
WESTERNSTAR1WESTERNSTAR1†_ °_†, Cork Ireland8 Threads 5 Polls 3,490 Posts
Fraya: If everything was an ecumenical matter we'd all be standing in line like good little girls and boys waiting to told how to think
'if' I was a sailor I would sail you out to sea !
Jul 6, 2013 3:30 PM CST killing a unborn child,, wrong or right
MarsMan
MarsManMarsManBobbing along, Cork Ireland29 Threads 8 Polls 981 Posts
Like many things in this life, any point of view is based on where you are standing to look at it from.
Jul 6, 2013 3:37 PM CST killing a unborn child,, wrong or right
Fraya
FrayaFrayaCork, Ireland1 Threads 3,762 Posts
WESTERNSTAR1: 'if' I was a sailor I would sail you out to sea !


Then what would you do? Throw me over board? blues I'd pull you in with me laugh
Jul 6, 2013 3:41 PM CST killing a unborn child,, wrong or right
Fraya
FrayaFrayaCork, Ireland1 Threads 3,762 Posts
MarsMan: Like many things in this life, any point of view is based on where you are standing to look at it from.


and yet more common sense...Not regulation issue soldier, off with your head laugh
Jul 6, 2013 7:15 PM CST killing a unborn child,, wrong or right
WESTERNSTAR1
WESTERNSTAR1WESTERNSTAR1†_ °_†, Cork Ireland8 Threads 5 Polls 3,490 Posts
Fraya: Then what would you do? Throw me over board? I'd pull you in with me
no,i wouldn't do that ! I would order you to jump overboard and if u refused well that would be mutiny and for that u'd walk the plank ! so either way your going 2 get wet applause laugh
Jul 7, 2013 1:24 AM CST killing a unborn child,, wrong or right
brad70
brad70brad70dublin, Dublin Ireland15 Threads 80 Posts
pedro27: wrong or right
, well i think if a woman wants to do this why would she need help from some paper work ? and then there's the costs , she would be better off having the child and then cutting its throat herself instead of getting someone else to do it , i suppose in a perfect world she would let the kid became old enough so she could explain to it why it must be put to deat,
Jul 7, 2013 3:11 AM CST killing a unborn child,, wrong or right
pedro27: wrong or right
wrong. Murderers. ireland
Jul 7, 2013 3:26 AM CST killing a unborn child,, wrong or right
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
Depends......

























It could be the spawn of Satan.devil


laugh



uh oh
Jul 7, 2013 10:06 AM CST killing a unborn child,, wrong or right
GalwayGuy35
GalwayGuy35GalwayGuy35galway, Galway Ireland25 Threads 1,537 Posts
Wrong
Jul 7, 2013 3:44 PM CST killing a unborn child,, wrong or right
facetowardsfront
facetowardsfrontfacetowardsfrontCork, Ireland42 Threads 1 Polls 2,921 Posts
Some people say that a fetus has no rights over the woman carrying it because it is a parasite ("just a clump of cells that cannot live outside of it's host"). But the parents actively gave life to it without it's consent so it's not a parasite. The mother especially, because of the range of birth control available, cannot say, except in the most exceptional of circumstances, that a parasite trespassed into her body.

Some argue that since the 'clump of cells' as they call the foetus is not sentient until a certain stage of late development, that it is not a person and therefore does not deserve the innate natural right to not be aggressed against, i.e. not to be killed by violence. But if the right not to be aggressed against depended on sentience then how could we argue for animal rights or for the rights of those who lack sentience due to some condition like autism? Clearly the sentience argument does not hold unless they also agree that all 'untermensch' should be murdered, if they are of an inconvenience.

So is that it? Are healthy foetuses just the thin end of the wedge the State has planned? Will it be the mentally and physically challenged next? Then the elderly? Then those who are 'not producing enough' as George Bernard Shaw demanded?
Jul 7, 2013 3:53 PM CST killing a unborn child,, wrong or right
billyj1
billyj1billyj1Sydney, New South Wales Australia12 Threads 2 Polls 801 Posts
pedro27: wrong or right


wrong...
Jul 7, 2013 3:59 PM CST killing a unborn child,, wrong or right
facetowardsfront: But if the right not to be aggressed against depended on sentience then how could we argue for animal rights or for the rights of those who lack sentience due to some condition like autism? Clearly the sentience argument does not hold unless they also agree that all 'untermensch' should be murdered, if they are of an inconvenience.

Yep. I've used that counter argument before... specifically as it applied to people who are in a near vegetative state after an accident. Do their human rights vanish just because of their loss of concious thought? No they most certainly don't.
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