N.C.T (23)

Jul 31, 2013 12:23 PM CST N.C.T
kit is in for a nct tommorow
Jul 31, 2013 1:00 PM CST N.C.T
Brandenburger
BrandenburgerBrandenburgerCounty Clare..., Clare Ireland28 Threads 3 Polls 257 Posts
pedro27: i put stuff in the petrol todAY she is 00, her milage is 94,000
it was 10euro for the emission cleaner


good man, c'mere, see all your fluid levels are good, seatbelts accessable, lights working and for goodness sake get the headlights focus checked and adjusted if need be...
ya dont want the car going on the 'runway' a second time, thats where they get you for a retest fee, outside stuff is free...
ok lad, i gotta bail out, its work time for the musically inclined...
good luck tomorrow, let us know how ya got on...

cheers
Jul 31, 2013 1:04 PM CST N.C.T
Brandenburger: good man, c'mere, see all your fluid levels are good, seatbelts accessable, lights working and for goodness sake get the headlights focus checked and adjusted if need be...
ya dont want the car going on the 'runway' a second time, thats where they get you for a retest fee, outside stuff is free...
ok lad, i gotta bail out, its work time for the musically inclined...
good luck tomorrow, let us know how ya got on...


yeah thanks i will do, hopefully she passes first time without anything serious , but they are gone strict
Jul 31, 2013 1:05 PM CST N.C.T
sexydivabella
sexydivabellasexydivabellaDrogheda, Dublin Ireland44 Threads 4 Polls 5,978 Posts
Brandenburger: good man, c'mere, see all your fluid levels are good, seatbelts accessable, lights working and for goodness sake get the headlights focus checked and adjusted if need be...
ya dont want the car going on the 'runway' a second time, thats where they get you for a retest fee, outside stuff is free...
ok lad, i gotta bail out, its work time for the musically inclined...
good luck tomorrow, let us know how ya got on...


don't worry about him and his sports car laugh
my poor baby is over reving....what do you think might be wrong blues
Jul 31, 2013 4:19 PM CST N.C.T
jen1212
jen1212jen1212galway, Galway Ireland5 Threads 193 Posts
good luck :)
booked my baby in for next week :(
Aug 1, 2013 4:55 PM CST N.C.T
facetowardsfront
facetowardsfrontfacetowardsfrontCork, Ireland42 Threads 1 Polls 2,921 Posts
pedro27: kit is in for a nct tommorow


So, how did you get on?
Aug 1, 2013 5:27 PM CST N.C.T
Brandenburger: pm me the car and details, and ill get back to ya, new car tech runs off various sensors dotted around the engine, if its getting a 'mixed message' it can be down to that, but im only speculating till i know more...but happy to advise all the same....

Leak in the CAT or somewhere along the exhaust can cause mixtures issues and then over revving.
Aug 1, 2013 5:43 PM CST N.C.T
facetowardsfront
facetowardsfrontfacetowardsfrontCork, Ireland42 Threads 1 Polls 2,921 Posts
MADDOG69: Leak in the CAT or somewhere along the exhaust can cause mixtures issues and then over revving.


So would that be a leak in Kit's Cat or a break?

Have a break, have a Kit Cat!
Aug 1, 2013 6:10 PM CST N.C.T
Glatlol
GlatlolGlatlolDublin, Ireland2 Threads 5,358 Posts
facetowardsfront: So, how did you get on?


Well if it passed he has probably been celebrating with a few cans, and if it failed he doesnt want to come on and admit it and is having a few cans.
Aug 2, 2013 3:55 AM CST N.C.T
Brandenburger
BrandenburgerBrandenburgerCounty Clare..., Clare Ireland28 Threads 3 Polls 257 Posts
MADDOG69: Leak in the CAT or somewhere along the exhaust can cause mixtures issues and then over revving.


a leak in the cat will indeed cause mixture issues, but it will effect lambda mainly, and c/o secondly...
now it does for me to say car repairs are not an exact science, and you can look around for exceptions that break the rule, and they will be there, but the above tennant 'generally' holds true...

over-revving on cars with ecu / sensor goverened engines can most often be traced to temp sensor and map sensor issues, and by that i mean sensor, wiring (feed and return) or ecu and/or throttle body and stepper faults, and very occasionally, water in upc, as in megane, but im being type specific, a toyota, a vw or a ford can have their own querks and peculiarities...

over-revving on cars with cable accelerators (as opposed to fbw) and machanical throttle flaps (as opposed to steppers) can have freyed cables, and physical obstructions causing the problem...
though it is worth remembering cars as old as the midd to late 80s were incorperating biothermal spring and electro condutive technologies for engine temp regulation, and hence idle speed, (ford vv carbs with auto-choke are a good example), so again, there can be further checks required

but as i say, there are plenty of curve balls in repair and diagnosis, and todays cars now rely on eobd for after market service, and in house programmes for accurate assesement of faults within dealerships...the old ways are just that im afraid, old and gone...

and id better close with, i dont know it all, but i have spent most of my working life fixing cars, vans and commercials , and all of the above is based on practical experience...
Aug 2, 2013 5:45 AM CST N.C.T
facetowardsfront: So, how did you get on?


failed on a imbalance in the breaks im getting it fixed
Aug 2, 2013 11:01 AM CST N.C.T
pedro27: failed on a imbalance in the breaks im getting it fixed


what you man by imbalance in brakes? just needs new discs and pads? ireland
Aug 2, 2013 11:37 AM CST N.C.T
ab, they didnt do the emission test cos they said it was to smokey, my mechanic said he can get out of it, can he?
Aug 2, 2013 11:57 AM CST N.C.T
Brandenburger: would need more info:

whats the car, engine size, milage and petrol or diesel?
did it smoke before you put the additive in?
what additive did you use and how much? (brand)...
did you follow the directions of use?
was there enough fuel in the car when you used the additive?
what colour is the smoke coming out? (more relevant for diesel)...

generally (caviat) black smoke = oil burning / grey smoke = rich mixture / white(ish) smoke = water or condensation...

fuel improvers dont tend to induce smoking in engines in my experience...

jeysus, you didn't put it in with the oil did you?.....


2000 toyota celica, petrol. 1.8
reves over 3 black smoke, but i did top it up on oil the day before too, no i put it in the petrol tank, also my mechanic said what u said i should of drove it hard in 3rd gear
Aug 2, 2013 12:00 PM CST N.C.T
Brandenburger: would need more info:

whats the car, engine size, milage and petrol or diesel?
did it smoke before you put the additive in?
what additive did you use and how much? (brand)...
did you follow the directions of use?
was there enough fuel in the car when you used the additive?
what colour is the smoke coming out? (more relevant for diesel)...

generally (caviat) black smoke = oil burning / grey smoke = rich mixture / white(ish) smoke = water or condensation...

fuel improvers dont tend to induce smoking in engines in my experience...

jeysus, you didn't put it in with the oil did you?.....


there was only 10 euro petrol in the car when i put the stuff in 24 hours before the test, also it has 95,000 kilmoteres on the clock
Aug 2, 2013 12:03 PM CST N.C.T
also i never noticed smoke before
Aug 2, 2013 12:41 PM CST N.C.T
Brandenburger
BrandenburgerBrandenburgerCounty Clare..., Clare Ireland28 Threads 3 Polls 257 Posts
pedro27: 2000 toyota celica, petrol. 1.8
reves over 3 black smoke, but i did top it up on oil the day before too, no i put it in the petrol tank, also my mechanic said what u said i should of drove it hard in 3rd gear


sorry lad, dont understand the bit in red,

if you didnt overfill it with oil, id say two things, fuel and additive ratio was to low, but still, the additive is spirit based, so not likely to be the root cause, but if i read you right that your getting smoke at 3000 rpm, (probbo on acceleration), its burning oil either through valve stem oil seals or rings, but considering its low milage and your not complaining of a drop in power or 'lumpy tickover', im gonna stick my neck out and go with seals....

sometimes faults occour without any notice and we attribute it to something we or somebody else have/has done...

anyways, if you have a trustworthy mechanic, thats half the battle won...
Aug 2, 2013 12:58 PM CST N.C.T
Brandenburger: sorry lad, dont understand the bit in red,

if you didnt overfill it with oil, id say two things, fuel and additive ratio was to low, but still, the additive is spirit based, so not likely to be the root cause, but if i read you right that your getting smoke at 3000 rpm, (probbo on acceleration), its burning oil either through valve stem oil seals or rings, but considering its low milage and your not complaining of a drop in power or 'lumpy tickover', im gonna stick my neck out and go with seals....

sometimes faults occour without any notice and we attribute it to something we or somebody else have/has done...

anyways, if you have a trustworthy mechanic, thats half the battle won...

thanks a million for the information, the mechanic is very good and trustworthy, in fact he told me its noting to worry about.
Aug 2, 2013 12:59 PM CST N.C.T
Brandenburger: sorry lad, dont understand the bit in red,

if you didnt overfill it with oil, id say two things, fuel and additive ratio was to low, but still, the additive is spirit based, so not likely to be the root cause, but if i read you right that your getting smoke at 3000 rpm, (probbo on acceleration), its burning oil either through valve stem oil seals or rings, but considering its low milage and your not complaining of a drop in power or 'lumpy tickover', im gonna stick my neck out and go with seals....

sometimes faults occour without any notice and we attribute it to something we or somebody else have/has done...

anyways, if you have a trustworthy mechanic, thats half the battle won...


where are the seals? is it expensive to fix?
Aug 2, 2013 1:21 PM CST N.C.T
Brandenburger
BrandenburgerBrandenburgerCounty Clare..., Clare Ireland28 Threads 3 Polls 257 Posts
pedro27: where are the seals? is it expensive to fix?


before you pour money into the car, have your man gas test it, smoke aside, give the engine a good warming up, and see what the emissions and lambda are doing...

the 'valve stem oil seals' are in the cylinder head, its a costly job and worth avoiding unless you are set on keeping the car for a very long time...
it can be done with the 'head' in place, but special tools are needed (which i have would you believe), but most often the head comes off and gets stripped right down, all up cost, in and around 400 to 500 bucks, and thats a conservative estimate, this is labour intensive work, and most mechanics would advise walk away from such expense...

if the emissions are ok, do the rest of the work and just give it a good blasting before the retest...

ok, thats yer lot, good luck lad....
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