justjim63port macquarie, New South Wales Australia2,592 posts
serene56: Jim my thoughts are that being aware of the dramatic increase of obese people in the western world is not a case of discrimination?
And not being attracted to them isn't either? It's called 'choice'.
And no, not all overweight people are subject to factors outside their control, far from it.
Sorry Serene, that wasn't meant to be directed at you, far from it! Just a few posts from others that were a bit nasty towards overweight people, sorry if I caused any offence.
justjim63: Sorry Serene, that wasn't meant to be directed at you, far from it! Just a few posts from others that were a bit nasty towards overweight people, sorry if I caused any offence.
I didn't think it was directed at me Jim
But I honestly think we need to recognize the situation
People are often sucked in by media and marketing and while the myriad companies involved are making a buck (fortune), obesity will be an industry that is both supported and capitalized on.
justjim63port macquarie, New South Wales Australia2,592 posts
serene56: I didn't think it was directed at me Jim
But I honestly think we need to recognize the situation
People are often sucked in by media and marketing and while the myriad companies involved are making a buck (fortune), obesity will be an industry that is both supported and capitalized on.
Absolutely agree, I think there needs to be some form of government regulation or standardisation in regards to the fast food industry, for example, most adds for fast food on tv are set to coincide with the times that children get out of school, dinner times etc, this needs to be approached in the same manner as the anti smoking campaigns otherwise we'll have another massive health crisis to deal with in the future. Maybe it's already here?
janie1305: Why not? I'm old enough to be your mum, not sure about gran! It wasn't meant to be condescendng.
I too know all about shape and size, perhaps more than you. I may have had more partners of differing age groups and sizes than you, shocking however that may seem!
justjim63: Well done on the lifestyle change! I've always been pretty fit, but after I got out of the army I became a lot less active and drank and ate all the wrong things, Just over a year ago I glanced in a mirror as I was getting out of the shower and saw what I had done to myself. I decided there and then to do something about it. I started walking, graduated to running and ate decent meals and drank plenty of water, I cut out sugar completely and most carbs, a year later and I weigh 30kg's less, never felt better.
That's actually a very common thing also. When guys come back from deployment and get out, they put on a lot.
Oct 20, 2013 2:16 AM CST do any guys like plus size women anymore
LadyDizJohannesburg, Gauteng South Africa1,320 Posts
LadyDizJohannesburg, Gauteng South Africa1,320 posts
janie1305: I'm going to bed , but I just want to say that most of you lot are so pretentious and unforgiving. Good grief, you are all on a bloody dating site so that says something doesn't it? My two kids in their thirties have never had the need to be on a dating site so you young ones I really cannot take seriously here. I too dislike being here and feel rather embarrassed about it which is why I go for months sometimes years without logging in. Nobody other than my mother, my closest friend and mybdaughter know I belong to a dating site, and they all think I'm crazy for being here!
However, the point is that a very young woman posts a thread here and you all, or most of you, don't give any help other than advice to lose weight (from some who aren't super skinny either!) and criticism for being overweight.
Don't you know that some of you are flirting with alcoholics and druggies here? I can see lots of them, mal e and female. I've been here a long long time! Someone carrying a bit of excess weight is far less worrying for me and deserves a little slack.
Reading the posts on this thread this morning, without the obvious heightened emotions that led to them, I cannot help but express my dismay at seeing this particular post. An inability to set aside emotion when discussing an emotive topic such as this one will lead to making observations and accusations which are unjustified, personalised and, frankly, patronising, condescending and unacceptable. I believe a few apologies to some of the posters on this thread would be appropriate.
Perceptions of physical beauty, slimness and plus size differ not only from country to country, culture to culture but also from individual to individual. Research to justify any position taken by the posters can easily be found. Obesity does constitute a health risk, whether or not the obese person is able to do something about it or not. Appearance does matter when it comes to first impressions, as was clearly indicated on an earlier thread about beauty vs plainness influencing success, and individuals will have particular preferences that others find offensive, as for example, I find offensive that some will reject others on the basis of their skin colour. We are human, and therefore by definition fallible, and diverse in opinion.
Sensitivity to the OP, and indeed, to anyone who posts, should be shown. To indicate one's concern for someone who is plus-sized but to then in the same thread denigrate those who may or may not be addicted to various substances for whatever reasons (some of which may well be horrific traumatic experiences, I have no doubt) is contradictory to say the least. And, to imply, however indirectly, that CS members should be ashamed of being on this, or any other site, is again, insensitive to everyone on CS and uncalled for.
The lack of respect in this thread is atrocious. Don't get me wrong I ain't no angel, but some people went to far here.
Maddog calling Janie "Granny", same as when he kept calling Steffi "Habibi" in another thread, it's disturbing, always trying to get inside people's heads. Provoke them and provoke them until they react, and when they do, say they are either "revealing a part of themslves" or using the phrase: "it says more about you"
anilag: Please, be politically correct, and never say what you see..........Se and older lady, say : Hello young lady " unless she is your real grandma..
You can always state ur opinion, but do it with some tact.
Oct 20, 2013 2:45 AM CST do any guys like plus size women anymore
ChochetaBetween somewhere and nowhere, Gauteng South Africa1,019 Posts
ChochetaBetween somewhere and nowhere, Gauteng South Africa1,019 posts
LadyDiz: Reading the posts on this thread this morning, without the obvious heightened emotions that led to them, I cannot help but express my dismay at seeing this particular post. An inability to set aside emotion when discussing an emotive topic such as this one will lead to making observations and accusations which are unjustified, personalised and, frankly, patronising, condescending and unacceptable. I believe a few apologies to some of the posters on this thread would be appropriate.
Perceptions of physical beauty, slimness and plus size differ not only from country to country, culture to culture but also from individual to individual. Research to justify any position taken by the posters can easily be found. Obesity does constitute a health risk, whether or not the obese person is able to do something about it or not. Appearance does matter when it comes to first impressions, as was clearly indicated on an earlier thread about beauty vs plainness influencing success, and individuals will have particular preferences that others find offensive, as for example, I find offensive that some will reject others on the basis of their skin colour. We are human, and therefore by definition fallible, and diverse in opinion.
Sensitivity to the OP, and indeed, to anyone who posts, should be shown. To indicate one's concern for someone who is plus-sized but to then in the same thread denigrate those who may or may not be addicted to various substances for whatever reasons (some of which may well be horrific traumatic experiences, I have no doubt) is contradictory to say the least. And, to imply, however indirectly, that CS members should be ashamed of being on this, or any other site, is again, insensitive to everyone on CS and uncalled for.
TorlessChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand1,499 posts
LadyDiz: Reading the posts on this thread this morning, without the obvious heightened emotions that led to them, I cannot help but express my dismay at seeing this particular post. An inability to set aside emotion when discussing an emotive topic such as this one will lead to making observations and accusations which are unjustified, personalised and, frankly, patronising, condescending and unacceptable. I believe a few apologies to some of the posters on this thread would be appropriate.
Perceptions of physical beauty, slimness and plus size differ not only from country to country, culture to culture but also from individual to individual. Research to justify any position taken by the posters can easily be found. Obesity does constitute a health risk, whether or not the obese person is able to do something about it or not. Appearance does matter when it comes to first impressions, as was clearly indicated on an earlier thread about beauty vs plainness influencing success, and individuals will have particular preferences that others find offensive, as for example, I find offensive that some will reject others on the basis of their skin colour. We are human, and therefore by definition fallible, and diverse in opinion.
Sensitivity to the OP, and indeed, to anyone who posts, should be shown. To indicate one's concern for someone who is plus-sized but to then in the same thread denigrate those who may or may not be addicted to various substances for whatever reasons (some of which may well be horrific traumatic experiences, I have no doubt) is contradictory to say the least. And, to imply, however indirectly, that CS members should be ashamed of being on this, or any other site, is again, insensitive to everyone on CS and uncalled for.
LadyDiz: Yes, but that is generally when there exists some affection between the two. In other instances its used with the intention to patronise and belittle.
LadyDiz: Yes, but that is generally when there exists some affection between the two. In other instances its used with the intention to patronise and belittle.
LadyDiz: Yes, but that is generally when there exists some affection between the two. In other instances its used with the intention to patronise and belittle.
My Biological Dad and Mom occasionally call me Son, and 1 of my guardians in addition. And some old guys on the street. Anyone else calls me Son that's talking down and is inherently ageist.
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And not being attracted to them isn't either? It's called 'choice'.
And no, not all overweight people are subject to factors outside their control, far from it.
Sorry Serene, that wasn't meant to be directed at you, far from it! Just a few posts from others that were a bit nasty towards overweight people, sorry if I caused any offence.