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Mar 9, 2014 10:23 AM CST Should Women pilot Jumbos?
unlaoised
unlaoisedunlaoisedTwilight zone, Wicklow Ireland34 Threads 12,152 Posts
lifeisadream: .

There is a gender difference on how stress affect the persons you are right on that. However there is also a gender difference in "response" to stress and you might be surprised of it if you check some journals on this.

How would you know which gender the captain for your flight is?
I doubt very much you can get that info before getting into the plane. Until you are sitting and all buckled up and the plane is already flying then the captain says:

Good morning, or evening…. I am your captain Miss Rose Cutie and we will flying at 30,000 feet and the time of your flight will be 5:45 hr, relax I am woman and I can handle big things.

So by the time you know that your captain could be a woman, what are you going to do???

Ask for the plane to return?

Jump?
For the brain surgery the sooner the better and there should not be a problem choosing a Doctor-man for this.

Good luck with that.


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Mar 9, 2014 10:29 AM CST Should Women pilot Jumbos?
2intrigued
2intrigued2intriguedMississauga, Ontario Canada11 Threads 18,576 Posts
I haven't piloted a JUMBO in ages...not sure it'll even fit anymore. hmmm giggle
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Mar 9, 2014 10:37 AM CST Should Women pilot Jumbos?
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
2intrigued: I haven't piloted a JUMBO in ages...not sure it'll even fit anymore.



Perhaps I can offer you my fit all to try??grin grin grin grin
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Mar 9, 2014 10:38 AM CST Should Women pilot Jumbos?
2intrigued
2intrigued2intriguedMississauga, Ontario Canada11 Threads 18,576 Posts
tomcatwarne: Perhaps I can offer you my fit all to try??


Does it come with batteries? grin rolling on the floor laughing
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Mar 9, 2014 10:39 AM CST Should Women pilot Jumbos?
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
2intrigued: Does it come with batteries?


It's got it's own generatoryay
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Mar 9, 2014 10:41 AM CST Should Women pilot Jumbos?
2intrigued
2intrigued2intriguedMississauga, Ontario Canada11 Threads 18,576 Posts
tomcatwarne: It's got it's own generator


Is it powered with a crank? sigh rolling on the floor laughing
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Mar 9, 2014 10:43 AM CST Should Women pilot Jumbos?
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
2intrigued: Is it powered with a crank?



No it's turbo chargedgrin
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Mar 9, 2014 10:59 AM CST Should Women pilot Jumbos?
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
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Mar 9, 2014 11:16 AM CST Should Women pilot Jumbos?
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
March 8, 1910 Raymonde de Laroche of France became the first woman in the world to earn a pilot license. That same year, Marthe Niel of France, Marie Marvingt of France and Helene Dutrieux of Belgium also earned theirs.

On September 16, 1910, Bessica Medlar Raiche soloed in the airplane she and her husband Francois Raiche built together at their home in Mineola, NY. The Aeronautical Society of America would accredit her as first woman aviator in America.



Jump ahead to the year 2010 and there are more firsts for women pilots. Ari Fuji of Japan becames the first female captain of a major Japanese commercial airliner. Jane Planchon and Cathy Arazo of France flew their first fire season at the commands of Super Scoopers. Two women, Maryse Carmichael of Canada and Virginie Guyot of France, become the leaders of their respective national military aerobatic teams, the Snowbirds and the Patrouille de France. Sara Ferrero of the United States is getting ready to become the Alabama Air National Guard's first female fighter pilot.

But wait a minute. It has now been 100 years since the first woman earned her pilot license. So, why are we still celebrating women pilots' firsts?

Could it be our sheer numbers, or rather lack thereof? When Raymonde de Laroche earned her pilot license in 1910, number 36, she represented about three percent of the pilot population at that time. One hundred years later, women still only constitute about 6% of the pilot population in most western countries. With so few women pilots, it is not difficult to understand why firsts are still being made.

But why are there so few women flying?

Like I did, I bet that many little girls dream about flying like a bird. But, I would also bet that most do not dream of growing up to do a job that requires them to dress in men's clothing complete with a straight-cut jacket, a cap designed to enhance male facial traits and a black tie. Given a choice, I suspect most little boys would not dream of doing a job that required them to wear women's clothing on a daily basis either.

With nearly 6,000 women holding an Airline Transport Pilot license in the United States alone, I find it curious to see that the airline industry and many top flight-training academies still require women to conform to this male-centric dress code. It seems as if the industry's first step in welcoming women to aviation is to attempt to take the woman out of the future woman pilot.

And why, when women constitute more than half of the total U.S. population, hold 60% of the wealth and have veto power over 95% of family purchases, is there virtually no aviation industry advertising directed at female consumers?

When women are represented, they are usually depicted as a bystander or a passenger. I recently viewed the marketing video of one of most respected aviation academies in the world and noticed that in their four-minute video, there was only one quick shot of a woman pilot and she never talked. Whether the omission was deliberate or not, today's aviation industry message is clear; women's role in aviation is negligible.

Let's take a look at how women are treated in another traditionally male sector, the motorcycle industry. Did you know that Harley Davidson reserves an entire section of their Web site to women riders with subsections such as riding courses, mentoring, the right bike, and, oh yes, riding gear and apparel? Were you aware that there is also a Women Riders' Month? It is actually just good business practice. From 2003 to 2008, Harley Davidson saw a whopping 29 percent increase in the number of female motorcycle owners.

As a flight instructor, I find many female students approach flight training as something they should not really be doing in the first place. As a result, they often need more initial encouragement to take charge than most male students do. How can we change the way women think about themselves and their role in this exciting industry?
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Mar 9, 2014 11:30 AM CST Should Women pilot Jumbos?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
tomcatwarne: March 8, 1910 Raymonde de Laroche of France became the first woman in the world to earn a pilot license. That same year, Marthe Niel of France, Marie Marvingt of France and Helene Dutrieux of Belgium also earned theirs.

On September 16, 1910, Bessica Medlar Raiche soloed in the airplane

But wait a minute. It has now been 100 years since the first woman earned her pilot license. So, why are we still celebrating women pilots' firsts?

Could it be our sheer numbers, or rather lack thereof? When Raymonde de Laroche earned her pilot license in 1910, number 36, she represented about three percent of the pilot population at that time. One hundred years later, women still only constitute about 6% of the pilot population in most western countries. With so few women pilots, it is not difficult to understand why firsts are still being made.

But why are there so few women flying?

Like I did, I bet that many little girls dream about flying like a bird. But, I would also bet that most do not dream of growing up to do a job that requires them to dress in men's clothing complete with a straight-cut jacket, a cap designed to enhance male facial traits and a black tie. Given a choice, I suspect most little boys would not dream of doing a job that required them to wear women's clothing on a daily basis either.

With nearly 6,000 women holding an Airline Transport Pilot license in the United States alone, I find it curious to see that the airline industry and many top flight-training academies still require women to conform to this male-centric dress code. It seems as if the industry's first step in welcoming women to aviation is to attempt to take the woman out of the future woman pilot.

And why, when women constitute more than half of the total U.S. population, hold 60% of the wealth and have veto power over 95% of family purchases, is there virtually no aviation industry advertising directed at female consumers?

When women are represented, they are usually depicted as a bystander or a passenger. I recently viewed the marketing video of one of most respected aviation academies in the world and noticed that in their four-minute video, there was only one quick shot of a woman pilot and she never talked. Whether the omission was deliberate or not, today's aviation industry message is clear; women's role in aviation is negligible.

Let's take a look at how women are treated in another traditionally male sector, the motorcycle industry. Did you know that Harley Davidson reserves an entire section of their Web site to women riders with subsections such as riding courses, mentoring, the right bike, and, oh yes, riding gear and apparel? Were you aware that there is also a Women Riders' Month? It is actually just good business practice. From 2003 to 2008, Harley Davidson saw a whopping 29 percent increase in the number of female motorcycle owners.

As a flight instructor, I find many female students approach flight training as something they should not really be doing in the first place. As a result, they often need more initial encouragement to take charge than most male students do. How can we change the way women think about themselves and their role in this exciting industry?



As always you forgot to place the reference.
Why So Few Women Pilots?



Trying to look the text is yours?

Big fraud.
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Mar 10, 2014 3:59 AM CST Should Women pilot Jumbos?
check_mate
check_matecheck_mateLondon, Greater London, England UK42 Threads 12 Polls 968 Posts
@Tom. My answer is YES if they wish to and they only need a few school level qualifications so nothing to stop them is there? Similarly, if they want to earn up to £4,000 a night stripping they can do that too. In fact they can do whatever they aspire to through work and determination.
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Mar 10, 2014 4:24 AM CST Should Women pilot Jumbos?
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
lifeisadream: .

There is a gender difference on how stress affect the persons you are right on that. However there is also a gender difference in "response" to stress and you might be surprised of it if you check some journals on this.

How would you know which gender the captain for your flight is?
I doubt very much you can get that info before getting into the plane. Until you are sitting and all buckled up and the plane is already flying then the captain says:

Good morning, or evening…. I am your captain Miss Rose Cutie and we will flying at 30,000 feet and the time of your flight will be 5:45 hr, relax I am woman and I can handle big things.

So by the time you know that your captain could be a woman, what are you going to do???

Ask for the plane to return?

Jump?
For the brain surgery the sooner the better and there should not be a problem choosing a Doctor-man for this.

Good luck with that.

giggle

PS. Thank you for the pointer in terms of gender differences in stress. Very interesting. tip hat
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Mar 10, 2014 4:28 AM CST Should Women pilot Jumbos?
check_mate
check_matecheck_mateLondon, Greater London, England UK42 Threads 12 Polls 968 Posts
jac379: PS. Thank you for the pointer in terms of gender differences in stress. Very interesting.


and a very good morning to the lovely jac devil
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Mar 10, 2014 4:30 AM CST Should Women pilot Jumbos?
check_mate
check_matecheck_mateLondon, Greater London, England UK42 Threads 12 Polls 968 Posts
check_mate: and a very good morning to the lovely jac


Hey jac, fancy stripping for £4,000 a night? devil
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Mar 10, 2014 4:40 AM CST Should Women pilot Jumbos?
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
lifeisadream: As always you forgot to place the reference.
Why So Few Women Pilots?
to look the text is yours?

Big fraud.

I find it odd that someone who has indicated they have a Ph.D/Post Doctorate on their profile not only doesn't cite references, but appears resistant to doing so.

You'd think committing plagiarism for someone with that level of education would be like one of Pavlov's dogs trying not to salivate when they hear a bell ring. dunno
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Mar 10, 2014 4:43 AM CST Should Women pilot Jumbos?
check_mate
check_matecheck_mateLondon, Greater London, England UK42 Threads 12 Polls 968 Posts
jac379: I find it odd that someone who has indicated they have a Ph.D/Post Doctorate on their profile not only doesn't cite references, but appears resistant to doing so.

You'd think committing plagiarism for someone with that level of education would be like one of Pavlov's dogs trying not to salivate when they hear a bell ring.


Oh for god's sake laugh
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Mar 10, 2014 4:56 AM CST Should Women pilot Jumbos?
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
check_mate: Oh for god's sake

For his, she may.
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Mar 10, 2014 4:56 AM CST Should Women pilot Jumbos?
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
DjWabbet: ...heres one of my favourite videos....

Good video, Wabbit.

"Do it yourself! Do. It. Yourself!" rolling on the floor laughing

It reminds me of me using self-service tills in the supermarket...
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Mar 10, 2014 4:58 AM CST Should Women pilot Jumbos?
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
sophiasummer: For his, she may.

Nah, but I might for her's. giggle

Hi Soph. wave
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Mar 10, 2014 5:17 AM CST Should Women pilot Jumbos?
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
Nah, but I might for her's.

Hi Soph.
Hi jac

popcorn laugh joy
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