I am still shaking from and having difficulties talking because of an incident this morning.
As some of you know, I live on a lake with geese and ducks. At the moment, there are many baby geese waddling around with their 2 geese parents.
I looked out my window this morning and saw a boy, approx. age 10, with a large branch beating a family of geese. This was happening beneath my window and I saw the 2 adult geese being beaten as they were trying to protect their 6 babies. I ran out on my balcony and yelled down to the boy to stop. He muttered something and continued, and the scene I was witnessing will give me nightmares for weeks to come.
I ran downstairs and at that point, this boy was being chased down the street by a woman and the boy had a baby goose dangling in his hand running towards the main road. I yelled after them asking where this child's parents were and the woman said she was his mother. In my state of heightened adrenalin, I asked what the hell was wrong with the boy. She said he was autistic and she turned to me and very snidely said thatI seemed more concerned about the welfare of the baby goose, than of her son. I must admit that at that very moment in time, she was correct. I cannot abide defenseless animals and children being abused and tortured.
Somehow the baby was let go and I won't recount the next half hour, but I eventually got in my car and began driving to work. I would've probably been upset and let it go at that. What I then saw was the boy, alone again, walking around the lake with a stick. The mother left him alone, unsupervised.
I was livid at that point and called the police and reported that an unsupervised autistic boy was in my neighborhood attacking and beating animals.
Am I unsympathetic to the boy and mother in this situation?
jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK12,293 posts
Whether you were unsympathetic to the boy and his mother in your distress is irrelevant. You did the right thing.
The mother may be exhausted and at her wit's end. If the authorities are involved she might get the support she needs.
Being autistic is not a justification for animal cruelty. The child needs help to understand this. He can't go through life thinking behaviours like that are acceptable. What happens in 10 years time if he does something like that, maybe to someone human and vulnerable? He gets put in prison? What would that be like for him? My guess, possibly an even greater torture than for non-autistic people.
Better to deal with it now while he can't be seen as being fully responsible for his actions because he's a minor.
I hope the family gets the support they need now that you have reported the incident.
That mother is not able/willing to control her son. Therefore, professional help is required.
Always remember, many people who go on to hurt fellow human beings started off hurting animals. So it is better to have it dealt with early so it can be stopped.
You did the right thing hun, sleep easy with that in mind
Hi Kaybee, no, there is no excuse for the mother's behaviour.
The oldest toddler of acquaintances got diagnosed with autism (approx. 4 years old). I haven't seen the kid for a while, but I never noticed anything unusual.
Apparently he couldn't divide between right and wrong and would hurt others and they send him to a special school and his behaviour approved drastically.
It seems like help is possible, I don't know how much it is out there but if the mother doesn't step up and takes responsibility and gets help, they should be reported to the relevant child minding authorities.
I agree with the comments posted so far - you did the right thing. And you showed admirable restraint in the way you dealt with the mother and child. Not so sure I would have been equally restrained in the same circumstances.
You expressed some of the same thoughts that have been running around in my mind...that this mother is at wit's end. And I have thought as well about the young children that are often out playing and how he might harm one of them next time.
I haven't seen this boy before, so I don't know if they are new here. But working all day most days, I hardly know who lives here, who doesn't, or how long people have lived here. This has brought up some concerns though regarding dead animals I've seen in the lake on previous occasions.
Living on a lake is not the serene experience I had imagined it to be. When my contract expires at the end of July, I will be moving. I have been researching other flats for the last couple of months for budgetary reasons and mental health reasons.
If I see this boy doing harm to anything again, I will first call the police (who I don't think even responded this morning), and my 2nd call will be to Family and Children's Services.
LadyDiz2: I agree with the comments posted so far - you did the right thing. And you showed admirable restraint in the way you dealt with the mother and child. Not so sure I would have been equally restrained in the same circumstances.
It was afterwards, when I was driving to work, that I starting losing it. I was shaking and hyperventilating and had to pull to the side of the rode. I phoned my best friend who talked me through getting my breathing under control.
Brannigan70Yellow Brick Road , Manchester, Mayo Ireland2,339 posts
Kaybee50: I am still shaking from and having difficulties talking because of an incident this morning.
As some of you know, I live on a lake with geese and ducks. At the moment, there are many baby geese waddling around with their 2 geese parents.
I looked out my window this morning and saw a boy, approx. age 10, with a large branch beating a family of geese. This was happening beneath my window and I saw the 2 adult geese being beaten as they were trying to protect their 6 babies. I ran out on my balcony and yelled down to the boy to stop. He muttered something and continued, and the scene I was witnessing will give me nightmares for weeks to come.
I ran downstairs and at that point, this boy was being chased down the street by a woman and the boy had a baby goose dangling in his hand running towards the main road. I yelled after them asking where this child's parents were and the woman said she was his mother. In my state of heightened adrenalin, I asked what the hell was wrong with the boy. She said he was autistic and she turned to me and very snidely said thatI seemed more concerned about the welfare of the baby goose, than of her son. I must admit that at that very moment in time, she was correct. I cannot abide defenseless animals and children being abused and tortured.
Somehow the baby was let go and I won't recount the next half hour, but I eventually got in my car and began driving to work. I would've probably been upset and let it go at that. What I then saw was the boy, alone again, walking around the lake with a stick. The mother left him alone, unsupervised.
I was livid at that point and called the police and reported that an unsupervised autistic boy was in my neighborhood attacking and beating animals.
Am I unsympathetic to the boy and mother in this situation?
You weren't to know that the boy was autistic before having been told by his 'mother' . You did what I or anybody else would've done in the circumstances . Nobody with a sense of responsibility would stand by and allow a defenceless animal/bird be beaten by any human being . She's far from being a fit mother , guilty of a greater 'crime' by being careless/negligent towards her little boy .
Kaybee50: It was afterwards, when I was driving to work, that I starting losing it. I was shaking and hyperventilating and had to pull to the side of the rode. I phoned my best friend who talked me through getting my breathing under control.
Horrible thing to witness. I'm glad you had someone to help you through it.
Brannigan70: You weren't to know that the boy was autistic before having been told by his 'mother' . You did what I or anybody else would've done in the circumstances . Nobody with a sense of responsibility would stand by and allow a defenceless animal/bird be beaten by any human being . She's far from being a fit mother , guilty of a greater 'crime' by being careless/negligent towards her little boy .
When I saw that the boy was again strolling around the lake with big stick in hand and the mother no where to be seen...intense anger.
No need to feel icky, you acted in a manner you felt was right at the time, and if you had not and something had gone wrong, you would have felt it for the rest of your life.
rebel2: No need to feel icky, you acted in a manner you felt was right at the time, and if you had not and something had gone wrong, you would have felt it for the rest of your life.
Have a cuddle
Thank you T. A cuddle is what is needed right now. I need to calm down.
CatibraeHULL, East Riding of Yorkshire, England UK1,827 posts
Kaybee50: Well, I wondered about that too.
The parents didn't flee or go into the water, probably because the babies don't have wings yet or move as quickly as they do, so their instinct was probably to protect 6 frantic little ones who didn't know which way to go and try to herd them. They seemed to be trying to cover and shield the babies. Horrible.
You did the right thing....the woman should have more control over her son...autistic or not...me thinks
The parents didn't flee or go into the water, probably because the babies don't have wings yet or move as quickly as they do, so their instinct was probably to protect 6 frantic little ones who didn't know which way to go and try to herd them. They seemed to be trying to cover and shield the babies. Horrible.
At least the authorities know about the incident now. It just takes time from this point for the matter to be controlled.
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As some of you know, I live on a lake with geese and ducks. At the moment, there are many baby geese waddling around with their 2 geese parents.
I looked out my window this morning and saw a boy, approx. age 10, with a large branch beating a family of geese. This was happening beneath my window and I saw the 2 adult geese being beaten as they were trying to protect their 6 babies. I ran out on my balcony and yelled down to the boy to stop. He muttered something and continued, and the scene I was witnessing will give me nightmares for weeks to come.
I ran downstairs and at that point, this boy was being chased down the street by a woman and the boy had a baby goose dangling in his hand running towards the main road. I yelled after them asking where this child's parents were and the woman said she was his mother. In my state of heightened adrenalin, I asked what the hell was wrong with the boy. She said he was autistic and she turned to me and very snidely said thatI seemed more concerned about the welfare of the baby goose, than of her son. I must admit that at that very moment in time, she was correct. I cannot abide defenseless animals and children being abused and tortured.
Somehow the baby was let go and I won't recount the next half hour, but I eventually got in my car and began driving to work. I would've probably been upset and let it go at that. What I then saw was the boy, alone again, walking around the lake with a stick. The mother left him alone, unsupervised.
I was livid at that point and called the police and reported that an unsupervised autistic boy was in my neighborhood attacking and beating animals.
Am I unsympathetic to the boy and mother in this situation?