Why is the woman the one that has to relocate? ( Archived) (68)

Mar 1, 2015 6:34 AM CST Why is the woman the one that has to relocate?
unlaoised
unlaoisedunlaoisedTwilight zone, Wicklow Ireland34 Threads 12,152 Posts
equiya: No, Canada is just too cold for me and I don't want to move back to the US even though my 2 brothers live there.


I get you about the cold. Brrr! Not sure I could deal with that level of it
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Mar 1, 2015 6:36 AM CST Why is the woman the one that has to relocate?
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
Charlie2016: What is wrong with men using their passports?


More often than not his work is more valuable than her work in both financial and real terms for two reasons:

1) Men study STEM or do trades and are more competitive, ambitious and work longer hours/take fewer days off making them of greater value economically across all stratas of society.

2) Women naturally select higher status men. There are men poorer and of lower social status but women are seldomly attracted to them on any level. Women want the big cheese and then wonder why the big cheese won't tow her line.

Oh and good luck with the relationship.
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Mar 1, 2015 6:48 AM CST Why is the woman the one that has to relocate?
abcWOMAN
abcWOMANabcWOMANLuleå, Norrbotten Sweden20 Threads 2 Polls 1,583 Posts
equiya: true, like me I WILL NOT MARRY anyone and sponsor him for immigration to Canada. If you sponsor anyone for immigration to Canada you are financially responsible for the person for 10 years even if you divorce the person. I met a Brit going thru this here now so he is thinking of moving back to the UK.


wave

10 years it's a long time!blues

All Canadians will run from CS and chose "Canada only" (or chose a match who can make it on her/his own way to Canada)! laugh

I wish you good luck finding your way to Europé and EU!handshake
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Mar 1, 2015 6:54 AM CST Why is the woman the one that has to relocate?
Snookums3
Snookums3Snookums3Johannesburg, Gauteng South Africa80 Threads 35 Polls 1,174 Posts
Charlie2016: What is wrong with men using their passports?


It is not about them using their passports, but it has always been the woman that has to bow to the man, and not the other way around. It is ridiculous.
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Mar 1, 2015 6:58 AM CST Why is the woman the one that has to relocate?
Snookums3
Snookums3Snookums3Johannesburg, Gauteng South Africa80 Threads 35 Polls 1,174 Posts
Obstinance_Works: More often than not his work is more valuable than her work in both financial and real terms for two reasons:

1) Men study STEM or do trades and are more competitive, ambitious and work longer hours/take fewer days off making them of greater value economically across all stratas of society.

2) Women naturally select higher status men. There are men poorer and of lower social status but women are seldomly attracted to them on any level. Women want the big cheese and then wonder why the big cheese won't tow her line.

Oh and good luck with the relationship.


Wake up and smell the roses!!! I have always been the big cheese in my relationships!!! They always earned a LOT less, with a lot less self confidence.
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Mar 1, 2015 7:01 AM CST Why is the woman the one that has to relocate?
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
I would have no problem relocating if need be.
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Mar 1, 2015 8:18 AM CST Why is the woman the one that has to relocate?
equiya
equiyaequiyaunknown, Ontario Canada2 Threads 4,055 Posts
abcWOMAN: 10 years it's a long time!

All Canadians will run from CS and chose "Canada only" (or chose a match who can make it on her/his own way to Canada)!

I wish you good luck finding your way to Europé and EU!



unfortunately, that's the law in Canada now. and it is not only about spouses but family members too - my cleaner sponsored her mother here from Portugal and went thru this, my neighbour brought in her daughter from Jamaica - same thing.
EU will welcome me back with open arms, even my former work colleagues.
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Mar 1, 2015 10:36 AM CST Why is the woman the one that has to relocate?
abcWOMAN
abcWOMANabcWOMANLuleå, Norrbotten Sweden20 Threads 2 Polls 1,583 Posts
Ken_19: I live in a fantasy place. ....you to work there. Maybe you have relatives there you can crash with if things don't work out. A few others...


I’m also like you comfortable in my community, where I can express myself in my own language (not English). You did forget one thing Ken, many people tend to forget their new learn language, when they get older. What a terrible thought, being trapped in a foreign country and not being able to communicate and no family around!
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Mar 1, 2015 10:51 AM CST Why is the woman the one that has to relocate?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Thread: Why is the woman the one that has to relocate?
Charlie2016: What is wrong with men using their passports?


What about living in both places if they can afford it, although the decision will depend on the countries migration laws, jobs, resources, and family.




coffee
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Mar 1, 2015 7:08 PM CST Why is the woman the one that has to relocate?
Many men who have written to me have either on a certain site say willing to relocate. Also there are men I am writing to who are wiling to come to me. A few men asked if I would move where they reside. Personally I am looking to move with or without a man. Just my opinion. wine
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Mar 1, 2015 7:10 PM CST Why is the woman the one that has to relocate?
xxDandelionxx
xxDandelionxxxxDandelionxxunknown, Hampshire, England UK8 Threads 2,525 Posts
Charlie2016: What is wrong with men using their passports?


To be fair, its not always the man. My last partner re-located to be with me. Okay, he didn't need a passport, but I'm sure it was a real wrench to move away from family, friends, to an area you don't know.

Sadly, it didn't work out but there's still a lot to be said for being an opportunist!
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Mar 1, 2015 7:34 PM CST Why is the woman the one that has to relocate?
jono7
jono7jono7Out West, British Columbia Canada3 Threads 8,017 Posts
Charlie2016: What is wrong with men using their passports?


hiya charlie2016 wave

i think lotsa men do use their passports.

my partner moved 3000 miles to be with me after we both had taken turns going back and forth. (ontario to bc)
albeit, didn't need a passport....but that's still a heck of a move!

originally, i was going to move to ontario, but due to some health issues i was unable to.

i think if two folks are trying to be together, there needs to be some give and take, and a focus on the 'Us'. employment, health, children, to name just a few things..... lots of stuff to consider....




wine
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Mar 1, 2015 8:25 PM CST Why is the woman the one that has to relocate?
funke3
funke3funke3London, Greater London, England UK191 Posts
I think he means men like Halv0 of Australia and his chinese wife .Obviously money earned in China /Asia or other developing countries is usually less as compared to earnings in Europe and some other countries.
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Mar 1, 2015 8:29 PM CST Why is the woman the one that has to relocate?
journeyman6060
journeyman6060journeyman6060Vallejo, California USA6 Posts
I agree with you their I don't see why the men don't agree to relocate or to make it easier for both how about both of you finding a place half way between each other an move their that way you both have taken the leap of faith
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Mar 1, 2015 8:29 PM CST Why is the woman the one that has to relocate?
funke3
funke3funke3London, Greater London, England UK191 Posts
Halv0: You don't actually know why? Well, let's put it into social perspective. In recent history, men were expected to be the "bread winners" (as a matter of fact, many women still expect this now). There is this general expectations of quite a few women, that the man will work hard to provide a plush house, holidays, expensive clothes, flash cars (not just one), etc. So boys grow up having these femine expectations reinforced when they hear their mums whinging and complaining to other women about their husbands.

So men think, "I must provide for my partner" to the level of expectation that she has".

Now if I were to move to a different country, work is not all that easy to come by. My wife is chinese, was a nurse. Even when she finished up her nursing (she is retired, and on a pension - hence why whe wanted to move) she told me that jobs are not easy to come by any more in China.

This is often the economic reality. And I really don't know many women who would be happy living a humble lifestyle in reality. I do know many who say they would, but who have to get their hair done, the nails done, etc. You know, the things that really don't fit in with a humble lifestyle (in western cultures anyway).

So this is one reason. So really if you don't want to move, and he doesn't have the income stream to keep you in your accustomed lifestyle, then I think it really won't work out.

You know, love has to be practical, as well as everything else. And certain realities have to happen.

If you love him, really love him, then I wouldn't think that it would have been a big deal. Sames goes for him of course. But if you are both about yourselves respectively, then of course it is going to be an issue, like many other things will become an issue when he wants to do something and you don't (and visa versa).

So as others have said. Drop the LDR thing. It is not for fairytales, and LDRs have many challenges to overcome. I know having been in one and having married a 'foreign' woman.

But I can say that because we were actually, really in love, none of that stuff really mattered. There have been cultural difference to overcome, let alone the gender differences that transcend country borders and that are universal.

So if it really matters to you in your LDR, then I don't think you're probably ready for a real relationship of this kind anyway.

Stick to locals.JMO.
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Mar 1, 2015 8:40 PM CST Why is the woman the one that has to relocate?
funke3
funke3funke3London, Greater London, England UK191 Posts
Unfortunately most women who moved from places like China/ Asia or other parts of the world aren't doing it because of their love for their men.They move for better life and comfort for themselves.
Women in Europe or other developing countries don't necessarily have to move because their husbands earn more wages.They are self sufficient and in most cases earn more than their male partner.
Frankly speaking your situation with your Chinese wife is not a good example on this topic.
However,this is Forum,and anyone who thinks they know better can give their own opinions on any subjects.And who knows,some certain persons may see the logic to their comparisons!
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Mar 1, 2015 8:53 PM CST Why is the woman the one that has to relocate?
funke3
funke3funke3London, Greater London, England UK191 Posts
nomindgames: Many men who have written to me have either on a certain site say willing to relocate. Also there are men I am writing to who are wiling to come to me. A few men asked if I would move where they reside. Personally I am looking to move with or without a man. Just my opinion.

U can always move to England.English gentlemen are waiting for u!
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Mar 1, 2015 9:23 PM CST Why is the woman the one that has to relocate?
Charlie2016: What is wrong with men using their passports?


if someone needs a passport to date, then I doubt I will be in that pairing...lol

who says the woman has to relocate? I have no intention of doing so, nor do I want someone to relocate for me. dunno
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Mar 1, 2015 9:24 PM CST Why is the woman the one that has to relocate?
lovely4u7da
lovely4u7dalovely4u7dachicago, Illinois USA32 Threads 1,337 Posts
a man should never move into what a woman has already set up unless he relocates with intentions to buy something for them both not what she has already,,,,,a woman will come to resent a man that moved in with her and added nothing from the beginning.

a woman should move where the man is ,,if at all possible


if you don`t want to relocate than don`t date a man outside your state or country,,,,
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Mar 3, 2015 2:16 AM CST Why is the woman the one that has to relocate?
Nidifugous
NidifugousNidifugousYap, Federated States of Micronesia38 Threads 3 Polls 1,430 Posts
Charlie2016: What is wrong with men using their passports?


That's old school. Men provided and women moved. Today, it's a compromise. Usually people move to the place where the partner with the higher income/lifestyle lives.

Re poor countries. Heck, those can be great places with low cost of living. The only difficulty is that there are often drawbacks in terms of access to quality medical care and pharma (I speak from experience). Another issue is residency/visa requirements which means that you may have to marry.

If all that stuff is too much trouble, then one is definitely better off dating locally as mentioned in an earlier post.
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