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Mar 3, 2015 9:17 PM CST many lives, many master's
truheart1941: how better off..are we today......then our fore fathers......with all this imfomation...at hand......is the world abetter place.......???????


Depends on how you look at it. Barbaric way of life is definitely accounted for lack of civilized benefits but when it comes to technology and science, I'd say yes. Now on matters of religion and how some dogma or for lack of a better word, ignorance, definitely not.
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Mar 4, 2015 3:52 PM CST many lives, many master's
jono7
jono7jono7Out West, British Columbia Canada3 Threads 8,017 Posts
allthegoodnamest: Pedalguy.

I wasn't aware of that either..
I know many places in the USA named after English towns or cities but I'm always open to learning about other countries and different cultures..


if you take a look at a map of british columbia...you may be surprised by the number of english place names you recognize...

they don't call vancouver island, 'the tweed curtain' for nothing...laugh
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Mar 4, 2015 4:15 PM CST many lives, many master's
jono7
jono7jono7Out West, British Columbia Canada3 Threads 8,017 Posts
while i haven't read any books by brian weiss, i am familiar with some of his work.

i don't know if there is such a thing as reincarnation.

but i do know that i have first hand experienced some things that suggest to me that there may be.

i like what colin wilson (english writer) said in an interview many years ago regarding life after death. he said that it's gonna be whatever you believe it will be.

i don't need to know for sure how one life may impact another in a progression of reincarnations to believe that practicing kindness, and compassion for others in this life is key to spiritual development.

and i totally agree with 'when the student is ready, the master will appear'.
sometimes we just need to get out of ourselves to 'see' the syncronicity (and synergy) that is happening around us.

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i liked life's question about determinism...something i'm still learning about...and i wonder what role determinism plays in it all...
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Mar 4, 2015 4:42 PM CST many lives, many master's
jono7: if you take a look at a map of british columbia...you may be surprised by the number of english place names you recognize...

they don't call vancouver island, 'the tweed curtain' for nothing...


Jono, almost all of the country colonized by great Britain has used the original names from England. Australia is no exception and the USA is a complete repetitions.
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Mar 4, 2015 4:43 PM CST many lives, many master's
jono7: while i haven't read any books by brian weiss, i am familiar with some of his work.

i don't know if there is such a thing as reincarnation.

but i do know that i have first hand experienced some things that suggest to me that there may be.

i like what colin wilson (english writer) said in an interview many years ago regarding life after death. he said that it's gonna be whatever you believe it will be.

i don't need to know for sure how one life may impact another in a progression of reincarnations to believe that practicing kindness, and compassion for others in this life is key to spiritual development.

and i totally agree with 'when the student is ready, the master will appear'.
sometimes we just need to get out of ourselves to 'see' the syncronicity (and synergy) that is happening around us.
i liked life's question about determinism...something i'm still learning about...and i wonder what role determinism plays in it all...


All it is Jono7, I thought was to keep an open mind?

What do we have to lose?
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Mar 4, 2015 4:50 PM CST many lives, many master's
jono7
jono7jono7Out West, British Columbia Canada3 Threads 8,017 Posts
lindsyjones: All it is Jono7, I thought was to keep an open mind?

What do we have to lose?


yes....open mind to listen to ideas.

the moment one needs to be right, is the moment they have stopped looking for the truth.
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Mar 4, 2015 4:54 PM CST many lives, many master's
jono7: yes....open mind to listen to ideas.

the moment one needs to be right, is the moment they have stopped looking for the truth.


Now that is the most valid confirmation I've read since Rene Descartes' "I THINK THEREFORE I AM".

Thanks Jono7.
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Mar 4, 2015 4:56 PM CST many lives, many master's
jono7: yes....open mind to listen to ideas.

the moment one needs to be right, is the moment they have stopped looking for the truth.
..I have a very opened mind....as a matter of fact.....its a blank........rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Mar 4, 2015 4:57 PM CST many lives, many master's
pedalguy59
pedalguy59pedalguy59Burlington, Ontario Canada28 Threads 1 Polls 6,976 Posts
lindsyjones: Now that is the most valid confirmation I've read since Rene Descartes' "I THINK THEREFORE I AM".

Thanks Jono7.


One up on the French man, "I know what I like, and I like what I
know."- Peter Gabriel.
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Mar 4, 2015 6:10 PM CST many lives, many master's
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
lindsyjones: Now that is the most valid confirmation I've read since Rene Descartes' "I THINK THEREFORE I AM".

Thanks Jono7.


Descartes thought he had found the ultimate truth when he made that statement. Instead, unknown to him, he had really found the root of the ego.
It took almost three hundred years before someone saw in that statement that Descartes had overlooked. That was John-Paul Sartre. After looking at Descartes, "I think therefore I am," he said, " the consciousness that says I am, is not the consciousness that thinks."
Maybe he was a little nearer to the truth.
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Mar 4, 2015 7:33 PM CST many lives, many master's
bodleing2: Descartes thought he had found the ultimate truth when he made that statement. Instead, unknown to him, he had really found the root of the ego.
It took almost three hundred years before someone saw in that statement that Descartes had overlooked. That was John-Paul Sartre. After looking at Descartes, "I think therefore I am," he said, " the consciousness that says I am, is not the consciousness that thinks."
Maybe he was a little nearer to the truth.


It does confirm the book of Cordelia Fine's A MIND ON ITS OWN.

But with the popular notion that ego is your mind and why not, to some people in the new world, we are truly acting based on the validity of what ego can lead us to.

But as you say, who can argue?
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Mar 4, 2015 7:40 PM CST many lives, many master's
lindsyjones: Dr. Brian Weiss book documents the cycle of our lives we have lived and more yet to live.

Question: if it were true, shouldn't our journey on this life be crucial to our regression or progression?
I just read an article about many people, including Christians, who believe in predestination, "Que sera, sera..." so to speak. Now, if predestination is true, why bother to be so fastidious in not sinning, etc...if what is going to happen to you is going to happen anyway? To me, that doesn't make sense, not good sense, anyway.
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Mar 4, 2015 7:56 PM CST many lives, many master's
rohaan: I just read an article about many people, including Christians, who believe in predestination, "Que sera, sera..." so to speak. Now, if predestination is true, why bother to be so fastidious in not sinning, etc...if what is going to happen to you is going to happen anyway? To me, that doesn't make sense, not good sense, anyway.


Don't distort the message on this book, on the contrary, you have a choice on the next life, based on your actions of the present. It emphasizes that if you choose to be bad here, then you will regress in the next as the direction of being good and progress if you choose to be good here.

Please read it. It has nothing to do with IF HAPPENS TO YOU THEN IT HAPPENS ANYWAY?
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Mar 4, 2015 8:02 PM CST many lives, many master's
lindsyjones: Don't distort the message on this book, on the contrary, you have a choice on the next life, based on your actions of the present. It emphasizes that if you choose to be bad here, then you will regress in the next as the direction of being good and progress if you choose to be good here.

Please read it. It has nothing to do with IF HAPPENS TO YOU THEN IT HAPPENS ANYWAY?
I was making a comment that I felt was germane to the overall topic. No distortion was made or intended. I agree that we have choices, and I agree that they are based on our actions here in the present. I understand the analogy and what you are saying is emphasized. I have not read it. I take your word for it that it has nothing to do with predestination. May I participate in the discussion as thoughts and angles occur to me, or should I stay in a succinct parameter that you decide is pertinent? ..thanx a bunch...
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Mar 4, 2015 8:22 PM CST many lives, many master's
rohaan: I was making a comment that I felt was germane to the overall topic. No distortion was made or intended. I agree that we have choices, and I agree that they are based on our actions here in the present. I understand the analogy and what you are saying is emphasized. I have not read it. I take your word for it that it has nothing to do with predestination. May I participate in the discussion as thoughts and angles occur to me, or should I stay in a succinct parameter that you decide is pertinent? ..thanx a bunch...


No not at all, my respect. Yes, I have read it and being a Catholic Christian, the book is a very compelling and scientific in its documents.

But setting aside this: At the peak of understanding THAT IF ALL WE DO HERE NOW, HAS A REPERCUSSION OF OUR FUTURE, THEN WHY NOT BE GOOD THEN? AND I AM WONDERING WHY IT IS SO MUCH EASIER TO BE BAD THAN TO BE GOOD?

Thanks for joining. Your opinions are not measured and or equated to what is pertinent, just that we have to stay on the true message of the book...IMHO
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Mar 4, 2015 11:23 PM CST many lives, many master's
Obstinance_Works: Maybe there is no continuity.
Maybe we live this life over and over again in the exact same way each time.

If it were true I tend think that your actions in this life are not carried over to the next - if they did this would imply to me a fairness to existence which I don't think exists.

Not a part of me believes that the rich man was a saint in his last life or that the cripple was a murderer in his. My opinion is that karma/reincarnation et al are under the surface a completely barbarous way of looking at the world that we've borrowed from the east because it's trendy(sort of)and because we're lazy and superficial thinkers.

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Exactly the point Obs., sorry I didn't read this.

But the point is exactly the opposite of what you just said about the saint to be a murderer or what. It is the very act of our current that will bring us to where we should be. In other words it is more of a rewards and punishment consequences.

The book opens up the possibility that in our journey to a continuous goal, stepping from one level to the next is determined only from the result of your current life. Wherein the continuity is either going down to reduction or rewarding to the next level. It fosters our call for being good and morally obligated to do wrong if at all you want to reach the final destination.

Like a child when he does something good, he's given something that makes him feel inspired to do it better and better. On the other side if a child had been bad, then bam, in isolation...

Now granting that this is true, it to me, fosters us all to do good and when that happens then we achieve the world of the enlightened...
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Mar 15, 2015 1:41 AM CST many lives, many master's
truheart. 1941: how better off..are we today......then our fore fathers......with all this information...at hand......is the world a better place.......???????


Absolutely. In every way. Technology, education, information, medical, etc.
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Mar 15, 2015 10:45 AM CST many lives, many master's
avias
aviasaviasSoutheast, Missouri USA23 Posts
Very enlightening to read the ideas and opinions shared in this blog! I am one who is seeking,reading,listening.... in a continuing quest for information/ideas that add or improve my perception of life and truth. Let me say this blog has opened new thoughts to explore...it is like the Pandora Box....and why not.....there should be no limits to ideas that open our minds and may bring a better understanding of life and this world. Reading and exploring ideas are a priviledge for those of us who are able to do it....we are fortunate in being able to understand the written word as we are doing here.
Thank you Lindsey and all those who commented...life should be a continuing journey of learning...with an open mind and always seeking the concept of truth. We may not always agree but each person has the right to think and share his/her thoughts. thumbs up typing
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Mar 15, 2015 11:19 AM CST many lives, many master's
avias: Very enlightening to read the ideas and opinions shared in this blog! I am one who is seeking,reading,listening.... in a continuing quest for information/ideas that add or improve my perception of life and truth. Let me say this blog has opened new thoughts to explore...it is like the Pandora Box....and why not.....there should be no limits to ideas that open our minds and may bring a better understanding of life and this world. Reading and exploring ideas are a priviledge for those of us who are able to do it....we are fortunate in being able to understand the written word as we are doing here.
Thank you Lindsey and all those who commented...life should be a continuing journey of learning...with an open mind and always seeking the concept of truth. We may not always agree but each person has the right to think and share his/her thoughts.


Exactly my point Avias. It's not enough to settle and accept our limitations. After all if you look at the record of man's progress, it's a journey that is both committed to the exploration of limitless possibilities.

Einstein, Newton, Plato, and countless experts in being remarkably intelligent exemplifies that we, too, can become like them. Tenacity, drive, commitment and passion are the keys that take us there. But having an open mind is the gate that allow us to. So let's be positive and accept that its available for us all. Thanks.
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Mar 15, 2015 3:09 PM CST many lives, many master's
truheart1941: ..I have a very opened mind....as a matter of fact.....its a blank........


Be careful Tru, sarcasm is a defense to close mindedness, IMHO
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