We are under invasion (112)
Jaymack: Very True
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i know we could agree at the end ,,
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tomcatwarne: Most of the would be immigrants in Calais are there to try to exploit the British welfare system which they have not paid in for.
The English themselves are not a rich nation, and many English men and women have too apply for food stamps which they can use in the food banks to get food for themselves and their families.
The illegal immigrants wish to take this food as their right, they must be stopped at all costs.
If I see someone taking the food from my families mouth, do you think I will not fight the.
All the do gooders in France and elsewhere wish to give this to people who are not entitled.
The French because they simply wish to pass this on the others from some sort of do gooder liberalism, well I say to you share your own food with them, not my families.
Do you think the British people ill not fight these new invaders, if you do you are wrong, we will fight them hand to hand =, for our families , as we have done before.
we will never surrender, our families welfare.
So be warned.
The English themselves are not a rich nation, and many English men and women have too apply for food stamps which they can use in the food banks to get food for themselves and their families.
The illegal immigrants wish to take this food as their right, they must be stopped at all costs.
If I see someone taking the food from my families mouth, do you think I will not fight the.
All the do gooders in France and elsewhere wish to give this to people who are not entitled.
The French because they simply wish to pass this on the others from some sort of do gooder liberalism, well I say to you share your own food with them, not my families.
Do you think the British people ill not fight these new invaders, if you do you are wrong, we will fight them hand to hand =, for our families , as we have done before.
we will never surrender, our families welfare.
So be warned.
If there's nothing to be exploited, then they won't come to UK,, seems the solution is in your country's system,, when it resorts to fighting, they can't win by arms but by number,, how ready are we to kill by thousands ,,,and one thing to consider too, that some of this immigrants,, have more or less have existing family ties already inplanted in the territory,,resulting from ancient colonizations,,, just like what happened in France,, it can't close it's doors to people from Morroco and Algeria ,, and Vietnam, to name a few,,
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Lolette: If there's nothing to be exploited, then they won't come to UK,, seems the solution is in your country's system,, when it resorts to fighting, they can't win by arms but by number,, how ready are we to kill by thousands ,,,and one thing to consider too, that some of this immigrants,, have more or less have existing family ties already inplanted in the territory,,resulting from ancient colonizations,,, just like what happened in France,, it can't close it's doors to people from Morroco and Algeria ,, and Vietnam, to name a few,,
@implanted ,,,
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Lolette: If there's nothing to be exploited, then they won't come to UK,, seems the solution is in your country's system,, when it resorts to fighting, they can't win by arms but by number,, how ready are we to kill by thousands ,,,and one thing to consider too, that some of this immigrants,, have more or less have existing family ties already inplanted in the territory,,resulting from ancient colonizations,,, just like what happened in France,, it can't close it's doors to people from Morroco and Algeria ,, and Vietnam, to name a few,,
Oh we can allow and diallow who we want, we owe nothing to these bleating nations who say they have been exploited.
Look at history this could be said of many nations including France
These people simply want something the British people have, and they want a short cut to it, not by working for it.
To say that it is the fault of the British because they have something others want, is not an argument it is nonsense.
Other countries have beneficial systems, should they surrender these to blackmailers?
Should America give wealth to the Mexicans?
No and we will not give ours up.
The British army must once again go to Calais.
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tomcatwarne: Oh we can allow and diallow who we want, we owe nothing to these bleating nations who say they have been exploited.
Look at history this could be said of many nations including France
These people simply want something the British people have, and they want a short cut to it, not by working for it.
To say that it is the fault of the British because they have something others want, is not an argument it is nonsense.
Other countries have beneficial systems, should they surrender these to blackmailers?
Should America give wealth to the Mexicans?
No and we will not give ours up.
The British army must once again go to Calais.
Look at history this could be said of many nations including France
These people simply want something the British people have, and they want a short cut to it, not by working for it.
To say that it is the fault of the British because they have something others want, is not an argument it is nonsense.
Other countries have beneficial systems, should they surrender these to blackmailers?
Should America give wealth to the Mexicans?
No and we will not give ours up.
The British army must once again go to Calais.
Tom,, i think, it's preferable to break the neck of a few, those tyrants, corrupt, and greedy ,,they are lesser in number, and justifies
such acts,,blackmailers ? where does they come from and who supported them?? kill the roots and they won't propagate,,
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Lolette: Tom,, i think, it's preferable to break the neck of a few, those tyrants, corrupt, and greedy ,,they are lesser in number, and justifies
such acts,,blackmailers ? where does they come from and who supported them?? kill the roots and they won't propagate,,
such acts,,blackmailers ? where does they come from and who supported them?? kill the roots and they won't propagate,,
But i would ask who allows thse invaders to mass along our most vulnerable borders. The French. What are they doing to protect the British poor and women and children, who face hunger if they exploit our systems.
The British fought for France in WW2, allowed DeGaule to run his operations from London, what thanks we get.
The French just want to pass the buck again.
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tomcatwarne: But i would ask who allows thse invaders to mass along our most vulnerable borders. The French. What are they doing to protect the British poor and women and children, who face hunger if they exploit our systems.
The British fought for France in WW2, allowed DeGaule to run his operations from London, what thanks we get.
The French just want to pass the buck again.
The British fought for France in WW2, allowed DeGaule to run his operations from London, what thanks we get.
The French just want to pass the buck again.
France allow, is an easy accusation. France too is struggling with illegal immigrants. If there's someone to protect the poor british as you say, then it's the British themselves. French too have poor, and the system has even a hard time coping with them. About WW2,,i'm not very well documented about it, but i know De Gaule planned his strategies in UK,, sending just signals and codes to France,, but then this illegal immigration is a "collective problem", not only in Europe,, USA has it's Cuban & Mexican illegal immigrants too,, they are inevitable ,,specially in times of claimatic calamities and political chaos,,
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Lolette: France allow, is an easy accusation. France too is struggling with illegal immigrants. If there's someone to protect the poor british as you say, then it's the British themselves. French too have poor, and the system has even a hard time coping with them. About WW2,,i'm not very well documented about it, but i know De Gaule planned his strategies in UK,, sending just signals and codes to France,, but then this illegal immigration is a "collective problem", not only in Europe,, USA has it's Cuban & Mexican illegal immigrants too,, they are inevitable ,,specially in times of claimatic calamities and political chaos,,
And to add, France has already send several planes full of immigrants to some eastern european counties,,only to find out later that they're back again after spending the charitable monetary aid accorded to them to settle back in their own country,, they pick pockets here,, attacked tourists,,, squat empty spaces/buildings,,loiter and pollute public places ,,,
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Lolette: France allow, is an easy accusation. France too is struggling with illegal immigrants. If there's someone to protect the poor british as you say, then it's the British themselves. French too have poor, and the system has even a hard time coping with them. About WW2,,i'm not very well documented about it, but i know De Gaule planned his strategies in UK,, sending just signals and codes to France,, but then this illegal immigration is a "collective problem", not only in Europe,, USA has it's Cuban & Mexican illegal immigrants too,, they are inevitable ,,specially in times of claimatic calamities and political chaos,,
Sometimes discusions get heated, nothing personal
This illustrates your point.
There are, of course, nuances in the tone of the debate and the policy framework in different states. But the stress everywhere has been on reducing the flow, while trying to distinguish genuine asylum-seekers from purely “economic” migrants. The Bonn government responded to the Balkan influx in the early 1990s – and to some attacks on refugees – by tightening its previously liberal asylum law. This introduced a “safe third country” rule: if a person has passed through a country which Germany deems safe, he or she cannot apply for asylum in Germany. Since Germany considers all neighbouring countries as safe, asylum-seekers who do not arrive by plane are likely to be rejected.
After these restrictions were introduced in 1993, the number of applications fell sharply, prompting other EU states to follow. In Holland, the numbers of asylum-seekers rose considerably after 1996. The Dutch authorities (like the British, see below) are experiencing difficulties in dealing quickly with applications. As in Britain, Dutch politicians talk of the “flood” of “bogus” refugees, although Dutch newspapers use more temperate language than the British tabloids.
The Dutch government has devised a new Aliens Act, due to come into effect next year. The law, which has been hotly debated, is designed to streamline the asylum procedure and reduce the average time for processing applications from 22 months to six. It will also give all asylum-seekers (who are eligible to stay) a more temporary status. Instead of giving full refugee status after the initial procedure, each case will be reviewed after three years, and only then approved or rejected.
I like this idea.
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Lolette: France allow, is an easy accusation. France too is struggling with illegal immigrants. If there's someone to protect the poor british as you say, then it's the British themselves. French too have poor, and the system has even a hard time coping with them. About WW2,,i'm not very well documented about it, but i know De Gaule planned his strategies in UK,, sending just signals and codes to France,, but then this illegal immigration is a "collective problem", not only in Europe,, USA has it's Cuban & Mexican illegal immigrants too,, they are inevitable ,,specially in times of claimatic calamities and political chaos,,
Sometimes discusions get heated, nothing personal
This illustrates your point.
There are, of course, nuances in the tone of the debate and the policy framework in different states. But the stress everywhere has been on reducing the flow, while trying to distinguish genuine asylum-seekers from purely “economic” migrants. The Bonn government responded to the Balkan influx in the early 1990s – and to some attacks on refugees – by tightening its previously liberal asylum law. This introduced a “safe third country” rule: if a person has passed through a country which Germany deems safe, he or she cannot apply for asylum in Germany. Since Germany considers all neighbouring countries as safe, asylum-seekers who do not arrive by plane are likely to be rejected.
After these restrictions were introduced in 1993, the number of applications fell sharply, prompting other EU states to follow. In Holland, the numbers of asylum-seekers rose considerably after 1996. The Dutch authorities (like the British, see below) are experiencing difficulties in dealing quickly with applications. As in Britain, Dutch politicians talk of the “flood” of “bogus” refugees, although Dutch newspapers use more temperate language than the British tabloids.
The Dutch government has devised a new Aliens Act, due to come into effect next year. The law, which has been hotly debated, is designed to streamline the asylum procedure and reduce the average time for processing applications from 22 months to six. It will also give all asylum-seekers (who are eligible to stay) a more temporary status. Instead of giving full refugee status after the initial procedure, each case will be reviewed after three years, and only then approved or rejected.
I like this idea.
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Don't worry tom,, i love discussions,,
Yes, is a good idea,,, but then the problem becomes more larger in aspect and a huge task to manage,,, ""economic , "political", and "claimatic" migrants at the same time,,that's hard to cope up ,,
Yes, is a good idea,,, but then the problem becomes more larger in aspect and a huge task to manage,,, ""economic , "political", and "claimatic" migrants at the same time,,that's hard to cope up ,,
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Lolette: Don't worry tom,, i love discussions,,
Yes, is a good idea,,, but then the problem becomes more larger in aspect and a huge task to manage,,, ""economic , "political", and "claimatic" migrants at the same time,,that's hard to cope up ,,
Yes, is a good idea,,, but then the problem becomes more larger in aspect and a huge task to manage,,, ""economic , "political", and "claimatic" migrants at the same time,,that's hard to cope up ,,
The admin problems are for the beaurocrats to sort out that's what we pay them for
I lived for some time in Finland who have an immigrant problem also, apart from the almost indigineous problem of the gypsies, the immigrants found a loophole in the Finish allowing relatives to come as immigrants, suddenly hundreds of people became cousins aunts uncles etc., to people who had achieved immigrant status
I myself got residential staus, which I still have.
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Lolette: Don't worry tom,, i love discussions,,
Yes, is a good idea,,, but then the problem becomes more larger in aspect and a huge task to manage,,, ""economic , "political", and "claimatic" migrants at the same time,,that's hard to cope up ,,
Yes, is a good idea,,, but then the problem becomes more larger in aspect and a huge task to manage,,, ""economic , "political", and "claimatic" migrants at the same time,,that's hard to cope up ,,
The admin problems are for the beaurocrats to sort out that's what we pay them for
I lived for some time in Finland who have an immigrant problem also, apart from the almost indigineous problem of the gypsies, the immigrants found a loophole in the Finish allowing relatives to come as immigrants, suddenly hundreds of people became cousins aunts uncles etc., to people who had achieved immigrant status
I myself got residential staus, which I still have.
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green flares coming from Mars
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DertyHarry44: green flares coming from Mars
Heading for Florida ,,,
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Lolette: Heading for Florida ,,,
oh/all we having for the last month rain and more rain
summer is our rain season/but this must be the wrath of the gods
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DertyHarry44: oh/all we having for the last month rain and more rain
summer is our rain season/but this must be the wrath of the gods
summer is our rain season/but this must be the wrath of the gods
Believe me , it's the same in the UK
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tomcatwarne: The admin problems are for the beaurocrats to sort out that's what we pay them for
I lived for some time in Finland who have an immigrant problem also, apart from the almost indigineous problem of the gypsies, the immigrants found a loophole in the Finish allowing relatives to come as immigrants, suddenly hundreds of people became cousins aunts uncles etc., to people who had achieved immigrant status
I myself got residential staus, which I still have.
I lived for some time in Finland who have an immigrant problem also, apart from the almost indigineous problem of the gypsies, the immigrants found a loophole in the Finish allowing relatives to come as immigrants, suddenly hundreds of people became cousins aunts uncles etc., to people who had achieved immigrant status
I myself got residential staus, which I still have.
Exactly Tom,, to be transparent on this thread,,, here in France,, we have a lot of human traffickers too,, many filipinos are arriving everyday, thru connections from cousins, uncles, etc. as what you have stated,, they sometimes are escapees/runaways from their tyrant employers,, (mostly rich & diplomats),, when they are brought in for a holiday,for their services/maids. I know and rescued some of them, thus becoming my spiritual girls,,but the most common practice is,, you pay about 10,000.€ to a trafficker and they will deliver your family on your doorstep,, good enough filipinos are no trouble makers and are hard workers and educationally have high levels, they are highly tolerated and well admired for their sincerity and courage,, me i don't have families here,, i prefer they stay back home,, for i know how painful it is to be uprooted from a homeland,, though i know several reasons could be justifying,,,
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DertyHarry44: oh/all we having for the last month rain and more rain
summer is our rain season/but this must be the wrath of the gods
summer is our rain season/but this must be the wrath of the gods
DH ,,Gods might not be the same as what you have there,,, it very dry and so hot here,, but this week,, god is great,, we have rains and cattles are on the pasture for those rare greens ,,, a hope for good meat/milk without or lesser in hormones !!!,,
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The English themselves are not a rich nation, and many English men and women have too apply for food stamps which they can use in the food banks to get food for themselves and their families.
The illegal immigrants wish to take this food as their right, they must be stopped at all costs.
If I see someone taking the food from my families mouth, do you think I will not fight the.
All the do gooders in France and elsewhere wish to give this to people who are not entitled.
The French because they simply wish to pass this on the others from some sort of do gooder liberalism, well I say to you share your own food with them, not my families.
Do you think the British people ill not fight these new invaders, if you do you are wrong, we will fight them hand to hand =, for our families , as we have done before.
we will never surrender, our families welfare.
So be warned.