We are under invasion (112)
lifeisadream: Do you really believe that what you think “we” own to your country because of illegal immigrants WILL get you out of your financial problems???
The illegal immigrants’ issues have two sides at least:
Cost and benefit.
Have you ever read a scientific paper about them: both?
If you have, place the reference here, please.
Show me with numbers from a reliable source that the illegal immigrants in your country cost more than the benefits you get from them.
The illegal immigrants’ issues have two sides at least:
Cost and benefit.
Have you ever read a scientific paper about them: both?
If you have, place the reference here, please.
Show me with numbers from a reliable source that the illegal immigrants in your country cost more than the benefits you get from them.
In terms of public policy and government deficits, an important figure is the aggregate annual deficit for all unlawful immigrant households. This equals the total benefits and services received by all unlawful immigrant households minus the total taxes paid by those households.
Under current law, all unlawful immigrant households together have an aggregate annual deficit of around $54.5 billion.
In the interim phase (roughly the first 13 years after amnesty), the aggregate annual deficit would fall to $43.4 billion.
At the end of the interim phase, former unlawful immigrant households would become fully eligible for means-tested welfare and health care benefits under the Affordable Care Act. The aggregate annual deficit would soar to around $106 billion
This is a fraction on the Immigration Reports by Redwine.
You can easily access all the legal documents to prove it.
Don't act like you are ignorant. Even in a common sense term, you should know how a country suffers from the influx of ILLEGAL immigrants.
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tomcatwarne: If he supports Chelsea he lives
I say ,send em all toPlymouth.....a week there....and there,al be swimming back to france....
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Prime Ministers Cameron, Vals, Rajoy, & Renzi,, those are leaders with unquestionable capacity, but they all failed when it's comes to solving the illegal immigration problem, for a simple reason that they have all in common as what we can call the logic of politicians.
But when we bring in the logic of survival and human factor, politics are far away behind in facing the uncontrollable wave/number of immigrants that could alight wether we like it or not.
Not until, wars, natural catastrophes, tyrant rulers, could be iliminated, then it's a cause lost in advance.
Laws and measures can be created, but it can never be implemented when a flock of hungry humans are ready to risk their own lives for life. Let's just (for the sake of comparison) imagine a field invaded by hungry insects,, technology has not come up yet with effective solution for those brainless insects,,, now think the case of hungry humans. It's just a simple as this, time will come that those countries who are enjoying a better living condition are forced to admit that they have to share, or help this people develop their own economy, or kill them to stop the population movement. Peace and tranquility has it's price to pay,, we always have the tendency to neglect the practical approach of a problem and replace them with theories that won't hold,,,my own opinion,,
But when we bring in the logic of survival and human factor, politics are far away behind in facing the uncontrollable wave/number of immigrants that could alight wether we like it or not.
Not until, wars, natural catastrophes, tyrant rulers, could be iliminated, then it's a cause lost in advance.
Laws and measures can be created, but it can never be implemented when a flock of hungry humans are ready to risk their own lives for life. Let's just (for the sake of comparison) imagine a field invaded by hungry insects,, technology has not come up yet with effective solution for those brainless insects,,, now think the case of hungry humans. It's just a simple as this, time will come that those countries who are enjoying a better living condition are forced to admit that they have to share, or help this people develop their own economy, or kill them to stop the population movement. Peace and tranquility has it's price to pay,, we always have the tendency to neglect the practical approach of a problem and replace them with theories that won't hold,,,my own opinion,,
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truheart1941: I say ,send em all toPlymouth.....a week there....and there,al be swimming back to france....
It's like a yoyo tru,,,, they swing/swim back & forth,,, FRANCE have a lot to send to,,, and now Greece island ,,, cos,, they are hundreds and a lot are still coming,, angry and hungry, demanding for their right to live as anybody else,,, what to do now,,
maybe you can accomodate 1 and the rest of us, everybody!!! can we have choice?
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Ken_19: Cameron talking through his wig. England doesn't have the money to ship them all back. Neither does their homelands. Sure the cash could be scrapped up for a few dozen plane fulls. After that fuel and pilot/air crew and maintenance/security costs would be a big issue. Not to mention a minor problem (which the US has hit more than once when it tried such a policy), what do you do when the alleged country of origination refuses to accept them (or even give approval to land the plane)?
Face it, once an illegal alien arrives, or a self identified refugee, unless you are willing to just execute them, you are stuck with them.
Face it, once an illegal alien arrives, or a self identified refugee, unless you are willing to just execute them, you are stuck with them.
Just like the way USA had been stucked with the same problem,,they are digging tunnels/galeries as a passage to their destination, here they pass by the train tunnels hiding inside trucks & vans,,
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Lolette: It's like a yoyo tru,,,, they swing/swim back & forth,,, FRANCE have a lot to send to,,, and now Greece island ,,, cos,, they are hundreds and a lot are still coming,, angry and hungry, demanding for their right to live as anybody else,,, what to do now,, maybe you can accomodate 1 and the rest of us, everybody!!! can we have choice?
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lindsyjones: In terms of public policy and government deficits, an important figure is the aggregate annual deficit for all unlawful immigrant households. This equals the total benefits and services received by all unlawful immigrant households minus the total taxes paid by those households.
Under current law, all unlawful immigrant households together have an aggregate annual deficit of around $54.5 billion.
In the interim phase (roughly the first 13 years after amnesty), the aggregate annual deficit would fall to $43.4 billion.
At the end of the interim phase, former unlawful immigrant households would become fully eligible for means-tested welfare and health care benefits under the Affordable Care Act. The aggregate annual deficit would soar to around $106 billion
This is a fraction on the Immigration Reports by Redwine
.
You can easily access all the legal documents to prove it.
Don't act like you are ignorant. Even in a common sense term, you should know how a country suffers from the influx of ILLEGAL immigrants.
Under current law, all unlawful immigrant households together have an aggregate annual deficit of around $54.5 billion.
In the interim phase (roughly the first 13 years after amnesty), the aggregate annual deficit would fall to $43.4 billion.
At the end of the interim phase, former unlawful immigrant households would become fully eligible for means-tested welfare and health care benefits under the Affordable Care Act. The aggregate annual deficit would soar to around $106 billion
This is a fraction on the Immigration Reports by Redwine
.You can easily access all the legal documents to prove it.
Don't act like you are ignorant. Even in a common sense term, you should know how a country suffers from the influx of ILLEGAL immigrants.
Myth 5: Low-skilled workers take away jobs, lower salaries and hurt the economy.
As producers and consumers, illegal immigrants enlarge the economic pie by at least $36 billion a year. That number would triple if they were legal—various studies point to a $1 trillion impact on GDP in ten years. Low-skilled workers fulfill a need by taking jobs others do not want, letting natives move up the scale. Without them employers would need to pay higher salaries, making those products and services more expensive. They have a tiny negative effect on wages at the lowest end that is offset by a rise in the wages of those who move up—the net effect is a 1.8% rise.
Myth 7: Immigrants don´t pay taxes and cost more than they contribute.
Immigrants pay many local and state levies, including real estate and sales taxes, and about $7 billion in Social Security taxes. Between the 1970s and the 1990s they represented $25 billion more in government revenue than what they cost. They would contribute much more if they were documented. Most immigrant children have at least one parent who is a citizen, so counting all of them as part of the cost of immigration is deceptive. The welfare state was never a “pull” factor: until after World War II immigrants were not entitled to relief programs. Immigrants did not cause government spending to grow by a factor of 50 in one century.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/01/immigration-myths-debunked-forbes_n_3365811.html
Redwine?
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Cheaper for the farmer
Wrong Politically
Its trying times
Wrong Politically
Its trying times
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"We are under invasion"
KARMA is a wonderful thing
KARMA is a wonderful thing
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"We are under invasion"
KARMA is a wonderful thing
KARMA is a wonderful thing
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Jaymack: "We are under invasion"
KARMA is a wonderful thing
Nothing like a seadooKARMA is a wonderful thing
I dig go dirtbiking today.
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chatonlyman2: Nothing like a seadoo
I dig go dirtbiking today.
I dig go dirtbiking today.
Excellent
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it took over 500 years to paid the price for what they did
to others
to others
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Jaymack: Excellent
Thanks. It took many years to realize that most of the roads predate humans. ------ This thread is Archived ------
tomcatwarne: MPs on the committee warned holidaymakers could face huge queues at Eurotunnel and ferry ports when checks on passengers leaving Britain start on April 8.
Border chiefs have already pushed back the start date for the checks by one week to avoid introducing the new system over the busy Easter weekend.
Checks will involve operators recording passport information on all travellers and passing the details on to the Home Office, which will use the details to identify immigration offenders.
However, Sir Charles told MPs coach parties of children under 16 would be excluded to reduce delays.
lose the door they're coming in the windows. Many criminals are coming in.
He added: ‘The coach sector is the most difficult of all logistically and that has been the focus of trials and testing. We still have to refine the process to ensure it works as smoothly as possible. I’m confident we will have a solution come the live date.’
Calais is under pressure from more than 2,500 immigrants, many fleeing disasters in Africa and the Middle East. Often they are determined to reach the UK, attracted by work, free health care and generous benefits.
Many are ‘prepared to die’ to reach Britain, believing it to be like the mythical lost city of gold, El Dorado, according to Calais mayor Natacha Bouchart.
On October, a 16-year-old Ethiopian girl was killed when she was knocked down as she crossed the Channel Tunnel approach road.
Border chiefs have already pushed back the start date for the checks by one week to avoid introducing the new system over the busy Easter weekend.
Checks will involve operators recording passport information on all travellers and passing the details on to the Home Office, which will use the details to identify immigration offenders.
However, Sir Charles told MPs coach parties of children under 16 would be excluded to reduce delays.
lose the door they're coming in the windows. Many criminals are coming in.
He added: ‘The coach sector is the most difficult of all logistically and that has been the focus of trials and testing. We still have to refine the process to ensure it works as smoothly as possible. I’m confident we will have a solution come the live date.’
Calais is under pressure from more than 2,500 immigrants, many fleeing disasters in Africa and the Middle East. Often they are determined to reach the UK, attracted by work, free health care and generous benefits.
Many are ‘prepared to die’ to reach Britain, believing it to be like the mythical lost city of gold, El Dorado, according to Calais mayor Natacha Bouchart.
On October, a 16-year-old Ethiopian girl was killed when she was knocked down as she crossed the Channel Tunnel approach road.
sure you talking about ET`S......If instead of saucers, UFOs looked more like breasts, I’ll bet there’d be a lot more people trying to take pictures of them. ..
what invasion? 2000 people?..... how many millions live in europe?
analyze economics, see geo politics and forget hysteria !
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If we trace briefly the origin of man, we can find that the first humans on the planet were wanderers,, by feet in primitive times. With the progress/evolution, they form among them clans of the same race, with similar way of living, created their territorial limits thus forming later on a dense population,, the country ,,,
With the internet, nowadays people who are in the secluded areas who can have the access to it could easily apprehend/witness how the other part of the planet is in abundance,, over/wasteful way of consumption, while the other part of the planet is starving, by their own fault or by fate, but nothing really matters much when they are tempted to move out for survival and for the quest of a better life.Videos/photos can transmit illimited informations/knowledge.
Humans have never ending/limit when it comes to innovations, useful/harmful,,in which by extension could be the indirect/direct cause in the movements of population,, others call it KARMA,, my simple opinion says,,, it's a relativity ,,, who will assume ????
With the internet, nowadays people who are in the secluded areas who can have the access to it could easily apprehend/witness how the other part of the planet is in abundance,, over/wasteful way of consumption, while the other part of the planet is starving, by their own fault or by fate, but nothing really matters much when they are tempted to move out for survival and for the quest of a better life.Videos/photos can transmit illimited informations/knowledge.
Humans have never ending/limit when it comes to innovations, useful/harmful,,in which by extension could be the indirect/direct cause in the movements of population,, others call it KARMA,, my simple opinion says,,, it's a relativity ,,, who will assume ????
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KARMA meaning "you reep what you sow" or "if you piss in the wind it comes back at you twice as fast"
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Jaymack: KARMA meaning "you reep what you sow" or "if you piss in the wind it comes back at you twice as fast"
message recieved,,, karma can be on the spritual side,sometimes we often leave it to karma when we can't (humanly) handle a feeling of injustice , while relativity is on the down to earth term,,,
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Lolette: message recieved,,, karma can be on the spritual side,sometimes we often leave it to karma when we can't (humanly) handle a feeling of injustice , while relativity is on the down to earth term,,,
Very True
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The illegal immigrants’ issues have two sides at least:
Cost and benefit.
Have you ever read a scientific paper about them: both?
If you have, place the reference here, please.
Show me with numbers from a reliable source that the illegal immigrants in your country cost more than the benefits you get from them.
You've got to be joking.
Do you know that before the statistics were out on expenses incurred from medical alone, all these illegals are provided for medical benefits?
Now you talk like lawyer, you must be a corrupt one, if, you don't see the disadvantages of a country accepting illegals.