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Obstinance_Works: Much of the British working class that used to be toilet cleaners and factory workers are now this "pseudo middle class" that exists through debt and phantom industry. They're the cubicle farmers in inflated council offices paid for by excess public debt, they're the cashiers and managers in oversized shopping malls serviced by excess private debt. A whole plethora of non-jobs and unsustainable industries have been summoned into existence to create jobs for our dispossessed working class turned wannabe middle class.
And where they've not become this wannabe middle class that indirectly survives on debt through phantom industry, then they're more like Detroit where drugs, dysfunction and alcohol rule and the people directly survive on welfare/debt. Unfortunately I come from a place which went the way of Detroit, but 20-30 years ago most of our working class split into dysfunctional Detroits or this fake middle class which plagues us all and tips the balance of society permanently into the red.
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What about this for a Solution,everybody just go back to where they are from and we can all start again.
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BRIGHTON, England — To judge from the more strident news reports, it almost seems as if migrants gathered across the Channel from here are bent on a modern-day reversal of the Battle of Agincourt in 1415, when an army from England overran the French. At best, though, it is an uneven contest.
Today’s threadbare warriors — fugitives from newer war zones — have no visible lances, swords, ships, shields or longbows. They number only around 3,000, yet they stir alarm and fear in Britain, a nation of 60 million that once saw itself as a haven for the needy and oppressed, from the Jews of Germany and Russia to Muslims in flight from Idi Amin’s Uganda.
This time, though, some inner switch has been thrown, blocking the circuitry of compassion and replacing it with hard-nosed calculations about who should be embraced by Europe’s few resurgent economies.
That, perhaps, is why the British government announced plans to abolish subsistence payments to failed asylum seekers and to make it more difficult for illegal immigrants to rent homes — a signal to those in Calais to look elsewhere, and an effort to convince their own citizens that, despite all appearances to the contrary, the authorities have the crisis under control.
Since the failure of the Arab Spring to create anything close to a summer of content, the latest surge has written new chapters in a protracted chronicle of enforced migration in Europe provoked by successive waves of post-Cold War conflict since the 1990s.
“Starting with helping the French on their side of the border, we're going to put in more fencing, more resources, more sniffer dog teams, more assistance in any way we can,” Prime Minister David Cameron said.
But Britain’s response is seen by some critics as attacking the symptoms, not the cause, and Mr. Cameron’s remark conjured a far more recent historical parallel than Agincourt.
“If the British carry on like this,” the columnist Nick Cohen wrote in The Observer, “the Channel will become our Berlin Wall.”
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Today’s threadbare warriors — fugitives from newer war zones — have no visible lances, swords, ships, shields or longbows. They number only around 3,000, yet they stir alarm and fear in Britain, a nation of 60 million that once saw itself as a haven for the needy and oppressed, from the Jews of Germany and Russia to Muslims in flight from Idi Amin’s Uganda.
This time, though, some inner switch has been thrown, blocking the circuitry of compassion and replacing it with hard-nosed calculations about who should be embraced by Europe’s few resurgent economies.
That, perhaps, is why the British government announced plans to abolish subsistence payments to failed asylum seekers and to make it more difficult for illegal immigrants to rent homes — a signal to those in Calais to look elsewhere, and an effort to convince their own citizens that, despite all appearances to the contrary, the authorities have the crisis under control.
Since the failure of the Arab Spring to create anything close to a summer of content, the latest surge has written new chapters in a protracted chronicle of enforced migration in Europe provoked by successive waves of post-Cold War conflict since the 1990s.
“Starting with helping the French on their side of the border, we're going to put in more fencing, more resources, more sniffer dog teams, more assistance in any way we can,” Prime Minister David Cameron said.
But Britain’s response is seen by some critics as attacking the symptoms, not the cause, and Mr. Cameron’s remark conjured a far more recent historical parallel than Agincourt.
“If the British carry on like this,” the columnist Nick Cohen wrote in The Observer, “the Channel will become our Berlin Wall.”
Reference.
A version of this article appears in print on August 7, 2015, in The International New York Times. Order Reprints| Today's Paper|Subscribe
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Obstinance_Works: And where they've not become this wannabe middle class that indirectly survives on debt through phantom industry, then they're more like Detroit where drugs, dysfunction and alcohol rule and the people directly survive on welfare/debt. Unfortunately I come from a place which went the way of Detroit, but 20-30 years ago most of our working class split into dysfunctional Detroits or this fake middle class which plagues us all and tips the balance of society permanently into the red.
And this is why we heard so much about the "squeezed" middle since the recession. We in the middle class were obese and now we're being slimmed down(I'm not - I warrant my income and my job is worthy - but you probably are)to make us competitive.
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felixis99: No actually they do not have to. As a Sovereign nation they can handle illegal invaders in any way they see fit to handle any criminal activity. The one thing that illegals just do not seem to get is that they ARE criminals.. it's black and white.
Atrocities happens on BOTH sides in wars. it's just easier to poke the bear than it is to admit the snake was wrong too.
So that excuse is long past valid, if it ever was.
Atrocities happens on BOTH sides in wars. it's just easier to poke the bear than it is to admit the snake was wrong too.
So that excuse is long past valid, if it ever was.
Absolutley Felixis. Criminals and they are not assets as much as they are liabilities and whoever think any different is an idiot and ignorant.
Law is a law is a law. Violate it and the domino of expenses incurred in correcting it is astronomical.
Obs those points while very inviting as a social excuse, in total picture the country invaded by illegals suffer tremendously at the expense of the taxpayers. Period.
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lindsyjones: Absolutley Felixis. Criminals and they are not assets as much as they are liabilities and whoever think any different is an idiot and ignorant.
Law is a law is a law. Violate it and the domino of expenses incurred in correcting it is astronomical.
Obs those points while very inviting as a social excuse, in total picture the country invaded by illegals suffer tremendously at the expense of the taxpayers. Period.
Law is a law is a law. Violate it and the domino of expenses incurred in correcting it is astronomical.
Obs those points while very inviting as a social excuse, in total picture the country invaded by illegals suffer tremendously at the expense of the taxpayers. Period.
LOL lindsy ,,,
I don't know if you're trying to hit someone with your comment, but treating others who have a different stand and point of view as idiot and ignorant is somewhat of a mental hysteria. This thread is about illegal immigrants, and with these wave of people, there are criminals, for sure,, and there are honorable ones too,, just that they are caught in the wave of events that pushes them to fled.
There are humanitarian workers that are helping the countries' local forces in the organizational set-up, (almost all countries doesn't have ready measures and long time neglected this HUGE potential problem despite valid analysis of those who have the capacity to see it as it is coming.
Judging in generality this people as criminals and those that doesn't see it the way you does as idiots is not a good reflection of the image that your trying to project here,, i'm sorry,, but i always say what i think,,, There is the incapacity on the other hand on the politicians/leaders to anticipate such event,, and lack of financial capacity make the things more complicated.
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Lolette: LOL lindsy ,,,
I don't know if you're trying to hit someone with your comment, but treating others who have a different stand and point of view as idiot and ignorant is somewhat of a mental hysteria. This thread is about illegal immigrants, and with these wave of people, there are criminals, for sure,, and there are honorable ones too,, just that they are caught in the wave of events that pushes them to fled.
There are humanitarian workers that are helping the countries' local forces in the organizational set-up, (almost all countries doesn't have ready measures and long time neglected this HUGE potential problem despite valid analysis of those who have the capacity to see it as it is coming.
Judging in generality this people as criminals and those that doesn't see it the way you does as idiots is not a good reflection of the image that your trying to project here,, i'm sorry,, but i always say what i think,,, There is the incapacity on the other hand on the politicians/leaders to anticipate such event,, and lack of financial capacity make the things more complicated.
I don't know if you're trying to hit someone with your comment, but treating others who have a different stand and point of view as idiot and ignorant is somewhat of a mental hysteria. This thread is about illegal immigrants, and with these wave of people, there are criminals, for sure,, and there are honorable ones too,, just that they are caught in the wave of events that pushes them to fled.
There are humanitarian workers that are helping the countries' local forces in the organizational set-up, (almost all countries doesn't have ready measures and long time neglected this HUGE potential problem despite valid analysis of those who have the capacity to see it as it is coming.
Judging in generality this people as criminals and those that doesn't see it the way you does as idiots is not a good reflection of the image that your trying to project here,, i'm sorry,, but i always say what i think,,, There is the incapacity on the other hand on the politicians/leaders to anticipate such event,, and lack of financial capacity make the things more complicated.
And to add something ,, Some cause of this massive movements of population are resulting from "economic and political tyrany" from powerful nations manipulating everything for respective internal interests !!!
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Jaymack: What about this for a Solution,everybody just go back to where they are from and we can all start again.
That's a good proposal,, there's a lot of Jews and Irish in USA,, as well as in many other countries,, and lot more races too ,,, homecoming !!!
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Lolette: LOL lindsy ,,,
I don't know if you're trying to hit someone with your comment, but treating others who have a different stand and point of view as idiot and ignorant is somewhat of a mental hysteria. This thread is about illegal immigrants, and with these wave of people, there are criminals, for sure,, and there are honorable ones too,, just that they are caught in the wave of events that pushes them to fled.
There are humanitarian workers that are helping the countries' local forces in the organizational set-up, (almost all countries doesn't have ready measures and long time neglected this HUGE potential problem despite valid analysis of those who have the capacity to see it as it is coming.
Judging in generality this people as criminals and those that doesn't see it the way you does as idiots is not a good reflection of the image that your trying to project here,, i'm sorry,, but i always say what i think,,, There is the incapacity on the other hand on the politicians/leaders to anticipate such event,, and lack of financial capacity make the things more complicated.
I don't know if you're trying to hit someone with your comment, but treating others who have a different stand and point of view as idiot and ignorant is somewhat of a mental hysteria. This thread is about illegal immigrants, and with these wave of people, there are criminals, for sure,, and there are honorable ones too,, just that they are caught in the wave of events that pushes them to fled.
There are humanitarian workers that are helping the countries' local forces in the organizational set-up, (almost all countries doesn't have ready measures and long time neglected this HUGE potential problem despite valid analysis of those who have the capacity to see it as it is coming.
Judging in generality this people as criminals and those that doesn't see it the way you does as idiots is not a good reflection of the image that your trying to project here,, i'm sorry,, but i always say what i think,,, There is the incapacity on the other hand on the politicians/leaders to anticipate such event,, and lack of financial capacity make the things more complicated.
Lollette, they are criminals. They violate the law. I have no question about legal immigration but to not treat them as criminals, is not right. They are captured and they go to jail, why? Because they violated a very important law. ILLEGALS. Why don't you label them as they have committed a crime?
This is a very serious problem that needs to be addressed and unless they are treated as such, then why bother having a border. Open it and don't set up the bigotry of not treating them like criminals. They might be good people but this is not the issue.
They violate a law and therefore what?
Can you answer that?
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Lolette: And to add something ,, Some cause of this massive movements of population are resulting from "economic and political tyrany" from powerful nations manipulating everything for respective internal interests !!!
I am not a person that is callous and lacking compassion. I work for free at the Human Rights through United Nations. I haven't retired yet and I want to devout my time to the needs of the world vis a vis humanitarian causes. But I can't condone the fact that the illegal wave of immigration is my direction. I do have a -proposal for the needs of people to migrate. Increase the number of staff and manpower that process this and it is the prime responsibility of the country being invaded to put up a strict law on the processing of these criminals. Support the border. Now how can you sit and say that they are not criminals when they are? They are not killers or murderers, I have no issues on those. Nor do I have to find a way to make them look like angels either, but when it comes to the fundamentals of an international law or local, like Felixis said or any legal law, they are CRIMINALS.
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lindsyjones: I am not a person that is callous and lacking compassion. I work for free at the Human Rights through United Nations. I haven't retired yet and I want to devout my time to the needs of the world vis a vis humanitarian causes. But I can't condone the fact that the illegal wave of immigration is my direction. I do have a -proposal for the needs of people to migrate. Increase the number of staff and manpower that process this and it is the prime responsibility of the country being invaded to put up a strict law on the processing of these criminals. Support the border. Now how can you sit and say that they are not criminals when they are? They are not killers or murderers, I have no issues on those. Nor do I have to find a way to make them look like angels either, but when it comes to the fundamentals of an international law or local, like Felixis said or any legal law, they are CRIMINALS.
The clue is in the title ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS,
They are trying to invade the country THEY want to enter regardless of the wishes f the law And the indigenous population.
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tomcatwarne: The clue is in the title ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS,
They are trying to invade the country THEY want to enter regardless of the wishes f the law And the indigenous population.
They are trying to invade the country THEY want to enter regardless of the wishes f the law And the indigenous population.
Exactly Tom, which make them Criminals. I said over and over again, I have no questions about immigration, just don't do it illegally. No matter what we do, if it is in violation of a certain law, it makes the doer a criminal, there is no other way.
Now do I blame the immigrants? Yes but it is not entirely their fault because of human nature's inherent instinct to better themselves. When I was in Switzerland and the illegals were caught in the bus, they are deported immediately and fined enormously. It is a major responsibility of our country to protect the borders and punish the coyotes who abet them coming in illegally.
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The proportion of white British Londoners fell drastically from 60 percent in 2001 to 44.9 per cent in 2011, partly due to the arrival of so many foreign nationals and partly to a mass exodus of white Britons. David Goodhart, director of Demos, writes in The Financial Times:
Over the decade between the 2001 and 2011 censuses, the number of white British Londoners fell by more than 600,000 (17 per cent). That is about three times the fall over the previous census period, 1991 to 2001.
“Most of the leading academic geographers did not expect London to become a majority minority city for another 20 or 30 years – they underestimated the extent to which white British people have opted to leave an increasingly diverse London,” says Eric Kaufmann, an academic at Birkbeck College who is leading a project on “white flight” at Demos, the think-tank I lead.
Six hundred thousand is a big city disappearing in just 10 years.
Over the decade between the 2001 and 2011 censuses, the number of white British Londoners fell by more than 600,000 (17 per cent). That is about three times the fall over the previous census period, 1991 to 2001.
“Most of the leading academic geographers did not expect London to become a majority minority city for another 20 or 30 years – they underestimated the extent to which white British people have opted to leave an increasingly diverse London,” says Eric Kaufmann, an academic at Birkbeck College who is leading a project on “white flight” at Demos, the think-tank I lead.
Six hundred thousand is a big city disappearing in just 10 years.
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Mass immigration is a form of theft by the elites who permit it. It robs a people of their collective and individual sense of national security and an enjoyment of a culture and history in which all share.
Mundanely it steals from its people, and especially the poor, the things which are necessary for a decent life: housing at a decent price, schools which are near to where children live and which do not boast “96 languages are spoken here”, ready access to GPs and hospital treatment and well-paid jobs which have not had their wages suppressed through immigrant labour.
The whole business is made even more repulsive because the elites who inflict this on their people take good care to live in very white, and in England, very English, worlds whilst incessantly extolling the joy of diversity. These people know precisely what they are inflicting on others.
The answer to the migrants flooding across the Mediterranean is very simple: spend money on surveillance methods such as drones and satellites and a substantial fleet of fast manoeuvrable ships which can patrol the Mediterranean and intercept immigrant-laden boats and ships and tow them back from whence they came. The ideal would be to unload the migrants and then destroy the ships.
It is also probable that the drone and satellite surveillance would provide information on where human traffickers are assembling their passengers and where the boats likely to be used to transport them are harboured.
If so, action could be taken by the Western powers to destroy their boats whilst in harbour. Lest there be a wail against Western states interfering with Third World countries, those contemplating such a complaint should reflect on the palpable fact that the states from which the migrants are coming are either failed states or are actively conniving with the traffickers to get migrants from North Africa and the Middle East into Europe.
If such a scheme cost a billion pounds a year it would be cheap at the price. In fact if it cost ten billion a year it would be cheap. Such a scheme would be undeniably practical. All that is required is the political will, of elites and the governed in the West, to cast aside the politically correct mentality which says people must be allowed to come, must be saved from perils into they have placed themselves, regardless of the cost to the Western societies who have until now been expected to take them in.
Ref Robert Henderson/ Culture.
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Mundanely it steals from its people, and especially the poor, the things which are necessary for a decent life: housing at a decent price, schools which are near to where children live and which do not boast “96 languages are spoken here”, ready access to GPs and hospital treatment and well-paid jobs which have not had their wages suppressed through immigrant labour.
The whole business is made even more repulsive because the elites who inflict this on their people take good care to live in very white, and in England, very English, worlds whilst incessantly extolling the joy of diversity. These people know precisely what they are inflicting on others.
The answer to the migrants flooding across the Mediterranean is very simple: spend money on surveillance methods such as drones and satellites and a substantial fleet of fast manoeuvrable ships which can patrol the Mediterranean and intercept immigrant-laden boats and ships and tow them back from whence they came. The ideal would be to unload the migrants and then destroy the ships.
It is also probable that the drone and satellite surveillance would provide information on where human traffickers are assembling their passengers and where the boats likely to be used to transport them are harboured.
If so, action could be taken by the Western powers to destroy their boats whilst in harbour. Lest there be a wail against Western states interfering with Third World countries, those contemplating such a complaint should reflect on the palpable fact that the states from which the migrants are coming are either failed states or are actively conniving with the traffickers to get migrants from North Africa and the Middle East into Europe.
If such a scheme cost a billion pounds a year it would be cheap at the price. In fact if it cost ten billion a year it would be cheap. Such a scheme would be undeniably practical. All that is required is the political will, of elites and the governed in the West, to cast aside the politically correct mentality which says people must be allowed to come, must be saved from perils into they have placed themselves, regardless of the cost to the Western societies who have until now been expected to take them in.
Ref Robert Henderson/ Culture.
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lindsyjones: Lollette, they are criminals. They violate the law. I have no question about legal immigration but to not treat them as criminals, is not right. They are captured and they go to jail, why? Because they violated a very important law. ILLEGALS. Why don't you label them as they have committed a crime?
This is a very serious problem that needs to be addressed and unless they are treated as such, then why bother having a border. Open it and don't set up the bigotry of not treating them like criminals. They might be good people but this is not the issue.
They violate a law and therefore what?
Can you answer that?
This is a very serious problem that needs to be addressed and unless they are treated as such, then why bother having a border. Open it and don't set up the bigotry of not treating them like criminals. They might be good people but this is not the issue.
They violate a law and therefore what?
Can you answer that?
Lindsy,,, crimes and criminals have different faces and degree, it's on the evaluation on the gravity of the cause that these people should be condemned,, kindly take note that i was questioning your comment on calling others "idiot and ignorant" if we don't cater to your analysis.
And in your country,, since you are insisting the term criminal,, can your prisons could accomodate humanly this people , as they are punishable by your law, just don't forget it wasn't too long that your system there,, released a repetitive criminal/illegal immigrant,, resulting the death of a young lady.
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Lolette: Lindsy,,, crimes and criminals have different faces and degree, it's on the evaluation on the gravity of the cause that these people should be condemned,, kindly take note that i was questioning your comment on calling others "idiot and ignorant" if we don't cater to your analysis.
And in your country,, since you are insisting the term criminal,, can your prisons could accomodate humanly this people , as they are punishable by your law, just don't forget it wasn't too long that your system there,, released a repetitive criminal/illegal immigrant,, resulting the death of a young lady.
And in your country,, since you are insisting the term criminal,, can your prisons could accomodate humanly this people , as they are punishable by your law, just don't forget it wasn't too long that your system there,, released a repetitive criminal/illegal immigrant,, resulting the death of a young lady.
Lollette, let us stick on the subject matter, I was responding to the comment of Felixis that they are criminals having violated a fundamental and prime law. I addressed anyone who thinks otherwise is idiot and ignorant, if there is a better description I would be more than glad to use it, but deep inside of me, I think that is a very light description. Do you realize how seriously expensive it is on dealing with this crime?
If there is any specific case like the one you mentioned, it has nothing to do with the fact that this is about invasion.
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tomcatwarne: Mass immigration is a form of theft by the elites who permit it. It robs a people of their collective and individual sense of national security and an enjoyment of a culture and history in which all share.
Mundanely it steals from its people, and especially the poor, the things which are necessary for a decent life: housing at a decent price, schools which are near to where children live and which do not boast “96 languages are spoken here”, ready access to GPs and hospital treatment and well-paid jobs which have not had their wages suppressed through immigrant labour.
The whole business is made even more repulsive because the elites who inflict this on their people take good care to live in very white, and in England, very English, worlds whilst incessantly extolling the joy of diversity. These people know precisely what they are inflicting on others.
The answer to the migrants flooding across the Mediterranean is very simple: spend money on surveillance methods such as drones and satellites and a substantial fleet of fast manoeuvrable ships which can patrol the Mediterranean and intercept immigrant-laden boats and ships and tow them back from whence they came. The ideal would be to unload the migrants and then destroy the ships.
It is also probable that the drone and satellite surveillance would provide information on where human traffickers are assembling their passengers and where the boats likely to be used to transport them are harboured.
If so, action could be taken by the Western powers to destroy their boats whilst in harbour. Lest there be a wail against Western states interfering with Third World countries, those contemplating such a complaint should reflect on the palpable fact that the states from which the migrants are coming are either failed states or are actively conniving with the traffickers to get migrants from North Africa and the Middle East into Europe.
If such a scheme cost a billion pounds a year it would be cheap at the price. In fact if it cost ten billion a year it would be cheap. Such a scheme would be undeniably practical. All that is required is the political will, of elites and the governed in the West, to cast aside the politically correct mentality which says people must be allowed to come, must be saved from perils into they have placed themselves, regardless of the cost to the Western societies who have until now been expected to take them in.
Ref Robert Henderson/ Culture.
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Mundanely it steals from its people, and especially the poor, the things which are necessary for a decent life: housing at a decent price, schools which are near to where children live and which do not boast “96 languages are spoken here”, ready access to GPs and hospital treatment and well-paid jobs which have not had their wages suppressed through immigrant labour.
The whole business is made even more repulsive because the elites who inflict this on their people take good care to live in very white, and in England, very English, worlds whilst incessantly extolling the joy of diversity. These people know precisely what they are inflicting on others.
The answer to the migrants flooding across the Mediterranean is very simple: spend money on surveillance methods such as drones and satellites and a substantial fleet of fast manoeuvrable ships which can patrol the Mediterranean and intercept immigrant-laden boats and ships and tow them back from whence they came. The ideal would be to unload the migrants and then destroy the ships.
It is also probable that the drone and satellite surveillance would provide information on where human traffickers are assembling their passengers and where the boats likely to be used to transport them are harboured.
If so, action could be taken by the Western powers to destroy their boats whilst in harbour. Lest there be a wail against Western states interfering with Third World countries, those contemplating such a complaint should reflect on the palpable fact that the states from which the migrants are coming are either failed states or are actively conniving with the traffickers to get migrants from North Africa and the Middle East into Europe.
If such a scheme cost a billion pounds a year it would be cheap at the price. In fact if it cost ten billion a year it would be cheap. Such a scheme would be undeniably practical. All that is required is the political will, of elites and the governed in the West, to cast aside the politically correct mentality which says people must be allowed to come, must be saved from perils into they have placed themselves, regardless of the cost to the Western societies who have until now been expected to take them in.
Ref Robert Henderson/ Culture.
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Theft by the elites tom,,, it has a severe word ,,, manipulation on the part of the strong nations against the helpless/poor to cater to their interests. Why don't these elites don't fly to this arid zones and educate these people on how to produce locally (products) using the technology that this elite knows, why we don't want them to acquire technical know how and be self-sufficient? , like water and electricity to start with ,,
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Ref Uk News.
ritish trucker Tommy Harrison said he's stuck between a rock and a hard place - either he challenges migrants in his truck, or faces a £2,900 fine for each person police eject.
"Drivers are being stabbed," he added.
"I had a friend who suffered a cracked rib and broken eye socket as a result of being attacked.
"The problem is, if migrants are in the back, you can't really do anything.
"You've got two choices - get them out on your own, and there could be 30 of them, or take them to the border and let the police deal with them.
"But then drivers could face a fine of about £2,900 per person for having migrants in their vehicles. You can't win. You either face violence or face losing your home."
This is not Criminal????
ritish trucker Tommy Harrison said he's stuck between a rock and a hard place - either he challenges migrants in his truck, or faces a £2,900 fine for each person police eject.
"Drivers are being stabbed," he added.
"I had a friend who suffered a cracked rib and broken eye socket as a result of being attacked.
"The problem is, if migrants are in the back, you can't really do anything.
"You've got two choices - get them out on your own, and there could be 30 of them, or take them to the border and let the police deal with them.
"But then drivers could face a fine of about £2,900 per person for having migrants in their vehicles. You can't win. You either face violence or face losing your home."
This is not Criminal????
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lindsyjones: Lollette, let us stick on the subject matter, I was responding to the comment of Felixis that they are criminals having violated a fundamental and prime law. I addressed anyone who thinks otherwise is idiot and ignorant, if there is a better description I would be more than glad to use it, but deep inside of me, I think that is a very light description. Do you realize how seriously expensive it is on dealing with this crime?
If there is any specific case like the one you mentioned, it has nothing to do with the fact that this is about invasion.
If there is any specific case like the one you mentioned, it has nothing to do with the fact that this is about invasion.
Yup Lindsy,, right,, let's stick to the issue ,,, and you can go on calling those anyones idiot and ignorant, and the best suitable word you could find,, and of course i am aware of how costly it is to cope up with this problem,, here where i am,, we could no longer be safe in our towns, in the public transport, not mentioning the theft and individual aggressions, and the taxes that keep on increasing despite politicians promises, medical aids and care cost more that the citizens itself were covered at times,, ,, complicated sickness that needs complex treatment,,and if there's a solution to that,, i think it's high time that those bright guys should implement,, if they can ,,
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Obs,, are you insinuating that some those executives/managers don't merit to have their positions, but just there to exhaust funds from credits, and maybe to plastercast the unemployment of a specific/bracket of a social class propulsed to become what they shouldn't be? you're not tender with your analysis, merits are absent !!!,,