We are under invasion (112)
Lolette: Ref Uk News.
ritish trucker Tommy Harrison said he's stuck between a rock and a hard place - either he challenges migrants in his truck, or faces a £2,900 fine for each person police eject.
"Drivers are being stabbed," he added.
"I had a friend who suffered a cracked rib and broken eye socket as a result of being attacked.
"The problem is, if migrants are in the back, you can't really do anything.
"You've got two choices - get them out on your own, and there could be 30 of them, or take them to the border and let the police deal with them.
"But then drivers could face a fine of about £2,900 per person for having migrants in their vehicles. You can't win. You either face violence or face losing your home."
This is not Criminal????[/quote
Of course,that is a crime,, there was no argumentation on that,, what is the subject here is i think is the massive invasion and incapacity of the EU and the countries concerned to implement effective control,, that is taking into consideration too that frontiers in the UE now are open to any UE citizen, employed or unemployed,, in addition to hundreds who arrived by boats.
ritish trucker Tommy Harrison said he's stuck between a rock and a hard place - either he challenges migrants in his truck, or faces a £2,900 fine for each person police eject.
"Drivers are being stabbed," he added.
"I had a friend who suffered a cracked rib and broken eye socket as a result of being attacked.
"The problem is, if migrants are in the back, you can't really do anything.
"You've got two choices - get them out on your own, and there could be 30 of them, or take them to the border and let the police deal with them.
"But then drivers could face a fine of about £2,900 per person for having migrants in their vehicles. You can't win. You either face violence or face losing your home."
This is not Criminal????[/quote
Of course,that is a crime,, there was no argumentation on that,, what is the subject here is i think is the massive invasion and incapacity of the EU and the countries concerned to implement effective control,, that is taking into consideration too that frontiers in the UE now are open to any UE citizen, employed or unemployed,, in addition to hundreds who arrived by boats.
Tes but we are talking about people from outside the EU.
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tomcatwarne: Tes but we are talking about people from outside the EU.
sorry tom ,, a lapse ,, i just skip this,, UE citizens could get inside UK without any problem now,,
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Lolette: sorry tom ,, a lapse ,, i just skip this,, UE citizens could get inside UK without any problem now,,
Ok, 've been travelling around Europe for some time now, of course you have to have passport and prove means to support yourself, but they don't even stamp your passport now.
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tomcatwarne: Ok, 've been travelling around Europe for some time now, of course you have to have passport and prove means to support yourself, but they don't even stamp your passport now.
You can just drop under the radar and nobody looks for you.
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Lolette: Ref Uk News.
ritish trucker Tommy Harrison said he's stuck between a rock and a hard place - either he challenges migrants in his truck, or faces a £2,900 fine for each person police eject.
"Drivers are being stabbed," he added.
"I had a friend who suffered a cracked rib and broken eye socket as a result of being attacked.
"The problem is, if migrants are in the back, you can't really do anythi
"You've got two choices - get them out on your own, and there could be 30 of them, or take them to the border and let the police deal with them.
"But then drivers could face a fine of about £2,900 per person for having migrants in their vehicles. You can't win. You either face violence or face losing your home."
This is not Criminal????[/quote
Of course,that is a crime,, there was no argumentation on that,, what is the subject here is i think is the massive invasion and incapacity of the EU and the countries concerned to implement effective control,, that is taking into consideration too that frontiers in the UE now are open to any UE citizen, employed or unemployed,, in addition to hundreds who arrived by boats.
ritish trucker Tommy Harrison said he's stuck between a rock and a hard place - either he challenges migrants in his truck, or faces a £2,900 fine for each person police eject.
"Drivers are being stabbed," he added.
"I had a friend who suffered a cracked rib and broken eye socket as a result of being attacked.
"The problem is, if migrants are in the back, you can't really do anythi
"You've got two choices - get them out on your own, and there could be 30 of them, or take them to the border and let the police deal with them.
"But then drivers could face a fine of about £2,900 per person for having migrants in their vehicles. You can't win. You either face violence or face losing your home."
This is not Criminal????[/quote
Of course,that is a crime,, there was no argumentation on that,, what is the subject here is i think is the massive invasion and incapacity of the EU and the countries concerned to implement effective control,, that is taking into consideration too that frontiers in the UE now are open to any UE citizen, employed or unemployed,, in addition to hundreds who arrived by boats.
The fact of the matter is: It is a global problem for the first and the third world as of course only the third and the poverty stricken country that desire to get to a better place. I understand that, I even empathised with them. The problem is, it is not fair for those who worked and came in legally to be robbed off their effort by accepting them as though they didn't commit a crime.
So it is important to be concerned and direct our efforts to the very core of the problem.
That is all.
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Lolette: That's a good proposal,, there's a lot of Jews and Irish in USA,, as well as in many other countries,, and lot more races too ,,, homecoming !!!
Yea we love seeing our American Irish coming back as well.They never forget there root's,Fair play to them.
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Jaymack: Yea we love seeing our American Irish coming back as well.They never forget there root's,Fair play to them.
litle late JM,, Elvis Presley could have been around ,, he has in Irish blood in him,, I hould have been there for the spectacle ,, yeah,, good luck Irish,, good musicians ,, where is Dicky now?
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Lolette: litle late JM,, Elvis Presley could have been around ,, he has in Irish blood in him,, I hould have been there for the spectacle ,, yeah,, good luck Irish,, good musicians ,, where is Dicky now?
@should ,,, i mean Dickie Rock ,,,
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Lolette: @should ,,, i mean Dickie Rock ,,, he sings "there's always me" ,,
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Obstinance_Works: .
Btw this morning just getting out “home” I did let a vehicle to pass before I did and it was a brand new BMW and the one driving it was an elder nun!
And she did not look “desesperada”.
Yet, this evening in my way to a meeting to a 2 hrs driving rural place I did see a convoy of eleven militay vehicles with 24 tanks!
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lindsyjones: Classification on reasons for illegal is nothing that is within the guidelines of humanitarian. The effort of the United Nations are from those that are seeking assylum. The world is open to all the possibilities of those. Australia has an endless influx of Syrians and Middle East. The US is very inundated with political asylum seekers all over the world. We accommodated all the Mongs, Nepals, Vietnamese, and now the Somalians.
We have a very functional and tailored programs to assimilate them. Illegal immigration is not a part of this programs. We have proven more than many times the South Americans specially the Mexicans coming in throngs as illegals, not asylum seekers which is the focus of the humanitarian effort based in the UN programs.
We have a very functional and tailored programs to assimilate them. Illegal immigration is not a part of this programs. We have proven more than many times the South Americans specially the Mexicans coming in throngs as illegals, not asylum seekers which is the focus of the humanitarian effort based in the UN programs.
Asylum ,, Lindsy is a technical term,, it is general to all people seeking refuge,,wether it is political, economic, or claimatic,, but then when countries are not armed enough with accurate measures to manage such wave of movement, the length of time and human conditions they are going through in waiting,, then automatically, they have the tendency to seek their own ways, then in this manner they can fall on the category of illegal immigrants ,, that's how it passed actually here,,so they sneak, they hide, they rub,,etc,, and i have read that few of asylum seekers are accepted as political refugees ,, how much more of those who economic refugees ??? ,, well, we can debate dawn till night, but when we see the ralities/actualities,, it's far behind than what we have written here. This a problem that the society has to fight,,just like terrorism, unless we see them clearly as a collective problem, then individually we are helpless.
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lifeisadream: Illegal immigration is wrong -I have said that 74 times here- however, people need to know about their laws and acknowledge that being an illegal immigrant in USA is a CIVIL OFFENSE, they are not criminals by staying in USA without “papers”.
Besides that and most important!
Not everyone can see the meaning of “Human rights”
Besides that and most important!
Not everyone can see the meaning of “Human rights”
lifeisadream,, I have the notion to see the meaning of human rights in the fighting grounds than on definitions. I see how difficult it is to treat this situation on the actualities, but then, i think there's no use in crying individually and get panicked, if the respective governamental system is not realible enough, individually we can do nothing, and here where i am, possesion of firearms is strictly prohibited by law,, and so far, personally, don't have any problem with refugees,, legal or illegal ,, let's see it that way ,,,
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Lolette: Asylum ,, Lindsy is a technical term,, it is general to all people seeking refuge,,wether it is political, economic, or claimatic,, but then when countries are not armed enough with accurate measures to manage such wave of movement, the length of time and human conditions they are going through in waiting,, then automatically, they have the tendency to seek their own ways, then in this manner they can fall on the category of illegal immigrants ,, that's how it passed actually here,,so they sneak, they hide, they rub,,etc,, and i have read that few of asylum seekers are accepted as political refugees ,, how much more of those who economic refugees ??? ,, well, we can debate dawn till night, but when we see the ralities/actualities,, it's far behind than what we have written here. This a problem that the society has to fight,,just like terrorism, unless we see them clearly as a collective problem, then individually we are helpless.
Ref David Hamilton 1 hour ago.
Asked about preventing illegal migrants getting into the UK, Mr Cameron said: "A lot of people coming to Europe are coming in search of a better life.
"They are economic migrants and they want to enter Britain illegally and the British people and I want to make sure our borders are secure and you can't break into Britain without permission."
He also defended his recent use of the word "swarm" when describing migrants crossing the Mediterranean.
The Refugee Council, which works with refugees in the UK, has said his comments were "irresponsible" and "dehumanising".
But speaking on BBC Radio 4's Today programme, the prime minister said he believed voters would understand he was not trying to dehumanise people.
"I don't think it does dehumanise people. Look at what Britain's response has been.
"I made sure that we sent the Royal Navy flagship to the Mediterranean which has rescued thousands of people, saved thousands of lives," he said.
I support him .
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Lolette: Asylum ,, Lindsy is a technical term,, it is general to all people seeking refuge,,wether it is political, economic, or claimatic,, but then when countries are not armed enough with accurate measures to manage such wave of movement, the length of time and human conditions they are going through in waiting,, then automatically, they have the tendency to seek their own ways, then in this manner they can fall on the category of illegal immigrants ,, that's how it passed actually here,,so they sneak, they hide, they rub,,etc,, and i have read that few of asylum seekers are accepted as political refugees ,, how much more of those who economic refugees ??? ,, well, we can debate dawn till night, but when we see the ralities/actualities,, it's far behind than what we have written here. This a problem that the society has to fight,,just like terrorism, unless we see them clearly as a collective problem, then individually we are helpless.
Ref David Hamilton 1 hour ago.
Asked about preventing illegal migrants getting into the UK, Mr Cameron said: "A lot of people coming to Europe are coming in search of a better life.
"They are economic migrants and they want to enter Britain illegally and the British people and I want to make sure our borders are secure and you can't break into Britain without permission."
He also defended his recent use of the word "swarm" when describing migrants crossing the Mediterranean.
The Refugee Council, which works with refugees in the UK, has said his comments were "irresponsible" and "dehumanising".
But speaking on BBC Radio 4's Today programme, the prime minister said he believed voters would understand he was not trying to dehumanise people.
"I don't think it does dehumanise people. Look at what Britain's response has been.
"I made sure that we sent the Royal Navy flagship to the Mediterranean which has rescued thousands of people, saved thousands of lives," he said.
I support him .
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tomcatwarne: Ref David Hamilton 1 hour ago.
Asked about preventing illegal migrants getting into the UK, Mr Cameron said: "A lot of people coming to Europe are coming in search of a better life.
"They are economic migrants and they want to enter Britain illegally and the British people and I want to make sure our borders are secure and you can't break into Britain without permission."
He also defended his recent use of the word "swarm" when describing migrants crossing the Mediterranean.
The Refugee Council, which works with refugees in the UK, has said his comments were "irresponsible" and "dehumanising".
But speaking on BBC Radio 4's Today programme, the prime minister said he believed voters would understand he was not trying to dehumanise people.
"I don't think it does dehumanise people. Look at what Britain's response has been.
"I made sure that we sent the Royal Navy flagship to the Mediterranean which has rescued thousands of people, saved thousands of lives," he said.I support him .
Asked about preventing illegal migrants getting into the UK, Mr Cameron said: "A lot of people coming to Europe are coming in search of a better life.
"They are economic migrants and they want to enter Britain illegally and the British people and I want to make sure our borders are secure and you can't break into Britain without permission."
He also defended his recent use of the word "swarm" when describing migrants crossing the Mediterranean.
The Refugee Council, which works with refugees in the UK, has said his comments were "irresponsible" and "dehumanising".
But speaking on BBC Radio 4's Today programme, the prime minister said he believed voters would understand he was not trying to dehumanise people.
"I don't think it does dehumanise people. Look at what Britain's response has been.
"I made sure that we sent the Royal Navy flagship to the Mediterranean which has rescued thousands of people, saved thousands of lives," he said.I support him .
Obviously,your PM minister had found the solution, trust in your government, it's their lookout to protect you as a citizen,, so be it ,,
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lifeisadream: Illegal immigration is wrong -I have said that 74 times here- however, people need to know about their laws and acknowledge that being an illegal immigrant in USA is a CIVIL OFFENSE, they are not criminals by staying in USA without “papers”.
Besides that and most important!
Not everyone can see the meaning of “Human rights”
Besides that and most important!
Not everyone can see the meaning of “Human rights”
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. These acts of improper entry -- including the mythic "border jumping" -- are criminal acts associated with illegally immigrating to the United States.
You read and paste only the ones that serve your points. If you read all the acts associated in illegal entering, the article above says it is A CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. By the way ARIZONA in your ignorance has already flatly CRIMINALIZED illegal entry.
Don't be so naive and ignorant. In the old definition and condition of illegal entry yes, that was when the circumstances were different.
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ritish trucker Tommy Harrison said he's stuck between a rock and a hard place - either he challenges migrants in his truck, or faces a £2,900 fine for each person police eject.
"Drivers are being stabbed," he added.
"I had a friend who suffered a cracked rib and broken eye socket as a result of being attacked.
"The problem is, if migrants are in the back, you can't really do anything.
"You've got two choices - get them out on your own, and there could be 30 of them, or take them to the border and let the police deal with them.
"But then drivers could face a fine of about £2,900 per person for having migrants in their vehicles. You can't win. You either face violence or face losing your home."
This is not Criminal????[/quote
Of course,that is a crime,, there was no argumentation on that,, what is the subject here is i think is the massive invasion and incapacity of the EU and the countries concerned to implement effective control,, that is taking into consideration too that frontiers in the UE now are open to any UE citizen, employed or unemployed,, in addition to hundreds who arrived by boats.