MASSACRE' ON COLLEGE CAMPUS IN U.S. ( Archived) (117)

Oct 2, 2015 9:21 AM CST MASSACRE' ON COLLEGE CAMPUS IN U.S.
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
Obstinance_Works: This emo/gothic/grunge I'm so middle class I want to kill myself and everyone around me does form the underside of this plastic stepford wives culture of America. You get emo kids and stepford wives everywhere, but not to the same extent.


Broken dreams I expect play a part, too. You're told to dream big in middle class America, but the American dream is dead, and therefore when you don't achieve your dreams you feel like a spectacular failure. Or you begin to feel that it's not even worth trying in the world and you start to hate that world for making you feel so insignificant.

Americans put too much pressure on their kids ignorant to the reality that the world is no longer a walk in the park.
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Oct 2, 2015 9:23 AM CST MASSACRE' ON COLLEGE CAMPUS IN U.S.
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Oct 2, 2015 9:29 AM CST MASSACRE' ON COLLEGE CAMPUS IN U.S.
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
Obstinance_Works: Broken dreams I expect play a part, too. You're told to dream big in middle class America, but the American dream is dead, and therefore when you don't achieve your dreams you feel like a spectacular failure. Or you begin to feel that it's not even worth trying in the world and you start to hate that world for making you feel so insignificant.

Americans put too much pressure on their kids ignorant to the reality that the world is no longer a walk in the park.


A materialistic culture of plastic self-interest and egoism works when you have a bountiful frontier of opportunities before you. But without the frontier and all the possibilities for life that brings many people get left behind. Without the easy money and easy opportunity you need to look to your fellow man for some sense of purpose in life. Yet finding purpose in other people as opposed to raw self-interest is not a thing the Americans are good it.
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Oct 2, 2015 9:29 AM CST MASSACRE' ON COLLEGE CAMPUS IN U.S.
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
Obstinance_Works: A materialistic culture of plastic self-interest and egoism works when you have a bountiful frontier of opportunities before you. But without the frontier and all the possibilities for life that brings many people get left behind. Without the easy money and easy opportunity you need to look to your fellow man for some sense of purpose in life. Yet finding purpose in other people as opposed to raw self-interest is not a thing the Americans are good it.


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Oct 2, 2015 9:42 AM CST MASSACRE' ON COLLEGE CAMPUS IN U.S.
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
Obstinance_Works: A materialistic culture of plastic self-interest and egoism works when you have a bountiful frontier of opportunities before you. But without the frontier and all the possibilities for life that brings many people get left behind. Without the easy money and easy opportunity you need to look to your fellow man for some sense of purpose in life. Yet finding purpose in other people as opposed to raw self-interest is not a thing the Americans are good it.


I know many Americans believe in Jesus but that's an intellectual topping which means nothing. They don't behave at all spiritually and Americans come with a functional atheism of self-interest unequalled in any secular state.

This is the culture which merges Jesus Christ with Ayn Rand for political ends. If you know anything about either then you know how completely false and duplicitous it is to do this. It does come anymore plastic and unreal than this. And if these are you so-called spiritual people then what hope is there?
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Oct 2, 2015 9:54 AM CST MASSACRE' ON COLLEGE CAMPUS IN U.S.
Obstinance_Works: I know many Americans believe in Jesus but that's an intellectual topping which means nothing. They don't behave at all spiritually and Americans come with a functional atheism of self-interest unequalled in any secular state.

This is the culture which merges Jesus Christ with Ayn Rand for political ends. If you know anything about either then you know how completely false and duplicitous it is to do this. It does come anymore plastic and unreal than this. And if these are you so-called spiritual people then what hope is there?
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Oct 2, 2015 11:13 AM CST MASSACRE' ON COLLEGE CAMPUS IN U.S.
purr4mance
purr4mancepurr4manceCleveland, Ohio USA4,825 Posts
galrads: I will always understand that guns don't kill, people do. The actual subject is not guns. The subject is always overlooked. MENTAL HEALTH is the root cause of the issue.

I wonder, did our president offer any thoughts or prayers for victims and families effected by this NUT CASE or did he just take another opportunity to attack our 2nd amendment rights?



President Obama said, "May God bless the memories of those who were killed today. May he bring comfort to their families and courage to the injured as they fight their way back. And may he give us the strength to come together and find the courage to change"
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Oct 2, 2015 11:16 AM CST MASSACRE' ON COLLEGE CAMPUS IN U.S.
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
mollybaby: Could it because society is more medicated, and full of unnatural chemicals than before?

In a world where children are medicated for behaving like children, sadness is treated with drugs, etc. Etc. Is it not surprising that people are acting contrary to what we consider normal behaviour to be?


Enforced normality is a police state of mind.
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Oct 2, 2015 12:02 PM CST MASSACRE' ON COLLEGE CAMPUS IN U.S.
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
ooby_dooby: ... A picture of Mr. Mercer holding a rifle appeared on a MySpace page with a post expressing a deep interest in the Irish Republican Army. It included footage from the conflict in Northern Ireland set to “The Men Behind the Wire,” an Irish republican song, and several pictures of gunmen in black balaclavas. Another picture showed the front page of "An Phoblacht", the party newspaper of Sinn Fein, the former political wing of the I.R.A.


Reminds me of Lee Harvey Oswald. They managed to come up with a photo of him holding a many months old copy of Pravda, carrying his Garcano rifle with a scope that officially had not yet been mounted on the gun and standing at an angle that defies gravity (provided that the fence posts and house were indeed vertical).




The obviously faked photo was used as "proof" that Oswald was a commie gun nut. Important in establishing the lone-nut theory of the assassination.

Photos that "say it all" are very suspect when it comes to political agendas like presidential assassinations or the nullification of constitutional rights.

This school shooting may very well be another Sandy Hoax.
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Oct 2, 2015 12:33 PM CST MASSACRE' ON COLLEGE CAMPUS IN U.S.
serena123
serena123serena123durban, KwaZulu-Natal South Africa44 Threads 2 Polls 2,821 Posts
stringman: yes it is sad. what is making these kids want to kill.

Drugs?? Which most kids take these days.. Scary, these are our future leadersdoh
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Oct 2, 2015 1:49 PM CST MASSACRE' ON COLLEGE CAMPUS IN U.S.
OutsideofBali
OutsideofBaliOutsideofBaliBaden, Aargau Switzerland112 Posts
Here are some really intersting facts and connections regarding school shootings and gun control in general:

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Oct 3, 2015 12:28 AM CST MASSACRE' ON COLLEGE CAMPUS IN U.S.
purr4mance
purr4mancepurr4manceCleveland, Ohio USA4,825 Posts
Quinn Glen Cooper of Roseburg, age 18. In a statement issued Friday, his family wrote that "Quinn was funny, sweet, compassionate and such a wonderful loving person."

"He always stood up for people," the statement reads. He was going to take his brown belt test next week, and loved dancing and voice acting and playing Ingress with his older brother, Cody.

"Our lives are shattered beyond repair," his family wrote. We send our condolences to all the families who have been so tragically affected by this deranged gunman. No one should ever have to feel the pain we are feeling. Please remember the victims and their families. Please remember Quinn."

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Lucas Eibel of Roseburg, 18. A statement by his family says that Eibel, who was studying chemistry, loved Future Farmers of America and volunteering at Wildlife Safari and Saving Grace animal shelter.

"He was an amazing soccer player," a family statement reads. His family also noted his academic achievements, including graduating Roseburg High School with high academic marks, receiving a Ford Family Foundation scholarship, and receiving an Umpqua Community College scholars award.

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Lawrence Levine of Glide, 67, was an assistant professor of English at the college. Levine was a member of Steamboaters, a fly fishing and conservation group.

Dale Greenley, a fellow member of the group said Levine was an avid fisherman who used to be a guide on the north Umpqua River.

"He was kind of quiet and laid back, he didn't say much," Greenley said. "But he was a good writer."

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Sarena Dawn Moore of Myrtle Creek, age 44, was a member of Grants Pass Seventh-day Adventist Church, which had a post on its Facebook page mourning her death.

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Treven Taylor Anspach of Sutherlin, age 20.

In a written statement read by officials, his family said that he was "one of the most positive young men, always looking for the best in life."

"Treven was larger than life and brought out the best in those around him," his family wrote.

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Rebecka Ann Carnes of Myrtle Creek, age 18. U.S. Sen. Jeff Merkley, D-Oregon, said that Carnes is the great-granddaughter of his first cousin. In a written statement, Merkley wrote: "Rebecka's beautiful spirit will be enormously missed."

A GoFundMe site has been set up for Carnes by her cousin, Lisa Crawford at As of Friday afternoon, the site had raised more than $1,200 to help Carnes' parents "with Becka's final expenses."

"I am so grateful to have had the opportunity to have watched Becka grow up," Crawford wrote on the site. "She had just started a new job and college classes. This isn't how life is supposed to work and I am struggling to wrap my mind around the entire situation."

Crawford asked said that the people in Carnes' life "loved her fiercely and are devastated."

"Don't let life ever become so busy that you don't have a moment to stop and be kind to someone," Crawford wrote. "Let love and gentleness shine in the wake of this violence."
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Oct 3, 2015 12:37 AM CST MASSACRE' ON COLLEGE CAMPUS IN U.S.
BerrySmoothie
BerrySmoothieBerrySmoothieMy Retreat, Auckland New Zealand3 Threads 4,733 Posts
An horrific unnecessary tragedy...rose rose rose
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Oct 3, 2015 2:59 PM CST MASSACRE' ON COLLEGE CAMPUS IN U.S.
The question was "Do you believe a person with mental disorders like Mr Mercer should be allowed to own a gun?" Yes or No?


Conrad73: so,how come the mandatory Background-Checks in Oregon didn't suss him out?


Instead of answering the question you evade the question with another question. Why am I not surprised?
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Oct 3, 2015 3:25 PM CST MASSACRE' ON COLLEGE CAMPUS IN U.S.
Willow3939
Willow3939Willow3939Greer, South Carolina USA8 Threads 2 Polls 799 Posts
ooby_dooby: The question was "Do you believe a person with mental disorders like Mr Mercer should be allowed to own a gun?" Yes or No?

Instead of answering the question you evade the question with another question. Why am I not surprised?



I'll answer it. No. Mentally unstable people have no business owning guns. Owning a gun is a great responsibility. It is a privilege not a right.
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Oct 3, 2015 3:53 PM CST MASSACRE' ON COLLEGE CAMPUS IN U.S.
thelad2007
thelad2007thelad2007Waterford, Ireland645 Posts
another dreadful tragedy but just another statistic which will be added to soon. unfortunately it looks like this one will never be solved. i hope american kids are making the best of their lives as theres a high chance they ll become apart of this statistic in the future.
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Oct 3, 2015 4:03 PM CST MASSACRE' ON COLLEGE CAMPUS IN U.S.
Willow3939: I'll answer it. No. Mentally unstable people have no business owning guns. Owning a gun is a great responsibility. It is a privilege not a right.

I think you better read that 2nd Amendment in the Bill of RIGHTS again!doh
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Oct 3, 2015 4:06 PM CST MASSACRE' ON COLLEGE CAMPUS IN U.S.
Conrad73: I think you better read that 2nd Amendment in the Bill of RIGHTS again!

The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution reads: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Nowhere does it state to be a Privilege,always refers to a Right,which Government is not to infringe on!
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