Out Of Control Teenager or is it about A Police Officer Who is Out of Control ( Archived) (45)

Oct 28, 2015 7:05 PM CST Out Of Control Teenager or is it about A Police Officer Who is Out of Control
secretagent09
secretagent09secretagent09New Jersey Girl in, North Carolina USA198 Threads 4 Polls 7,230 Posts
Aragorn11: Hope you're well.



And you too hug
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Oct 28, 2015 7:09 PM CST Out Of Control Teenager or is it about A Police Officer Who is Out of Control
I don't know how a lot of kids this age are in other countries, but here in the U.S. we have a huge problem of the kids thinking they are in control.They have this entitlement mindset, everybody owes them something.Much of this behavior stems to parents who are divorced and the children end up being spoiled rotten. This incident started with the girl not getting off of the cellphone, she was disrupting the class etc. Maybe the school district should not allow the students to have cellphones at school. My generation did fine without cellphones in school, or using them while we drove.It's sad what happened here, but the fact is, the girl should have gotten off of the phone when the teacher told her. She didn't, then a higher up (assistant principal?) asked her and still she didn't comply so a resources officer was called . I think what set hime off was she hit the officer with her fist and the rest is history. If children don't want to learn to respect elders or authority, most likely they will end up in prison at some point.
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Oct 28, 2015 7:49 PM CST Out Of Control Teenager or is it about A Police Officer Who is Out of Control
Jaymack
JaymackJaymackMonaghan, Ireland37 Threads 800 Posts
Child beater and out of control now jobless Bully,jail him.
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Oct 28, 2015 8:22 PM CST Out Of Control Teenager or is it about A Police Officer Who is Out of Control
Public schools allow special needs students in all classes,
some students should be on medication.
My younger sister had her nose broke in two places by a classmate.
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Oct 28, 2015 8:39 PM CST Out Of Control Teenager or is it about A Police Officer Who is Out of Control
langleygirl
langleygirllangleygirlWestlock, Alberta Canada70 Threads 8,202 Posts
]Have to wonder why these kids are allowed their cell phone's during school instruction periods in the first place. I think they are both at fault, but truly when it comes to school why are these places so out of control that police are even required? School is a privilege and I think sometimes we coddle our kids too much and they need a reality check as to what the real world is all about. They don't always get their way and there are consequences to their choices.
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Oct 28, 2015 8:39 PM CST Out Of Control Teenager or is it about A Police Officer Who is Out of Control
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
Jaymack: Child beater and out of control now jobless Bully,jail him.


Mt Eden.
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Oct 29, 2015 1:56 AM CST Out Of Control Teenager or is it about A Police Officer Who is Out of Control
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
Jaymack: Child beater and out of control now jobless Bully,jail him.
and the NRA want armed guards in schools , there is no doubt that this example of human excreta would be one . Its long past time that those that have a warrant to police have a measurable intellect .
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Oct 29, 2015 4:03 AM CST Out Of Control Teenager or is it about A Police Officer Who is Out of Control
TheRedSquirrel87
TheRedSquirrel87TheRedSquirrel87Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK1 Threads 1,107 Posts
secretagent09: (CNN)The South Carolina deputy who slammed a disruptive student on the floor and tossed her several feet has been fired.

Other students in the classroom at Spring Valley High School caught the incident on video.

Fields violated police regulations when he threw the girl, the sheriff said.

Fields was the Spring Valley High School resource officer whose actions Monday were recorded by students and ignited a firestorm on social media. Among the criticisms: his admitted use of "muscling techniques" to get the student out of her chair.

"When a classroom is disrupted by a student, that disrupts the education process and the students can't learn and the teachers can't teach," Lott said. "We have to have discipline in our schools."

"We must not lose sight that this whole incident started by this student," he said. "She is responsible for initiating this action. Some responsibility falls on her."

The videos show the officer standing over the student, seated at her desk. He puts his arm near her neck, then yanks her backward. The desk, which is attached to her chair, tips over; the student crashes backward onto the floor.

But Fields didn't let go, lifting her slightly off the ground. She flies out of her desk and slides several feet across the floor.

But Todd Rutherford, the student's attorney, said his client now has to wear a cast on her arm.

The girl also suffered a bruise on her head, her attorney said.

Fields was called in, Kenny said. The school resource officer asked the girl to leave the classroom with him.

Kenny said the officer moved the girl's laptop off her desk.

"He grabbed her arm, and he put his arm around her neck at first. So that's why you actually see her -- if you get the right video -- then you'll see her trying to swing at him," Kenny said.

"And at that point, he just flipped the desk back and grabbed her out of it and threw her. And that's when you see her rolling across the floor."

Kenny said she and other classmates had their cell phones recording because of the officer's reputation.

Her attorney, Simone Martin, said she's been told "by a number of the students that he is referred to as Officer Slam as opposed to Officer Fields. And that's telling."

The sheriff said the FBI is also to be the lead agency in a criminal investigation.

If an officer decides to make an arrest, he or she "can use whatever force is necessary," said Houck, a retired New York police detective.

"So if you don't comply with my wishes," he said, "then I can do whatever it takes to get you out of that seat and put handcuffs on you."

Sheriff criticizes law on disrupting school
Houck said the officer shouldn't have been called in to deal with the student in the first place.

Sheriff: Resource officer shouldn't be a disciplinarian
"Too often, these teachers in these schools are calling on the cops because they have a disruptive student in the classroom," he said. "This is not a cop's job."

Police in schools: Why are they there?

But South Carolina has a law that muddles the role of school resource officers, the sheriff said.

"Unfortunately, our Legislature passed a law that's called 'disturbing schools,' " he said.

"If a student disturbs school -- and that's a wide range of activities, 'disturbing schools' -- they can be arrested. Our goal has always been to see what we can do without arresting the kids. We don't need to arrest these students. We need to keep them in schools."

CNN's Dana Ford, Kevin Conlon, Chandler Friedman, Wes Bruer, Greg Botelho, Lisa Thompson and Sonia Moghe contributed to this report.


No excuse for that. If he was around that girl all the time blew a fuse and lamped her one straight to the moon then I'd have more sympathy. If it had been the teacher I'd have more sympathy, but no he's lost control in minutes.
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Oct 29, 2015 4:36 AM CST Out Of Control Teenager or is it about A Police Officer Who is Out of Control
MikeD12
MikeD12MikeD12Broadstairs, Kent, England UK16 Threads 2 Polls 2,809 Posts
Having seen what he did he should be instantly sacked for misconduct rather than put on gardening leave and jailed without trial.
BUT thanks to the American legal system you can bet there will be a method of reducing his crime exploited by a defence lawyer, but regardless, that is exactly what it was.
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Oct 29, 2015 5:37 AM CST Out Of Control Teenager or is it about A Police Officer Who is Out of Control
rebel2
rebel2rebel2Alicante, Valencia Spain8 Threads 6,354 Posts
Irrespective whether the parents were good parents, or her cat got ran over, or her age, the officer acted in a totally unprofessional manner.
If there was a need to eject her, which it appears may have be the case, as it seems she was not going to comply, then by using safe techniques, she could have been ejected.
Apart from her attitude she was not a physical threat and therefor his actions were well in excess of what was required.
As far as the childish comment made regards all police officers all over the world being thugs, then lets disband the police services around the world and see what happens. roll eyes
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Oct 29, 2015 7:20 AM CST Out Of Control Teenager or is it about A Police Officer Who is Out of Control
CapNemo
CapNemoCapNemoLongview, Texas USA6 Threads 599 Posts
Had she done as she was told, she wouldn't have been in that situation. No sympathy here.
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Oct 29, 2015 8:19 AM CST Out Of Control Teenager or is it about A Police Officer Who is Out of Control
secretagent09
secretagent09secretagent09New Jersey Girl in, North Carolina USA198 Threads 4 Polls 7,230 Posts
CapNemo: Had she done as she was told, she wouldn't have been in that situation. No sympathy here.



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Oct 29, 2015 8:30 AM CST Out Of Control Teenager or is it about A Police Officer Who is Out of Control
secretagent09
secretagent09secretagent09New Jersey Girl in, North Carolina USA198 Threads 4 Polls 7,230 Posts
rebel2: Irrespective whether the parents were good parents, or her cat got ran over, or her age, the officer acted in a totally unprofessional manner.
If there was a need to eject her, which it appears may have be the case, as it seems she was not going to comply, then by using safe techniques, she could have been ejected.
Apart from her attitude she was not a physical threat and therefor his actions were well in excess of what was required.
As far as the childish comment made regards all police officers all over the world being thugs, then lets disband the police services around the world and see what happens.




Yes, the officer was unprofessional, more then that, he could have seriously injured her.

How would you have "ejected" her by using a safe technique? My suggestion is he should have pulled the chair to the hallway with her in it and handled the situation away from other students.

However, if he did that, there wouldn't be a video of what he may have done to her in the hallway.
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Nov 1, 2015 2:16 PM CST Out Of Control Teenager or is it about A Police Officer Who is Out of Control
unlaoised
unlaoisedunlaoisedTwilight zone, Wicklow Ireland34 Threads 12,152 Posts
Nov 1, 2015 2:37 PM CST Out Of Control Teenager or is it about A Police Officer Who is Out of Control
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts

I don't see how the second video exonerates the police officer.

The student understandably hit out after he grabbed her around her neck.

It was a pathetic little girly paw punch at a well built bloke who coaches football. I doubt he even felt it, particularly as he didn't appear to react to it.

He, on the other hand threw her about like a rag doll for being naughty in class.

I wonder if the students' protest involved another element, such as they were irritated by this girl's (maybe longterm) disruptive behaviour, or had a dislike for her, rather than being objective about an appropriate, or ethical way for professionals to behave towards minors. dunno
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Nov 1, 2015 3:05 PM CST Out Of Control Teenager or is it about A Police Officer Who is Out of Control
unlaoised
unlaoisedunlaoisedTwilight zone, Wicklow Ireland34 Threads 12,152 Posts
jac_the_gripper: I don't see how the second video exonerates the police officer.

The student understandably hit out after he grabbed her around her neck.

It was a pathetic little girly paw punch at a well built bloke who coaches football. I doubt he even felt it, particularly as he didn't appear to react to it.

He, on the other hand threw her about like a rag doll for being naughty in class.

I wonder if the students' protest involved another element, such as they were irritated by this girl's (maybe longterm) disruptive behaviour, or had a dislike for her, rather than being objective about an appropriate, or ethical way for professionals to behave towards minors.


I don't think he's been exonerated, has he? confused
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Nov 1, 2015 3:14 PM CST Out Of Control Teenager or is it about A Police Officer Who is Out of Control
secretagent09
secretagent09secretagent09New Jersey Girl in, North Carolina USA198 Threads 4 Polls 7,230 Posts
jac_the_gripper: I taught my daughter that it's inexcusable to behave like the police officer did.

What an appalling role model he is to use physical violence when he didn't get his own way, rather than behaving like a grown-up.



Did you also teach her that it's inexcusable to behave like the student did?

Police officers aren't hired to be role models in the U.S. They are hired to protect the people from harms way, at times to help an old lady across the street. Sometimes they join in events and sporting games to interact with children but they aren't there to be a role model.

Role models are parents! Not police officers. Not sports players.

It's not a matter of him not getting "his own way". It's about doing what a police officer tells you to do. If you do it, it just may save your life.

She is a brat. She was testing him to see what she could get away with. She played with the wrong officer and now he has lost him job because a weak teacher didn't know how to control her classroom.

I honestly think the other students should have jumped in and taken the phone from her before Officer Fields got there.

When a police officer tells you to jump, you say, how high.

The officer is the law!!!!!!
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Nov 1, 2015 4:12 PM CST Out Of Control Teenager or is it about A Police Officer Who is Out of Control
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
secretagent09: Did you also teach her that it's inexcusable to behave like the student did?

Police officers aren't hired to be role models in the U.S. They are hired to protect the people from harms way, at times to help an old lady across the street. Sometimes they join in events and sporting games to interact with children but they aren't there to be a role model.

Role models are parents! Not police officers. Not sports players.

It's not a matter of him not getting "his own way". It's about doing what a police officer tells you to do. If you do it, it just may save your life.

She is a brat. She was testing him to see what she could get away with. She played with the wrong officer and now he has lost him job because a weak teacher didn't know how to control her classroom.

I honestly think the other students should have jumped in and taken the phone from her before Officer Fields got there.

When a police officer tells you to jump, you say, how high.

The officer is the law!!!!!!

Police officers aren't above the law. If they break the law, they have to face the consequences just like everyone else. Assault is against the law.

And of course police officers are role models. We all are. I can't help thinking no wonder kids in the US behave badly if that's the example they're set to follow.

As for teaching my daughter not to use her mobile phone in class, when there was a school rule about turning it off, the teachers taught her that rule. When she was in art college she used it in class all the time for internet access for research purposes as her teacher required. It wasn't up to me to say when she could and couldn't use it - it was up to the school, or college and her tutors.
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Nov 1, 2015 4:14 PM CST Out Of Control Teenager or is it about A Police Officer Who is Out of Control
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
unlaoised: I don't think he's been exonerated, has he?

No, I was referring to the tone and content of the article you cited.
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Nov 1, 2015 11:35 PM CST Out Of Control Teenager or is it about A Police Officer Who is Out of Control
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
secretagent09: Did you also teach her that it's inexcusable to behave like the student did?

Police officers aren't hired to be role models in the U.S. They are hired to protect the people from harms way, at times to help an old lady across the street. Sometimes they join in events and sporting games to interact with children but they aren't there to be a role model.

Role models are parents! Not police officers. Not sports players.

It's not a matter of him not getting "his own way". It's about doing what a police officer tells you to do. If you do it, it just may save your life.

She is a brat. She was testing him to see what she could get away with. She played with the wrong officer and now he has lost him job because a weak teacher didn't know how to control her classroom.

I honestly think the other students should have jumped in and taken the phone from her before Officer Fields got there.

When a police officer tells you to jump, you say, how high.

The officer is the law!!!!!!
The officer is not the law , he is a piece of crap and never should have been in the job in the first place . The matter that other children knew he was a peace of crap throws light on a bigger problem that people like you Monty accept this behaviour and excuse the likes of this dirty officer as normal . There is NO EXCUSE for the way the peace of crap behaved and you continue to blame the victim . This makes me think you have been or are connected now or in the past to such a rotten person as the officer .
to your health Monty .
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