If God Exists, Why is there Suffering ( Archived) (37)

Nov 15, 2015 11:10 AM CST If God Exists, Why is there Suffering
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts


the question came up in the Paris attack thread ; if there is a GOD why does HE allow suffering. this clip is 56 min. long may help to explain it.
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Nov 15, 2015 11:27 AM CST If God Exists, Why is there Suffering
Babettefr
BabettefrBabettefrLa France, Pays de la Loire France13 Threads 1,955 Posts
stringman: the question came up in the Paris attack thread ; if there is a GOD why does HE allow suffering. this clip is 56 min. long may help to explain it.



String,

I don't have the nerve and the patience to listen to this things before and it's not now that i have to.

Why this sufferings happen? Exactly because too many people believe and listen that GOD exists,,, it's just like saying i believe in what i don't know and see,, and listening almost everyday this non sense you end up believing and do what you're ask to do in the name of whom/what GOD is there.

Man must be able to think for himself and understand for himself,, he was born to be ,,, if you/we subjected yourselves to the preachings of others,, then you distance yourself from your own conviction and follow the will of others, and yet,, so many followed, this would lead us to believe that some are weak and can be manipulated and some have the complete control of their minds.
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Nov 15, 2015 11:34 AM CST If God Exists, Why is there Suffering
KremaP
KremaPKremaPAt home, Shumen Bulgaria3,793 Posts
Why blame God for what people do???
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Nov 15, 2015 11:38 AM CST If God Exists, Why is there Suffering
unlaoised
unlaoisedunlaoisedTwilight zone, Wicklow Ireland34 Threads 12,152 Posts
KremaP: Why blame God for what people do???


Isn't god supposed to be the one in control? confused
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Nov 15, 2015 11:43 AM CST If God Exists, Why is there Suffering
KremaP
KremaPKremaPAt home, Shumen Bulgaria3,793 Posts
unlaoised: Isn't god supposed to be the one in control?





God(religion) is people's creation...so all they do is their will and their responsibility...
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Nov 15, 2015 11:44 AM CST If God Exists, Why is there Suffering
Willow3939
Willow3939Willow3939Greer, South Carolina USA8 Threads 2 Polls 799 Posts
Even though I am no longer a Christian, I believe in a higher power and she is female. Our creator never promised an easy life living in paradise. We are not guaranteed a bailout every time things get tough. It is up to us to live our lives and find our own solutions to our problems.

But my Goddess is always with me to hold me in times of sorrow and rejoice with me in the good times.

Our creator gave us free will. As such, man is able to act and make his own decisions. Unfortunately, there are bad people who will act selfishly and with total disregard to his fellow man. This behavior cannot be changed, but it must be dealt with under the confines of our laws.
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Nov 15, 2015 11:44 AM CST If God Exists, Why is there Suffering
KremaP: Why blame God for what people do???


God created people and universe

bouquet
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Nov 15, 2015 11:45 AM CST If God Exists, Why is there Suffering
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
unlaoised: Isn't god supposed to be the one in control?


That depends on what your interpretation of 'god' is.
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Nov 15, 2015 11:46 AM CST If God Exists, Why is there Suffering
unlaoised
unlaoisedunlaoisedTwilight zone, Wicklow Ireland34 Threads 12,152 Posts
KremaP: God(religion) is people's creation...so all they do is their will and their responsibility...


Very true....it's people's creation thumbs up
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Nov 15, 2015 11:48 AM CST If God Exists, Why is there Suffering
KremaP
KremaPKremaPAt home, Shumen Bulgaria3,793 Posts
guysimple: God created people and universe






I strongly doubt it, He can't create such a bunch of misunderstandings...
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Nov 15, 2015 11:49 AM CST If God Exists, Why is there Suffering
imo god is asleep, and when he wakes up your done
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Nov 15, 2015 11:50 AM CST If God Exists, Why is there Suffering
unlaoised
unlaoisedunlaoisedTwilight zone, Wicklow Ireland34 Threads 12,152 Posts
bodleing2: That depends on what your interpretation of 'god' is.


I don't really have one. I just find it interesting that when things are good..."god" is given the credit for it. When things go badly....it's not "his" fault

confused confused
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Nov 15, 2015 11:51 AM CST If God Exists, Why is there Suffering
Babettefr
BabettefrBabettefrLa France, Pays de la Loire France13 Threads 1,955 Posts
Willow3939: Even though I am no longer a Christian, I believe in a higher power and she is female. Our creator never promised an easy life living in paradise. We are not guaranteed a bailout every time things get tough. It is up to us to live our lives and find our own solutions to our problems.

But my Goddess is always with me to hold me in times of sorrow and rejoice with me in the good times.

Our creator gave us free will. As such, man is able to act and make his own decisions. Unfortunately, there are bad people who will act selfishly and with total disregard to his fellow man. This behavior cannot be changed, but it must be dealt with under the confines of our laws.


Creating and giving free will to those that don't have the capacity to remain a good creation in the image to his creator,, is at the same time destroying of what he created, because humans are destroying evrything around his existence including virtues, the planet,, and his fellow humans.
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Nov 15, 2015 11:53 AM CST If God Exists, Why is there Suffering
rebel2
rebel2rebel2Alicante, Valencia Spain8 Threads 6,354 Posts
If you cannot face reality, believe in a God.
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Nov 15, 2015 11:53 AM CST If God Exists, Why is there Suffering
KremaP: I strongly doubt it, He can't create such a bunch of misunderstandings...


Unfortunately All holly books tell this.


What do you think??
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Nov 15, 2015 11:54 AM CST If God Exists, Why is there Suffering
Babettefr
BabettefrBabettefrLa France, Pays de la Loire France13 Threads 1,955 Posts
pedro27: imo god is asleep, and when he wakes up your done


in my own sense,, god should not fall asleep as he knows what he has created,, yet he let those people do what they want,, innocents were suffering and dying ,, explain that to deaf and blind !!!
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Nov 15, 2015 11:57 AM CST If God Exists, Why is there Suffering
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
stringman: the question came up in the Paris attack thread ; if there is a GOD why does HE allow suffering. this clip is 56 min. long may help to explain it.

Because he/she likes to be called, by us mortals.
""""In the name of God"""
""Stop suffering"",
and if all suffering stops at once,
who's going to called him/her.-?????
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Nov 15, 2015 11:59 AM CST If God Exists, Why is there Suffering
KremaP
KremaPKremaPAt home, Shumen Bulgaria3,793 Posts
guysimple: Unfortunately All holly books tell this.What do you think??






Exactly, Holly books, written by people...Do I need to say more...?!
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Nov 15, 2015 12:01 PM CST If God Exists, Why is there Suffering
Babettefr
BabettefrBabettefrLa France, Pays de la Loire France13 Threads 1,955 Posts
guysimple: Unfortunately All holly books tell this.What do you think??


does god knows how to write? ,,,

Humans before and now? what's the difference,, ? they have the same capacity to remain a good individual and a rotten one ,, manipulating weak minds to arrive to their desires ,, just that the struggle is measured on the value of times and elements that are presently existing in their respective eras ,,
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Nov 15, 2015 12:01 PM CST If God Exists, Why is there Suffering
Willow3939
Willow3939Willow3939Greer, South Carolina USA8 Threads 2 Polls 799 Posts
Babettefr: Creating and giving free will to those that don't have the capacity to remain a good creation in the image to his creator,, is at the same time destroying of what he created, because humans are destroying evrything around his existence including virtues, the planet,, and his fellow humans.


Agreed. It is a flawed system, but it is our reality that we are living in. All we can do is hold the bad people accountable under the confines of our laws.
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