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Jan 4, 2016 6:46 PM CST Obama executive actions on guns coming Tuesday
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
The White House announced it will unveil President Obama’s promised executive orders Tuesday morning on “common sense” gun control, but Second Amendment advocates and Republicans in Congress say “not so fast.”

They’re gearing up for a battle that will extend to the legislative branch and the courts.


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Jan 4, 2016 6:55 PM CST Obama executive actions on guns coming Tuesday
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
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Jan 4, 2016 7:02 PM CST Obama executive actions on guns coming Tuesday
bohemianjack
bohemianjackbohemianjackEast Central, Minnesota USA6 Threads 2 Polls 2,701 Posts
I think everyone should have access to an assault rifle, and be able to sell guns to whomever they choose.. doh
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Jan 4, 2016 7:04 PM CST Obama executive actions on guns coming Tuesday
pedalguy59
pedalguy59pedalguy59Burlington, Ontario Canada28 Threads 1 Polls 6,976 Posts
bohemianjack: I think everyone should have access to an assault rifle, and be able to sell guns to whomever they choose..


...and explosivesapplause
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Jan 4, 2016 7:37 PM CST Obama executive actions on guns coming Tuesday
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
bohemianjack: I think everyone should have access to an assault rifle, and be able to sell guns to whomever they choose..


Not unlike Obama and Hillary, I let my hired gunned body guards worry about that.
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Jan 4, 2016 7:37 PM CST Obama executive actions on guns coming Tuesday
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
bohemianjack: I think everyone should have access to an assault rifle, and be able to sell guns to whomever they choose..


Not unlike Obama and Hillary, I let my hired gunned body guards worry about that.
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Jan 4, 2016 9:05 PM CST Obama executive actions on guns coming Tuesday
bohemianjack
bohemianjackbohemianjackEast Central, Minnesota USA6 Threads 2 Polls 2,701 Posts
galrads: Not unlike Obama and Hillary, I let my hired gunned body guards worry about that.


Under current law, only federally licensed gun dealers must conduct background checks on buyers, but anyone wanting to avoid all that can just buy guns at informal settings where sellers aren't considered dealers, and therefore not licensed or required to perform background checks.. hmmm
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Jan 4, 2016 9:30 PM CST Obama executive actions on guns coming Tuesday
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
bohemianjack: Under current law, only federally licensed gun dealers must conduct background checks on buyers, but anyone wanting to avoid all that can just buy guns at informal settings where sellers aren't considered dealers, and therefore not licensed or required to perform background checks..



And you think any of obamas ideas like this will do anything to prevent terrorists from obtaining and using guns, like he says? hmmm
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Jan 4, 2016 9:45 PM CST Obama executive actions on guns coming Tuesday
crayons
crayonscrayonsSt. Jo, Texas USA65 Threads 1,951 Posts
o'nero the muslim in chief and his brother malik fund and arm the muzrats, it's all about jarett,soros,lynch,etc.anyone remember holders fast and furious...over 100,000 folks dead over the drug wars... we really need to keep our powder dry and not fall into the media narrative,

General Michael Flynn “President Knowingly and Willingly Armed ISIS”

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Jan 4, 2016 10:00 PM CST Obama executive actions on guns coming Tuesday
bohemianjack
bohemianjackbohemianjackEast Central, Minnesota USA6 Threads 2 Polls 2,701 Posts
crayons: o'nero the muslim in chief and his brother malik fund and arm the muzrats, it's all about jarett,soros,lynch,etc.anyone remember holders fast and furious...over 100,000 folks dead over the drug wars... we really need to keep our powder dry and not fall into the media narrative,

General Michael Flynn “President Knowingly and Willingly Armed ISIS”

Has Civil War Begun In America? Trump Tells America Clinton And Obama Created ISIS, It's Surely The Season Of Treason - Why Are Obama And Clinton Still Walking The Streets?


Yeah Crayon, send it to your CONgressman.. mumbling
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Jan 4, 2016 10:27 PM CST Obama executive actions on guns coming Tuesday
crayons
crayonscrayonsSt. Jo, Texas USA65 Threads 1,951 Posts
bohemianjack: Yeah Crayon, send it to your CONgressman..

huh? this is Texas we're ahead of the curve we have open carry/conceal carry. Liberty is a responsibility, we're all involved here... and it's peaceful here except fer the doper zones, would encourage all of you to write yer own reps, thanks and have a nice day
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Jan 4, 2016 10:37 PM CST Obama executive actions on guns coming Tuesday
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
crayons: huh? this is Texas we're ahead of the curve we have open carry/conceal carry. Liberty is a responsibility, we're all involved here... and it's peaceful here except fer the doper zones, would encourage all of you to write yer own reps, thanks and have a nice day



Ohio has always been an open carry state.
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Jan 4, 2016 10:48 PM CST Obama executive actions on guns coming Tuesday
bohemianjack
bohemianjackbohemianjackEast Central, Minnesota USA6 Threads 2 Polls 2,701 Posts
crayons: huh? this is Texas we're ahead of the curve we have open carry/conceal carry. Liberty is a responsibility, we're all involved here... and it's peaceful here except fer the doper zones, would encourage all of you to write yer own reps, thanks and have a nice day


Dopers don't open/conceal carry?.. roll eyes
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Jan 4, 2016 11:33 PM CST Obama executive actions on guns coming Tuesday
bohemianjack
bohemianjackbohemianjackEast Central, Minnesota USA6 Threads 2 Polls 2,701 Posts
rizlared: Exactly,too little too late.

America is being controlled by a group of unelected people, but that is okay, while the leader, who wants to create sensible laws to protect the people, is laughed at.

Who cares about the deaths? After all, we are 6 days into 2016 and no children have been killed.


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Jan 5, 2016 12:03 PM CST Obama executive actions on guns coming Tuesday
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
here is his speech today.



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Jan 5, 2016 12:46 PM CST Obama executive actions on guns coming Tuesday
crayons
crayonscrayonsSt. Jo, Texas USA65 Threads 1,951 Posts
galrads: Ohio has always been an open carry state.


never knew it, is that for new firearms as well?
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Jan 5, 2016 12:53 PM CST Obama executive actions on guns coming Tuesday
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
CNN)President Barack Obama grew emotional Tuesday as he made a passionate call for a national "sense of urgency" to limit gun violence.

He was introduced by Mark Barden, whose son Daniel was killed in the 2012 massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut. Obama circled back to that shooting in the final moments of his speech.

"Every time I think about those kids, it gets me mad," Obama said, pausing to wipe away tears.

He added: "And by the way, it happens on the streets of Chicago every day," referring to his hometown where he began his political career.

The White House is introducing a new requirement that would expand background checks for buyers. The measure mandates that individuals "in the business of selling firearms" register as licensed gun dealers, effectively narrowing the so-called "gun show loophole," which exempts most small sellers from keeping formal sales records.

Former Congresswoman and gun control advocate Gabby Giffords, who was seriously injured in a 2011 mass shooting, was also in attendance at Tuesday's event and was greeted with a standing ovation from the White House audience.

Obama hammered congressional Republicans for opposing measures like expanded background checks as he called on Americans to punish them at the polls. He defended his actions to strengthen background checks for purchasing guns, answering critics who say the measure would not make it harder for criminals to obtain firearms.

"Each time this comes up, we are fed the excuse that common-sense reforms like background checks might not have stopped the last massacre, or the one before that, or the one before that, so why bother trying," Obama said. "I reject that thinking."

"We know we can't stop every act of violence, every act of evil in the world. But maybe we could try to stop one act of evil, one act of violence," he added.

The President blasted the gun lobby, particularly the National Rifle Association, and insisted that his actions are "not a plot to take away everybody's guns."

He compared his push for gun control to steps the United States and businesses have taken to limit traffic fatalities, require fingerprints to unlock iPads and keep children from opening bottles of aspirin.

"I believe in the Second Amendment, there written on paper, that guarantees the right to bear arms," Obama said. "No matter how many times people try to twist my words around, that's our constitutional law. I know a little bit about this. But I also believe that we can find ways to reduce gun violence consistent with the Second Amendment."

Obama said Congress, which blocked a tougher gun bill in 2013, still needs to impose new gun control measures. He noted that many of the actions he's calling for can only be imposed through legislative action.

"Congress still needs to act," Obama said. "The folks in this room will not rest until Congress does. Because once Congress gets on board with common-sense gun safety measures, we can reduce gun violence a whole lot."

"But we also can't wait," Obama added. "Until we have the Congress that's in line with the majority of Americans, there are actions within my legal authority that we can take to help reduce gun violence and save more lives."

In addition to expanding and bolstering the background check system to cover sales that take place online and at gun shows, Obama said the administration will provide more funding for mental health treatment, FBI staff and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco Firearms and Explosives agents.

On Capitol Hill, the reaction from Republicans was just as Obama had predicted.

House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wisconsin, said Obama's actions "will no doubt be challenged in the courts" and "can be overturned by a Republican President."
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Jan 5, 2016 1:01 PM CST Obama executive actions on guns coming Tuesday
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
crayons: never knew it, is that for new firearms as well?


Yes. I used to hunt varmint years ago and always carried a sidearm holstered open on my belt in case the critters attacked me or for mercy shots.
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Jan 5, 2016 1:39 PM CST Obama executive actions on guns coming Tuesday
Da_Moose
Da_MooseDa_MooseWestlock, Alberta Canada57 Threads 1,839 Posts
bohemianjack: I think everyone should have access to an assault rifle, and be able to sell guns to whomever they choose..


Assault rifles are for those who are piss-poor shots! Signed a Civil war,....geezuz....where is my powder=horn, veteran!
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Jan 5, 2016 1:47 PM CST Obama executive actions on guns coming Tuesday
Da_Moose
Da_MooseDa_MooseWestlock, Alberta Canada57 Threads 1,839 Posts
Ikkigai: and enriched uranium


Rookie purchase...try weapons grade plutonium.
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