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The Australians, aged between 49 and 79, are among nine Westerners whose cases were uncovered by the ABC's 7.30 program earlier this year and who have been locked up in Hong Kong for as long as 15 months on drug smuggling charges that could see them imprisoned for the rest of their lives.
All nine alleged drug smugglers claim to have been lured by a West African crime syndicate which grooms vulnerable people online into taking an all-expenses-paid trip to Hong Kong on the lure of a financial deal, a romance, an inheritance or a humanitarian project.
Top law enforcement officials have told 7.30 drug syndicates have scammed or coerced scores of the elderly, frail, brain damaged, mentally ill and juveniles from here and abroad into smuggling drugs to be sold on the lucrative Australian black market.
The Australians, aged between 49 and 79, are among nine Westerners whose cases were uncovered by the ABC's 7.30 program earlier this year and who have been locked up in Hong Kong for as long as 15 months on drug smuggling charges that could see them imprisoned for the rest of their lives.
All nine alleged drug smugglers claim to have been lured by a West African crime syndicate which grooms vulnerable people online into taking an all-expenses-paid trip to Hong Kong on the lure of a financial deal, a romance, an inheritance or a humanitarian project.
Top law enforcement officials have told 7.30 drug syndicates have scammed or coerced scores of the elderly, frail, brain damaged, mentally ill and juveniles from here and abroad into smuggling drugs to be sold on the lucrative Australian black market.
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So the topic is what is.
feel free to talk about what you want.
I hope you will not bully me.
feel free to talk about what you want.
I hope you will not bully me.
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I think the point I am trying to make is, you asked the question and expressed a sort of dislike for every warning given back to you by the good fair minded members who have offered a response to your inquiry.
Nobody is trying to bully you, however you can expect long term members of these forum to express there opinions whether you agree or not doesn't matter, as everyone has equal right to there views on here and that's how it should be I think
welcome to the forums
Nobody is trying to bully you, however you can expect long term members of these forum to express there opinions whether you agree or not doesn't matter, as everyone has equal right to there views on here and that's how it should be I think
welcome to the forums
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Southwestcoast: So the topic is what is.
feel free to talk about what you want.I hope you will not bully me.
feel free to talk about what you want.I hope you will not bully me.
There is no question that one needs a thicker skin here.
What is missing, is voice inflection, so it comes across harsher
than it really is.
I have noticed through life thatin most things, everyone is an expert except me.
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Kaybee50: I'll take the pressie please!
for Kaybee(and don't worry about sending your address, i'll bring it with me when i manage to visit...)
the good news about getting gifts for folks you know...is that i do know what you would like....
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like you haven't had enough opinions yet....
so here's mine...
yup...it's weird.
multiple choice for you.
a) i wouldn't even give a gift to a local person if they were asking for one.
b) don't send info or money or gifts to folks on line that you really don't know yet..if it's real....the opportunity will come by again.
c) if it's only 10-15 dollars....you may get just as much enjoyment by giving a gift to someone you know...or give it to a complete stranger...pick a bus stop, a grocery line up, the gas station, infinite opportunities....
d) donate the money to a local cause
e) buy yourself something
f) if it's not a yes, it's a no
g) i just spent too much time thinking about this....
and if your motivation is the 'exchange' and you're gonna get something...that's not a gift...that's a trade.
so here's mine...
yup...it's weird.
multiple choice for you.
a) i wouldn't even give a gift to a local person if they were asking for one.
b) don't send info or money or gifts to folks on line that you really don't know yet..if it's real....the opportunity will come by again.
c) if it's only 10-15 dollars....you may get just as much enjoyment by giving a gift to someone you know...or give it to a complete stranger...pick a bus stop, a grocery line up, the gas station, infinite opportunities....
d) donate the money to a local cause
e) buy yourself something
f) if it's not a yes, it's a no
g) i just spent too much time thinking about this....
and if your motivation is the 'exchange' and you're gonna get something...that's not a gift...that's a trade.
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Better not to believe. Be cautious
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mamoii: Better not to believe. Be cautious
The whole point of dating sites is taking risks.. If you're looking for guarantees, buy a toaster!!!
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online today!Southwestcoast: I enjoy this thread due to the many replies and most have been kind and thoughtful. Forum discussions with people you don't know can be difficult, but is interesting.
Oh I did read the scammer warnings and it says nothing about a situation like this.
BTW, this is not even a situation. To me this seems like a kind gesture, maybe cultural, in which I might lose a buck or two. Heck I wasn't asked to send 1000 dollars. If any of you who replied to this thread would ask to swap gifts, I'd find that that really nice and I would consider it. Which I am now.
Anyways, let me get make things clearer. Could there be any threats receiving mail/parcels and such?
Cheers
Oh I did read the scammer warnings and it says nothing about a situation like this.
BTW, this is not even a situation. To me this seems like a kind gesture, maybe cultural, in which I might lose a buck or two. Heck I wasn't asked to send 1000 dollars. If any of you who replied to this thread would ask to swap gifts, I'd find that that really nice and I would consider it. Which I am now.
Anyways, let me get make things clearer. Could there be any threats receiving mail/parcels and such?
Cheers
I have thru out my time here sent small gifts to friends on here and tho not costly, to mail the package can be.
But worth every penny. It was to people whom I had gotten to know. And they did not ask for the gift I wanted to send it to them. And I got A gift back also! I would not send anything and most likely would not even read anymore contact from the person if they had asked or suggested within the first couple of emails. That is just me. I would be suspicious 
With that being said I want to add in life never give more than you can afford to lose. And don't expect nothing for giving. That is what makes it a real gift.
Could there be any threats sending mail or parcels. Yes there are. People have been known to get injured opening what could appear to be harmless packages. To the point of death. Also people have ended up in jail for participating in crimes they did not even know they were participating in. Why would someone do something like that you ask? Because it is the world we live in today. Not everyone is nice. And they don't have to have a reason to be mean. We don't have to live in constant fear but it doesn't hurt to be smart when dealing with strangers. Hope all goes well for you and you get a wonderful trinklet in the end.
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Happygolucky4u: I have thru out my time here sent small gifts to friends on here and tho not costly, to mail the package can be. But worth every penny. It was to people whom I had gotten to know. And they did not ask for the gift I wanted to send it to them. And I got A gift back also! I would not send anything and most likely would not even read anymore contact from the person if they had asked or suggested within the first couple of emails. That is just me. I would be suspicious
With that being said I want to add in life never give more than you can afford to lose. And don't expect nothing for giving. That is what makes it a real gift.
Could there be any threats sending mail or parcels. Yes there are. People have been known to get injured opening what could appear to be harmless packages. To the point of death. Also people have ended up in jail for participating in crimes they did not even know they were participating in. Why would someone do something like that you ask? Because it is the world we live in today. Not everyone is nice. And they don't have to have a reason to be mean. We don't have to live in constant fear but it doesn't hurt to be smart when dealing with strangers. Hope all goes well for you and you get a wonderful trinklet in the end.
With that being said I want to add in life never give more than you can afford to lose. And don't expect nothing for giving. That is what makes it a real gift.
Could there be any threats sending mail or parcels. Yes there are. People have been known to get injured opening what could appear to be harmless packages. To the point of death. Also people have ended up in jail for participating in crimes they did not even know they were participating in. Why would someone do something like that you ask? Because it is the world we live in today. Not everyone is nice. And they don't have to have a reason to be mean. We don't have to live in constant fear but it doesn't hurt to be smart when dealing with strangers. Hope all goes well for you and you get a wonderful trinklet in the end.
My ex wife was a great housekeeper, she kept my house
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online today!allthegoodnamest: My ex wife was a great housekeeper, she kept my house
That was nice of her. Wish someone had of kept my money pit 
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Happygolucky4u: That was nice of her. Wish someone had of kept my money pit
She left me so poor, I couldn't even pay attention.
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What do you think?
i think you should seek advice someplace other then this nut house...
i think you should seek advice someplace other then this nut house...
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Hi, I think that person was trying to scam you
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Southwestcoast: Hey all!
I might not spend a lot of time here since I'm not a forum guy, but advices are always nice.
So, I got in contact with some people here and one person suggested we exchange gifts - only after like 2 quick emails. Isn't that somewhat weird?
Should I have reasons to suspect there is something fishy going on? I'd like to think it's a nice gesture, but one might need to be cautious these days.
What do you think?
I might not spend a lot of time here since I'm not a forum guy, but advices are always nice.
So, I got in contact with some people here and one person suggested we exchange gifts - only after like 2 quick emails. Isn't that somewhat weird?
Should I have reasons to suspect there is something fishy going on? I'd like to think it's a nice gesture, but one might need to be cautious these days.
What do you think?
Yes, it's weird.
After 2 emails?
That's weird even for here.
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Southwestcoast: You are the first person telling me I am easy and lonely but thanks for your reply.
I agree with your point;no one should judge person in saying things like your naive and lonely....Genuine people are generally speaking a bit naive at the start,without having previous experiences with dating site and scammers who wants your private email address so they can sell it to other scammers,than eventually they build your peofile of likes and dislikes,they gradually work on you until some scammer achieve it's goal to get $ from you....Scammers usually steal pictures from good looking people that can be anybody ordinary or from Facebook or magazine so yes it can be hard to trust I think you can recognize genuine person true not forcing anything but just happy to be conversation without expectations....Good luck !
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Happygolucky4u: I have thru out my time here sent small gifts to friends on here and tho not costly, to mail the package can be. But worth every penny. It was to people whom I had gotten to know. And they did not ask for the gift I wanted to send it to them. And I got A gift back also! I would not send anything and most likely would not even read anymore contact from the person if they had asked or suggested within the first couple of emails. That is just me. I would be suspicious
With that being said I want to add in life never give more than you can afford to lose. And don't expect nothing for giving. That is what makes it a real gift.
Could there be any threats sending mail or parcels. Yes there are. People have been known to get injured opening what could appear to be harmless packages. To the point of death. Also people have ended up in jail for participating in crimes they did not even know they were participating in. Why would someone do something like that you ask? Because it is the world we live in today. Not everyone is nice. And they don't have to have a reason to be mean. We don't have to live in constant fear but it doesn't hurt to be smart when dealing with strangers. Hope all goes well for you and you get a wonderful trinklet in the end.
With that being said I want to add in life never give more than you can afford to lose. And don't expect nothing for giving. That is what makes it a real gift.
Could there be any threats sending mail or parcels. Yes there are. People have been known to get injured opening what could appear to be harmless packages. To the point of death. Also people have ended up in jail for participating in crimes they did not even know they were participating in. Why would someone do something like that you ask? Because it is the world we live in today. Not everyone is nice. And they don't have to have a reason to be mean. We don't have to live in constant fear but it doesn't hurt to be smart when dealing with strangers. Hope all goes well for you and you get a wonderful trinklet in the end.
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You look like Mats Sundin...what could go wrong!!
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Christianlatin: Hi I definitely suggest you to be wise and cautious about online relationships and take time to read their profiles. One thing is that we can commit mistakes when typing since for some of us this is our second or third language (English)and how not to have mistakes if natives have them very often. The next thing to do is analyze the way people type certain sentences. I´ve seen that nigerians, for example, commit similar mistakes in the way they type and speak just be alert about it!! Latinos like me have problems when we change the grammatical structure since Spanish is different, when we say the car red you say the red car, there you can see if the person is latin and because our sentences are longer than usually, lol can you tell? haha
About exchanging personal information mmmh... well I think you could create a Skype account to chat cam/cam face/face and see how people is. Scammers don't like cams because there you can see their real accent and how they are and because you can take pics of them if you catch them in something weird.
Fortunately not all the people is like that but once you chat here you develop some skills to identify who´s behind a profile or mail. Men and women type in a different way, just check it out and you will see. Am I too analytical? lol well I think I am haha...
Trust me I´ve reported many profiles because they post a pic where the person has dark eyes and in their profile description they say they're blue eyes, come on!! or they say theyre looking for a lady of 6´3" when they say they´re 5´8" things that may be irrelevant for others but for me turn the alert sign beep beep! hahaha
Well hope my advices work for you!
And don't miss love!! Life is full of many colors, just learn to see which are real and which are not!
Regards from México!!
Au revoir mon ami! :)
About exchanging personal information mmmh... well I think you could create a Skype account to chat cam/cam face/face and see how people is. Scammers don't like cams because there you can see their real accent and how they are and because you can take pics of them if you catch them in something weird.
Fortunately not all the people is like that but once you chat here you develop some skills to identify who´s behind a profile or mail. Men and women type in a different way, just check it out and you will see. Am I too analytical? lol well I think I am haha...
Trust me I´ve reported many profiles because they post a pic where the person has dark eyes and in their profile description they say they're blue eyes, come on!! or they say theyre looking for a lady of 6´3" when they say they´re 5´8" things that may be irrelevant for others but for me turn the alert sign beep beep! hahaha
Well hope my advices work for you!
And don't miss love!! Life is full of many colors, just learn to see which are real and which are not!
Regards from México!!
Au revoir mon ami! :)
Wow What mine do you work in?
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