Possible Coup in Turkey ( Archived) (126)

Jul 15, 2016 5:39 PM CST Possible Coup in Turkey
colin53
colin53colin53Tralee, Kerry Ireland1 Threads 1 Polls 18 Posts
allthegoodnamest: That's very doubtful, considering over a million Kurds have been killed by Turkish troops over the years


with respect, I doubt the numbers you say are right, I must say
I am not taking any sides here to be honest,
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Jul 15, 2016 5:39 PM CST Possible Coup in Turkey
Reports of tank fire at Gov buildings.

Reports of army firing on civilians who tried to cross Bosphorous bridge.

Reports that the Official Police have called on people to take to the streets to fight the coup.

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Jul 15, 2016 5:42 PM CST Possible Coup in Turkey
allthegoodnamest
allthegoodnamestallthegoodnamestLondon, Essex, England UK40 Threads 4,697 Posts
KNenagh: There is always fighting with the Kurds (South-Eastern area) and that will go on.

There was a coup planned in 2010 but that didn't go ahead. The last coup before that was in 1980, that's a while ago.

I do hope that they get rid of Erdogan (hopefully without bloodshed) and I have no idea how they will solve the civil war with the Kurdish population.


Erdogan is a controversial figure who promotes religion amongst his priorities.. He is very backward in his thinking & i believe this coup came about as a result of the military & there supporters demanding stricter policies on terrorism & a more westernised culture.
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Jul 15, 2016 5:43 PM CST Possible Coup in Turkey
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
Aragorn11: Reports of tank fire at Gov buildings.

Reports of army firing on civilians who tried to cross Bosphorous bridge.

Reports that the Official Police have called on people to take to the streets to fight the coup.


If it is army v. police, which it seems to be, that won't end without bloodshed.
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Jul 15, 2016 5:44 PM CST Possible Coup in Turkey
KNenagh
KNenaghKNenaghAachen, Kilkenny Ireland12 Threads 11,160 Posts
Aragorn11: Well you'd know far more about it.
I just hope it's not to install Gulen.


Most Turkish people I know only go to Turkey for their holidays. conversing I know Turks through school and (my brother's) work, haven't met any Kurds though. Can't remember ever discussing Turkish politics tbh. (just never came up)
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Jul 15, 2016 5:45 PM CST Possible Coup in Turkey
mollybaby: If it is army v. police, which it seems to be, that won't end without bloodshed.


Nope, have just seen some pics of police trying to arrest some army guys. The Police have called on the people to take to the streets thru their official Twitter account.
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Jul 15, 2016 5:46 PM CST Possible Coup in Turkey
KNenagh: Most Turkish people I know only go to Turkey for their holidays. I know Turks through school and (my brother's) work, haven't met any Kurds though. Can't remember ever discussing Turkish politics tbh. (just never came up)


Ok, I thought with your background you would have a much better handle on the situation than I, and prob still do laugh
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Jul 15, 2016 5:49 PM CST Possible Coup in Turkey
KNenagh
KNenaghKNenaghAachen, Kilkenny Ireland12 Threads 11,160 Posts
allthegoodnamest: Erdogan is a controversial figure who promotes religion amongst his priorities.. He is very backward in his thinking & i believe this coup came about as a result of the military & there supporters demanding stricter policies on terrorism & a more westernised culture.


I know, I wouldn't be one bit sad to see Erdogan go. He isn't popular with a lot of Turks living in Germany. But his party even increased their seats and got an absolute majority in the last election. I hope he'll be gone, but I would prefer if that would happen by a democratic election and not civil war.
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Jul 15, 2016 5:53 PM CST Possible Coup in Turkey
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
colin53: with respect, I doubt the numbers you say are right, I must say
I am not taking any sides here to be honest,


Then present the right numbers in either side and what ever the numbers are they are a disgrace to humanity.


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Jul 15, 2016 5:53 PM CST Possible Coup in Turkey
allthegoodnamest
allthegoodnamestallthegoodnamestLondon, Essex, England UK40 Threads 4,697 Posts
colin53: with respect, I doubt the numbers you say are right, I must say
I am not taking any sides here to be honest,


Im not taking sides either but I knew a a Kurdish political freedom fighter who quoted me figures through evidence.. He was later assassinated here in England by Turks for his outspoken views..
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Jul 15, 2016 5:56 PM CST Possible Coup in Turkey
KNenagh
KNenaghKNenaghAachen, Kilkenny Ireland12 Threads 11,160 Posts
Aragorn11: Ok, I thought with your background you would have a much better handle on the situation than I, and prob still do


Over 20 years ago in school maybe (if we would have bothered) - went to the only girls school in town to do my leaving and we had a big percentage of foreign girls, the majority of them Turkish.

We were one crew but topic was general girls stuff and not politics, neither German or Turkish. conversing

I did see protests on German TV before the last Turkish general election. Erdogan came to Germany that time and some were big into supporting him, but a lot were very vocal against him.

Just looked at a German newssite - there are reports Erdogan wants to get asylum in Germany. uh oh
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Jul 15, 2016 6:00 PM CST Possible Coup in Turkey
allthegoodnamest
allthegoodnamestallthegoodnamestLondon, Essex, England UK40 Threads 4,697 Posts
KNenagh: I know, I wouldn't be one bit sad to see Erdogan go. He isn't popular with a lot of Turks living in Germany. But his party even increased their seats and got an absolute majority in the last election. I hope he'll be gone, but I would prefer if that would happen by a democratic election and not civil war.


Democracy is not so common in turkey.. Corruption seems more appropriate a word to describe the their political system.
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Jul 15, 2016 6:00 PM CST Possible Coup in Turkey
colin53
colin53colin53Tralee, Kerry Ireland1 Threads 1 Polls 18 Posts
lifeisadream: Then present the right numbers in either side and what ever the numbers are they are a disgrace to humanity.


all loss of innocent lives is a disgrace, the present leader
of Turkey is a disgrace, lets hope this all changes for the
good of all who live in that country, I say as ex military
myself. war is an inhumanity.
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Jul 15, 2016 6:01 PM CST Possible Coup in Turkey
KNenagh
KNenaghKNenaghAachen, Kilkenny Ireland12 Threads 11,160 Posts
allthegoodnamest: Democracy is not so common in turkey.. Corruption seems more appropriate a word to describe the their political system.


That seems to be a general problem, confused especially in the South. hole
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Jul 15, 2016 6:01 PM CST Possible Coup in Turkey
KNenagh: Over 20 years ago in school maybe (if we would have bothered) - went to the only girls school in town to do my leaving and we had a big percentage of foreign girls, the majority of them Turkish.

We were one crew but topic was general girls stuff and not politics, neither German or Turkish.

I did see protests on German TV before the last Turkish general election. Erdogan came to Germany that time and some were big into supporting him, but a lot were very vocal against him.

Just looked at a German newssite - there are reports Erdogan wants to get asylum in Germany.


I read that as well and also the UK. Who the hell knows whats going on. Reports that he is in an airplane as we speak.

Twitter have released a statement saying they are not blocked in the country but there has been a noticeable slowdown in traffic.
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Jul 15, 2016 6:02 PM CST Possible Coup in Turkey
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
allthegoodnamest: Democracy is not so common in turkey.. Corruption seems more appropriate a word to describe the their political system.



Corruption is an appropriate word for most political systems.
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Jul 15, 2016 6:05 PM CST Possible Coup in Turkey
KNenagh
KNenaghKNenaghAachen, Kilkenny Ireland12 Threads 11,160 Posts
Aragorn11: I read that as well and also the UK. Who the hell knows whats going on. Reports that he is in an airplane as we speak.

Twitter have released a statement saying they are not blocked in the country but there has been a noticeable slowdown in traffic.


Turkey is and will be a powder keg until they have sorted out their problems with the Kurds (can't see that happening) and do actually work on their human rights situation.
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Jul 15, 2016 6:07 PM CST Possible Coup in Turkey
allthegoodnamest
allthegoodnamestallthegoodnamestLondon, Essex, England UK40 Threads 4,697 Posts
mollybaby: Corruption is an appropriate word for most political systems.


I can't argue with that.confused laugh

But at least here we don't have a gun pointed towards our head when we cast our votes during election time.
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Jul 15, 2016 6:10 PM CST Possible Coup in Turkey
KNenagh: Turkey is and will be a powder keg until they have sorted out their problems with the Kurds (can't see that happening) and do actually work on their human rights situation.


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Jul 15, 2016 6:10 PM CST Possible Coup in Turkey
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
KNenagh: Turkey is and will be a powder keg until they have sorted out their problems with the Kurds (can't see that happening) and do actually work on their human rights situation.


Yes, and they are geographically very strategically placed, which makes it even more important.
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