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Nov 11, 2016 11:32 PM CST Whats the difference with Republicans and Democrats?
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
I'm obviously not from USA.
Yet I would like to know your call.
Maybe understand more about your politics.

In NZ always majority wins.
Sadly its been awful at times.

SS
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Nov 11, 2016 11:51 PM CST Whats the difference with Republicans and Democrats?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
sophiasummer: I'm obviously not from USA.
Yet I would like to know your call.
Maybe understand more about your politics.

In NZ always majority wins.
Sadly its been awful at times.

SS


Few people here have taken the time to read our simple constitution republic and especially the bill of rights. I can't imaging a democratic government where a majority would vote on issues in the bill of rights ... that would be a mixture of abstract powerful elements ofsurrealism and anarchy.....imo.

BILL OF RIGHTS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (1791)

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Amendment II
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

Amendment III
No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Amendment V
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Amendment VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

Amendment VII
In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

Amendment VIII
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
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Nov 12, 2016 12:02 AM CST Whats the difference with Republicans and Democrats?
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
So these amendments are made within the original amendment?
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Nov 12, 2016 12:04 AM CST Whats the difference with Republicans and Democrats?
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
Was the original, Democratic or Republican?
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Nov 12, 2016 12:33 AM CST Whats the difference with Republicans and Democrats?
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
Quite scary.
Yet there must be a good side? Of the Republicans?
Hes about to run the country?

I kind of like the unwritten constitution based on the NZ Bill of rights.
Yet having Winston up here is a bit like Trump.
"They wanted change,got it, yet never to be seen.
I call it the "Winston Effect"


Thanks Rod
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Nov 12, 2016 1:42 AM CST Whats the difference with Republicans and Democrats?
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
So really what are the different policies of Democrats and Republicans>
The indifference's?
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Nov 12, 2016 1:44 AM CST Whats the difference with Republicans and Democrats?
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
Any USA people want to kindly reply?
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Nov 12, 2016 4:39 AM CST Whats the difference with Republicans and Democrats?
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
sophiasummer: I'm obviously not from USA.
Yet I would like to know your call.
Maybe understand more about your politics.

In NZ always majority wins.
Sadly its been awful at times.

SS
There's not much difference between the ones in the middle , the ones who change their vote . A lot rides on their shoulders ,their choice changes the government . Their are four or five here and apart from one don't make much noise . Plug into them , grin next time . detective
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Nov 12, 2016 5:24 AM CST Whats the difference with Republicans and Democrats?
Rumples
RumplesRumplesManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK592 Posts
A republic or republican is supposed to be more meritocratic than a straight democracy.
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Nov 12, 2016 5:33 AM CST Whats the difference with Republicans and Democrats?
Rumples
RumplesRumplesManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK592 Posts
Rumples: A republic or republican is supposed to be more meritocratic than a straight democracy.


To elect your president through the electoral college instead of the popular vote is of a republic.
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Nov 12, 2016 5:38 AM CST Whats the difference with Republicans and Democrats?
DeeLite67
DeeLite67DeeLite67Stockport, Greater Manchester, England UK1 Threads 3 Posts
One is Red and one is Blue!!!
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Nov 12, 2016 7:41 AM CST Whats the difference with Republicans and Democrats?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
sophiasummer: Was the original, Democratic or Republican?


I think the original party's, as our constitutional republic emerged, was federalists and anti-federalists. I wonder if we'd be better off under the articles of confederation instead of this monster of a centralized 'king' government that the USA has today. Then we had democrats, republicans, and democrat-republicans. Now, we have haves and have nots.
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Nov 12, 2016 8:35 AM CST Whats the difference with Republicans and Democrats?
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
I've never recognized the difference between the Demobrats and the Repubs to me they are both the same.


They both lie,cheat and steal from the people.
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Nov 12, 2016 11:56 AM CST Whats the difference with Republicans and Democrats?
Ocee102
Ocee102Ocee102unkown, California USA10 Threads 1,399 Posts
Ccincy: I've never recognized the difference between the Demobrats and the Repubs to me they are both the same.


They both lie,cheat and steal from the people.



While I understand this simplistic and wholly naive form of cynicism feels like the perfect way to not have to bother to make a choice and stand behind, it is irresponsible to the point of child like.


There are very clear, and easy to see policy differences between the parties.
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Nov 12, 2016 12:08 PM CST Whats the difference with Republicans and Democrats?
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
Ocee102: While I understand this simplistic and wholly naive form of cynicism feels like the perfect way to not have to bother to make a choice and stand behind, it is irresponsible to the point of child like.


There are very clear, and easy to see policy differences between the parties.




Ocee Oh really.Why do you think I don't support a political person.It is how I've felt for some time so go ahead and insult me and consider what I posted.

You know what I've never really gave a care to whatever.

You don't like my opinions then don't read nor reply to them.yawn
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Nov 12, 2016 12:22 PM CST Whats the difference with Republicans and Democrats?
Ocee102
Ocee102Ocee102unkown, California USA10 Threads 1,399 Posts
Ccincy: Ocee Oh really.Why do you think I don't support a political person.It is how I've felt for some time so go ahead and insult me and consider what I posted.

You know what I've never really gave a care to whatever.

You don't like my opinions then don't read nor reply to them.



The trouble with not replying, is that you're expressing this opinion publicly, over and over.

If you present an idea publicly, others have the right to challenge it.


I will reply to what I choose to,



I don't particularly care what you think either, other than the fact that you're publicly expressing an idea

that I think is both ill founded and harmful.








If you feel you're idea is not simplistic, and child like you are free to defend it.

If you don't want your ideas challenged, you're also free to keep them to yourself.
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Nov 12, 2016 12:58 PM CST Whats the difference with Republicans and Democrats?
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
Ocee102: The trouble with not replying, is that you're expressing this opinion publicly, over and over.

If you present an idea publicly, others have the right to challenge it.


I will reply to what I choose to,



I don't particularly care what you think either, other than the fact that you're publicly expressing an idea

that I think is both ill founded and harmful.








If you feel you're idea is not simplistic, and child like you are free to defend it.

If you don't want your ideas challenged, you're also free to keep them to yourself.



Works both ways.tongue
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Nov 12, 2016 1:52 PM CST Whats the difference with Republicans and Democrats?
Dragos1
Dragos1Dragos1Metro, Oregon USA54 Threads 1 Polls 1,982 Posts
sophiasummer: Any USA people want to kindly reply?


Hi SS, I think that in many ways the citizens of the USA are not so sure themselves.. And many that say they do know base many of their "beliefs" of it on how they see the world and in what they believe religiously. And it also has a lot to do with the constant actions from all the above being corrupt or even misleading in how they speak and their actions not reflecting those words. So you end up with some groups trying to change parts of the constitution or even using it to support the beliefs in how they interpret it. It is probably not the simple answer that you may have been looking for but in at least part I do believe this is the case.
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Nov 13, 2016 12:16 AM CST Whats the difference with Republicans and Democrats?
sophiasummer: I'm obviously not from USA.
Yet I would like to know your call.
Maybe understand more about your politics.

In NZ always majority wins.
Sadly its been awful at times.

SS
wave the U.S. has a congress of the House of Representatives and the Senate, And each of the 50 state governments has their own Congress also, The U.S. election requires a party majority based on the majority of electoral votes for the Presidential Election.

This is to insure that major urban areas where population is concentrated cannot sway the vote to the detriment of rural America, and that the states and regions of the country can be weighted more equally.

Our congress is primarily a 2 party system although not limited to 2 parties, additional political parties can place candidates on the Presidential ballot if they have enough support and follow the correct procedure to get on the ballot. Our President is guaranteed , for the most part , his 4 yrs in office. We do not hold elections in the middle of things like a Parliament does. (rather we would have an impeachment proceeding which is rare, and even then, the Vice President would rule rather than have an election). Nor do we usually have as much 3rd party representation. (if any). So our government is a little different than a Parliament. But both are representative governements.

Republicans in the U.S. tend to favor state's empowerment and favor a smaller centralized government. They also , anecdotally, are more financially conservative, favor a balanced budget and less regulation on trade. In the last 2 decade conservative Christians have become associated with the Republican Party but that is a fairly recent development. And, the both parties have changed and evolved on some level. For example regional differences, where in the 50s and 60s Southern Democrats resembled today's Republicans, and Northern Democrats were "Kennedy" Democrats where the expectation is that the Federal Gov't will protect individual rights even to the extent of protecting the minority, or individual, from local "prejudices." ......as a "brief" explanation that I place on here with caution. I ask my countrymen to not be cruel in assessment as I cannot be erudite in all detail. The interwebs can only hold so much type...lollaugh
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