France abusing (child)migrants. ( Archived) (143)

Jun 16, 2018 7:43 AM CST France abusing (child)migrants.
Snookums33
Snookums33Snookums33Joburg, Gauteng South Africa601 Threads 2 Polls 5,760 Posts
R u still at it...….?
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Jun 16, 2018 7:47 AM CST France abusing (child)migrants.
Rachie14
Rachie14Rachie14Stafford, Staffordshire, England UK1 Threads 2,330 Posts
Theway100: Yes....
I guess according to some it's the children's fault that they are kidnapped?


Are some people on here actually blaming the children?

My God
The thing here I find that the fact it is happening seems to be outweighed by a bias of immigrants rather on the basis of human rights. I accept some people have an intent to exploit others. But who decides that is acceptable when it actually violates their human rights?
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Jun 16, 2018 8:22 AM CST France abusing (child)migrants.
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
Rachie14: The thing here I find that the fact it is happening seems to be outweighed by a bias of immigrants rather on the basis of human rights. I accept some people have an intent to exploit others. But who decides that is acceptable when it actually violates their human rights?
Human Rights has become a dirty term amongst certain people.
They see religion or ethnicity first, and only those of the right colour or religion are to be allowed human rights.
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Jun 16, 2018 8:26 AM CST France abusing (child)migrants.
Theway100
Theway100Theway100Amsterdam, North Holland Netherlands11 Threads 1 Polls 278 Posts
mollybaby: Human Rights has become a dirty term amongst certain people.
They see religion or ethnicity first, and only those of the right colour or religion are to be allowed human rights.
And this exactly why we have

HUMAN rights.
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Jun 16, 2018 8:38 AM CST France abusing (child)migrants.
Rachie14
Rachie14Rachie14Stafford, Staffordshire, England UK1 Threads 2,330 Posts
Continued:

Article 16.

(1) Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.
(2) Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.
(3) The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.

Article 17.

(1) Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.
(2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.

Article 18.

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

Article 19.

Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

Article 20.

(1) Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association.
(2) No one may be compelled to belong to an association.

Article 21.

(1) Everyone has the right to take part in the government of his country, directly or through freely chosen representatives.
(2) Everyone has the right of equal access to public service in his country.
(3) The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government; this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret vote or by equivalent free voting procedures.

Article 22.

Everyone, as a member of society, has the right to social security and is entitled to realization, through national effort and international co-operation and in accordance with the organization and resources of each State, of the economic, social and cultural rights indispensable for his dignity and the free development of his personality.

Article 23.

(1) Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment.
(2) Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work.
(3) Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection.
(4) Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests.

Article 24.

Everyone has the right to rest and leisure, including reasonable limitation of working hours and periodic holidays with pay.

Article 25.

(1) Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.
(2) Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the same social protection.

Article 26.

(1) Everyone has the right to education. Education shall be free, at least in the elementary and fundamental stages. Elementary education shall be compulsory. Technical and professional education shall be made generally available and higher education shall be equally accessible to all on the basis of merit.
(2) Education shall be directed to the full development of the human personality and to the strengthening of respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms.
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Jun 16, 2018 8:44 AM CST France abusing (child)migrants.
Theway100
Theway100Theway100Amsterdam, North Holland Netherlands11 Threads 1 Polls 278 Posts
Brilliant post rachie !

It says it all.

The whole point of human rights is it applies to all human beings !

Is this to complicated for some people on here?
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Jun 16, 2018 8:49 AM CST France abusing (child)migrants.
pKrema
pKremapKremaAt home, Shumen Bulgaria6 Threads 4,707 Posts
Theway100: Certain people on here make threads that are completely biased and one sided. The topic is often a half truth or a blatant,plain old lie.

Whilst other make a thread saying children...all children should be protected and NOT abused.

Now certain people can't take that we should protect all children, they only want freedoms and democracy for their own "clan".
And their comments show that.
Where is the thread that says abusing children is ok?
Does it make you a better person when you only see and show the bad and not what it is done for millions...not only those in Europe but the countless money and aid sent to people in Africa, Syria and so on?
Do you think kids in Africa and Middle East are having a good life?
There are many good things done for people around the world and a few unfortunate events should not make all of us monsters, just because it will make you feel better...
Think about it...
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Jun 16, 2018 8:50 AM CST France abusing (child)migrants.
Rachie14
Rachie14Rachie14Stafford, Staffordshire, England UK1 Threads 2,330 Posts
Theway100: Brilliant post rachie !

It says it all.

The whole point of human rights is it applies to all human beings !

Is this to complicated for some people on here?
Members of the United Nations:



The Universal Declaration of human rights.

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Jun 16, 2018 8:50 AM CST France abusing (child)migrants.
Conrad73: False narrative using weaponized empathy.
Biggest Racket in the History of Asylum-seeking!
How many of those Kids belong to those who claim them?
Props in the lucrative Trade of Human-Trafficking!
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Jun 16, 2018 8:52 AM CST France abusing (child)migrants.
Theway100
Theway100Theway100Amsterdam, North Holland Netherlands11 Threads 1 Polls 278 Posts
pKrema: Where is the thread that says abusing children is ok?
Does it make you a better person when you only see and show the bad and not what it is done for millions...not only those in Europe but the countless money and aid sent to people in Africa, Syria and so on?
Do you think kids in Africa and Middle East are having a good life?
There are many good things done for people around the world and a few unfortunate events should not make all of us monsters, just because it will make you feel better...
Think about it...
Believe it or not any age is good to start anew...
I've been there myself and it was the best thing I've ever done lifewise...
Complete change of education, profession, life views...anything you want...
Whatever you decide I wish you the best of luck...sincerely ...
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Jun 16, 2018 8:53 AM CST France abusing (child)migrants.
pKrema
pKremapKremaAt home, Shumen Bulgaria6 Threads 4,707 Posts
Everything looks great on paper, but whoever have experience knows that it's an illusion...a simple good intention...
The reality is harsh and nothing, absolutely nothing can change it because it's the people who create the problems...the mentality, the culture or lack of it...
Shouting "Human rights" sounds good but actually doing something is a long, long, hard work through a system that's as heavy and slow as life...
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Jun 16, 2018 8:54 AM CST France abusing (child)migrants.
pKrema
pKremapKremaAt home, Shumen Bulgaria6 Threads 4,707 Posts
Theway100: Believe it or not any age is good to start anew...
I've been there myself and it was the best thing I've ever done lifewise...
Complete change of education, profession, life views...anything you want...
Whatever you decide I wish you the best of luck...sincerely ...
And?
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Jun 16, 2018 8:55 AM CST France abusing (child)migrants.
Rachie14
Rachie14Rachie14Stafford, Staffordshire, England UK1 Threads 2,330 Posts
pKrema: Everything looks great on paper, but whoever have experience knows that it's an illusion...a simple good intention...
The reality is harsh and nothing, absolutely nothing can change it because it's the people who create the problems...the mentality, the culture or lack of it...
Shouting "Human rights" sounds good but actually doing something is a long, long, hard work through a system that's as heavy and slow as life...
You are advocating against their human rights though, because they are not of the same country or religion.
Yet, you are saying it's a mentality, true it is so I am asking why do people of a different race, culture or country have less human rights than you?
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Jun 16, 2018 8:57 AM CST France abusing (child)migrants.
Theway100
Theway100Theway100Amsterdam, North Holland Netherlands11 Threads 1 Polls 278 Posts
pKrema: Everything looks great on paper, but whoever have experience knows that it's an illusion...a simple good intention...
The reality is harsh and nothing, absolutely nothing can change it because it's the people who create the problems...the mentality, the culture or lack of it...
Shouting "Human rights" sounds good but actually doing something is a long, long, hard work through a system that's as heavy and slow as life...
By doing something as a state or country.
You take the human rights as your blueprint.

That's what it's there for.
You don't have to reinvent the wheel.
The good people have been so kind to give universal human rights. Not rights to a select few as you read in some ( old ) books.

Make us of it.
Apply it to yourself and your own country first.
Before you start pointing blame to other countries.
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Jun 16, 2018 9:01 AM CST France abusing (child)migrants.
pKrema
pKremapKremaAt home, Shumen Bulgaria6 Threads 4,707 Posts
Theway100: By doing something as a state or country.
You take the human rights as your blueprint.

That's what it's there for.
You don't have to reinvent the wheel.
The good people have been so kind to give universal human rights. Not rights to a select few as you read in some ( old ) books.

Make us of it.
Apply it to yourself and your own country first.
Before you start pointing blame to other countries.
I am not blaming anyone, you are...
A bit of gratitude won't hurt you know...
Take, take, take...that's a bad policy...
Responsibility and work can change your life, running away from it makes you a coward...
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Jun 16, 2018 9:02 AM CST France abusing (child)migrants.
Theway100
Theway100Theway100Amsterdam, North Holland Netherlands11 Threads 1 Polls 278 Posts
pKrema: I am not blaming anyone, you are...
A bit of gratitude won't hurt you know...
Take, take, take...that's a bad policy...
Responsibility and work can change your life, running away from it makes you a coward...
Not seeing the reality will make for bad decisions.
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Jun 16, 2018 9:04 AM CST France abusing (child)migrants.
pKrema
pKremapKremaAt home, Shumen Bulgaria6 Threads 4,707 Posts
Rachie14: You are advocating against their human rights though, because they are not of the same country or religion.
Yet, you are saying it's a mentality, true it is so I am asking why do people of a different race, culture or country have less human rights than you?
I am advocating against human right...listen to yourself...hilarious... Get off your white horse love, I've seen what you will never even read in the tabloids... Stop preaching and labeling people and feel important because you can copy and paste a link...
You are obviously not seeing the bigger picture...but I am not here to make you see further than your nose...
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Jun 16, 2018 9:06 AM CST France abusing (child)migrants.
Rachie14
Rachie14Rachie14Stafford, Staffordshire, England UK1 Threads 2,330 Posts
pKrema: I am advocating against human right...listen to yourself...hilarious... Get off your white horse love, I've seen what you will never even read in the tabloids... Stop preaching and labeling people and feel important because you can copy and paste a link...
You are obviously not seeing the bigger picture...but I am not here to make you see further than your nose...
What high horse? You have said in this debate that you are avdocating for your own country. I am saying why do you see immigrants as people with less human rights than you? Don't you think some of them have been through enough? I think you just labelled me to be fair, I asked you a question.

You don't know what I have seen, so that would be an assumption.
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Jun 16, 2018 9:11 AM CST France abusing (child)migrants.
pKrema
pKremapKremaAt home, Shumen Bulgaria6 Threads 4,707 Posts
Rachie14: What high horse? You have said in this debate that you are avdocating for your own country. I am saying why do you see immigrants as people with less human rights than you? Don't you think some of them have been through enough? I think you just labelled me to be fair, I asked you a question.

You don't know what I have seen, so that would be an assumption.
Where did I say I am seeing immigrants as lesser people? You put meaning to whatever I say that suits best you attack... You always choose to see what you want in people...I've seen you agree with people who express harsher views than mine or let them get away with it... You probably like them, and it makes it personal...
Tell me what have you seen Rachie...?
I am all ears...
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Jun 16, 2018 9:17 AM CST France abusing (child)migrants.
Rachie14
Rachie14Rachie14Stafford, Staffordshire, England UK1 Threads 2,330 Posts
pKrema: Where did I say I am seeing immigrants as lesser people? You put meaning to whatever I say that suits best you attack... You always choose to see what you want in people...I've seen you agree with people who express harsher views than mine or let them get away with it... You probably like them, and it makes it personal...
Tell me what have you seen Rachie...?
I am all ears...
I am asking you a simple question Krema, this defence you have going on is not my issue but your own. Who did I agree with on their harsher views? Have I seen men, women and children that have been abused. Yes I have, have I tried to help them. Yes I have. Has sometimes it being a pointless task, yes it has. Have seen people in poverty in this country and other countries yes I have. Have I seen injustices in this country, more than I can tell you.

I didn't write the UN's statement of human rights. I live in a country that is part of it. So where is my high horse? I was asking you a question based on what you have written on this thread.

pKrema: Shame on me? Really?
Calm down mother Theresa...
People can Google whatever they want...
My country doesn't give freebies and it's not a desirable destination for the illegals...
Borders are to be borders not open doors...
Why would I believe something that Oxfam is saying?
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