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Jun 17, 2018 6:36 PM CST France abusing (child)migrants.
Theway100
Theway100Theway100Amsterdam, North Holland Netherlands11 Threads 1 Polls 278 Posts
Theway100: Well said!

If you don't mind me saying.
Thank you !

wine
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Jun 17, 2018 7:47 PM CST France abusing (child)migrants.
Lots of children are abused at this time on Earth. crying
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Miwagi
MiwagiMiwagiFlyover, Kentucky USA47 Threads 2 Polls 1,753 Posts
Theway100: "When the christian soldiers win a battle, they call it victory.
When we win, they call it massacre"

Sitting Bull


Same mentality continues.
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rainbowdream2017
rainbowdream2017rainbowdream2017Melbourne, Victoria Australia13 Threads 1 Polls 2,486 Posts

The battle that saved civilization - A Tribute to Nikola Šubic Zrinski / Zrínyi Miklós tip hat
Published on Sep 9, 2016


A 19th cenutry opera dedicated to the Battle of Szigeth, and the commander of the garrison Nikola Šubic Zrinski, Croatian noble and Ban of Croatia, a national hero of Hungary and Croatia.
The fortress of Szigeth, with 3000 Croats and Hungarians garrisoned, faced the Ottoman besieging army of around 100 000.

The final battle began on 7 September of 1566. By this time, the fortress walls had been reduced to rubble. In the morning an all-out attack began. Soon the castle, the last stronghold within Szigetvár, was set ablaze and cinders fell into the apartments of the count. The Ottoman army swarmed through the city, drumming and yelling. Zrinski prepared for a last charge addressing his troops:

“ ...Let us go out from this burning place into the open and stand up to our enemies. Who dies – he will be with God. Who dies not – his name will be honoured. I will go first, and what I do, you do. And God is my witness – I will never leave you, my brothers and knights!... ”

As the Turks were pressing forwards along a narrow bridge the defenders suddenly flung open the gate and fired a large mortar loaded with broken iron, killing 600 attackers. Zrinski then ordered a charge and led his remaining 600 troops out of the castle. He received two musket wounds in his chest and was killed shortly afterwards by an arrow to the head.

The importance of the battle was considered so great that the French clergyman and statesman Cardinal Richelieu was reported to have described it as "the battle that saved civilization.“


English translation: (Chorus)

To battle, to battle!
Unsheathe your sword, Ban,
Let the enemy know how we die!

Our city already burns,
The heat is already reaching us:
Their roar resounds,
Their rage is rampant!

Our chests flare up as that fire,
The roar is silenced by the rattling of our swords!

All of you, kiss Zrinski
As brethren would kiss one another!
Follow him to the gates,
You, faithful heroes! (Now, brethren!)
Good bye and be well, (Load the rifles, pistols,)
Our home of old, (Our thunders, our bang,)
Oh, good bye, (Let them roar, topple, harry!)
From everywhere (Let us grind our fierce swords,)
The grim enemy comes (Make them cut harder, harder!)
Already they plan (Load the rifles, pistols,)
To bury your sacred body, (Our thunders, our bang,)
But they won't! (Let them roar, topple, harry!)
All your sons move to the fight for you!
Our home, you will stand forever!

Into the fight, to the fight!
For the home, for the home now to the fight!
Even if the infernal might
Raises its knife at it;
To the fight!
We are few, but courageous!
Who, who will bring him down?
Death to the devil, death!

For the home, to the fight, For the home, to the fight

To die for your homeland - such a delight!
Against the enemy! They shall die!



tip hat
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Theway100
Theway100Theway100Amsterdam, North Holland Netherlands11 Threads 1 Polls 278 Posts
rainbowdream2017: The battle that saved civilization - A Tribute to Nikola Šubic Zrinski / Zrínyi Miklós
Published on Sep 9, 2016


A 19th cenutry opera dedicated to the Battle of Szigeth, and the commander of the garrison Nikola Šubic Zrinski, Croatian noble and Ban of Croatia, a national hero of Hungary and Croatia.
The fortress of Szigeth, with 3000 Croats and Hungarians garrisoned, faced the Ottoman besieging army of around 100 000.

The final battle began on 7 September of 1566. By this time, the fortress walls had been reduced to rubble. In the morning an all-out attack began. Soon the castle, the last stronghold within Szigetvár, was set ablaze and cinders fell into the apartments of the count. The Ottoman army swarmed through the city, drumming and yelling. Zrinski prepared for a last charge addressing his troops:

“ ...Let us go out from this burning place into the open and stand up to our enemies. Who dies – he will be with God. Who dies not – his name will be honoured. I will go first, and what I do, you do. And God is my witness – I will never leave you, my brothers and knights!... ”

As the Turks were pressing forwards along a narrow bridge the defenders suddenly flung open the gate and fired a large mortar loaded with broken iron, killing 600 attackers. Zrinski then ordered a charge and led his remaining 600 troops out of the castle. He received two musket wounds in his chest and was killed shortly afterwards by an arrow to the head.

The importance of the battle was considered so great that the French clergyman and statesman Cardinal Richelieu was reported to have described it as "the battle that saved civilization.“


English translation: (Chorus)

To battle, to battle!
Unsheathe your sword, Ban,
Let the enemy know how we die!

Our city already burns,
The heat is already reaching us:
Their roar resounds,
Their rage is rampant!

Our chests flare up as that fire,
The roar is silenced by the rattling of our swords!

All of you, kiss Zrinski
As brethren would kiss one another!
Follow him to the gates,
You, faithful heroes! (Now, brethren!)
Good bye and be well, (Load the rifles, pistols,)
Our home of old, (Our thunders, our bang,)
Oh, good bye, (Let them roar, topple, harry!)
From everywhere (Let us grind our fierce swords,)
The grim enemy comes (Make them cut harder, harder!)
Already they plan (Load the rifles, pistols,)
To bury your sacred body, (Our thunders, our bang,)
But they won't! (Let them roar, topple, harry!)
All your sons move to the fight for you!
Our home, you will stand forever!

Into the fight, to the fight!
For the home, for the home now to the fight!
Even if the infernal might
Raises its knife at it;
To the fight!
We are few, but courageous!
Who, who will bring him down?
Death to the devil, death!

For the home, to the fight, For the home, to the fight

To die for your homeland - such a delight!
Against the enemy! They shall die!
Holy crap !

You scare me.

I'm starting to feel sorry for you, seriously.



Ohhh

Still no answer to 1 simple question I asked.

Also
"Who dies – he will be with God. Who dies not – his name will be honoured"

"To die for your homeland - such a delight!
Against the enemy! They shall die!"

This sounds like ISIS!

Very extreme and dangerous views!

Religious fanatics rhetoric

Are you a ISIS supporter ?


Seriously though..... If this your response to my threads and post maybe I should stop...
I don't want to give you a stroke
But it seems I might be too late.

mumbling
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rainbowdream2017
rainbowdream2017rainbowdream2017Melbourne, Victoria Australia13 Threads 1 Polls 2,486 Posts
Theway100: Holy crap !

You scare me.

I'm starting to feel sorry for you, seriously.



Ohhh

Still no answer to 1 simple question I asked.

Also
"Who dies – he will be with God. Who dies not – his name will be honoured"

"To die for your homeland - such a delight!
Against the enemy! They shall die!"

This sounds like ISIS!

Very extreme and dangerous views!

Religious fanatics rhetoric

Are you a ISIS supporter ?


Seriously though..... If this your response to my threads and post maybe I should stop...
I don't want to give you a stroke
But it seems I might be too late.
https://youth.be/uKYRPzc_3M8

Watch U boj,U boj - 1000 Japanise singing
A well known Croatian tune "U boj,U boj " (To battle,To battle)from the opera Nikola Subic Zrinkski is taught in Japanise school.
Japanise choir composed of 1000 singers contacted by maestro Katsuaki Kozai in Tokyo. This concert attended by about 10,000 listeners.
Wowo all this 1000 Japanise singers and another 10,000 listeners must be all with dangerous and extrime view to sing the same Croatian tune.
rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Jun 18, 2018 5:09 AM CST France abusing (child)migrants.
rainbowdream2017
rainbowdream2017rainbowdream2017Melbourne, Victoria Australia13 Threads 1 Polls 2,486 Posts
rainbowdream2017: https://youth.be/uKYRPzc_3M8

Watch U boj,U boj - 1000 Japanise singing
A well known Croatian tune "U boj,U boj " (To battle,To battle)from the opera Nikola Subic Zrinkski is taught in Japanise school.
Japanise choir composed of 1000 singers contacted by maestro Katsuaki Kozai in Tokyo. This concert attended by about 10,000 listeners.
Wowo all this 1000 Japanise singers and another 10,000 listeners must be all with dangerous and extrime view to sing the same Croatian tune.
My birth country can't and won't change its own history to please old enemy invaders that wants to revive Ottoman empire. grin
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Jun 18, 2018 5:23 AM CST France abusing (child)migrants.
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
rainbowdream2017: https://youth.be/uKYRPzc_3M8

Watch U boj,U boj - 1000 Japanise singing
A well known Croatian tune "U boj,U boj " (To battle,To battle)from the opera Nikola Subic Zrinkski is taught in Japanise school.
Japanise choir composed of 1000 singers contacted by maestro Katsuaki Kozai in Tokyo. This concert attended by about 10,000 listeners.
Wowo all this 1000 Japanise singers and another 10,000 listeners must be all with dangerous and extrime view to sing the same Croatian tune.
Kamikaze!!! It comes as no surprise to see Japan glorifying the act of killing yourself, no race of people on earth accepts more unhappiness upon themselves personally in order to empower the nation. The individual life is nothing more than an obstacle and sacrificing the individual is simply the price of victory. To win glory for the nation is everything.
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Jun 18, 2018 5:46 AM CST France abusing (child)migrants.
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
ChesneyChrist: Kamikaze!!! It comes as no surprise to see Japan glorifying the act of killing yourself, no race of people on earth accepts more unhappiness upon themselves personally in order to empower the nation. The individual life is nothing more than an obstacle and sacrificing the individual is simply the price of victory. To win glory for the nation is everything.
It's an incredibly old fascioned attitude they have in Japan. For most of the world life is simply too fun or fulfilling to wanna die for the country, nationalism's greatest appeal is to those with no life where you may as well do yourself in. Dying in a blaze of glory is built on having nothing to live for, there's a reason why when you meet a liberal they're much more likely to behave in a way that suggests they love life in contrast to Trump's fans who sound even more bitter now when they're winning.
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ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
ChesneyChrist: It's an incredibly old fascioned attitude they have in Japan. For most of the world life is simply too fun or fulfilling to wanna die for the country, nationalism's greatest appeal is to those with no life where you may as well do yourself in. Dying in a blaze of glory is built on having nothing to live for, there's a reason why when you meet a liberal they're much more likely to behave in a way that suggests they love life in contrast to Trump's fans who sound even more bitter now when they're winning.
I should change that to aiming to die in a blaze of glory, it's the intent which changes the picture entirely. Some of the kindest people can do incredibly brave things in the moment
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Theway100
Theway100Theway100Amsterdam, North Holland Netherlands11 Threads 1 Polls 278 Posts
rainbowdream2017: https://youth.be/uKYRPzc_3M8

Watch U boj,U boj - 1000 Japanise singing
A well known Croatian tune "U boj,U boj " (To battle,To battle)from the opera Nikola Subic Zrinkski is taught in Japanise school.
Japanise choir composed of 1000 singers contacted by maestro Katsuaki Kozai in Tokyo. This concert attended by about 10,000 listeners.
Wowo all this 1000 Japanise singers and another 10,000 listeners must be all with dangerous and extrime view to sing the same Croatian tune.
If you want songs....

Here is so culture and beaty for your dark heart.

Let it illimunate your soul before it's damned ( hope not too late )



Also... You seem to type a lot words ( insane nonsense rants )
But yet...
You fail to answer 1 simple question.
You said "the Croatians, Serbs etc. Were forcefully converted to Islam"( which can't be because it is forbidden in Islam to forcefully convert )
My simple question was...
My straightforward question was...
My 1...just 1 question was,is and remains...

What were the Croatians, Serbs etc. Before they were christian?

Everyone who replies to this "thing" this abomination should ask that question.

But yet...
You fail to answer 1 simple question.
You said "the Croatians, Serbs etc. Were forcefully converted to Islam"( which can't be because it is forbidden in Islam to forcefully convert )
My simple question was...
My straightforward question was...
My 1...just 1 question was,is and remains...

What were the Croatians, Serbs etc. Before they were christian?
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pKrema
pKremapKremaAt home, Shumen Bulgaria6 Threads 4,707 Posts
You asked the same question about Bulgarians...read carefully...
We were pagans, worshiping God Tangra, the Sun...


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pKrema
pKremapKremaAt home, Shumen Bulgaria6 Threads 4,707 Posts
"Were forcefully converted to Islam"( which can't be because it is forbidden in Islam to forcefully convert )"




rolling on the floor laughing
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rainbowdream2017
rainbowdream2017rainbowdream2017Melbourne, Victoria Australia13 Threads 1 Polls 2,486 Posts
Theway100: If you want songs....

Here is so culture and beaty for your dark heart.

Let it illimunate your soul before it's damned ( hope not too late )



Also... You seem to type a lot words ( insane nonsense rants )
But yet...
You fail to answer 1 simple question.
You said "the Croatians, Serbs etc. Were forcefully converted to Islam"( which can't be because it is forbidden in Islam to forcefully convert )
My simple question was...
My straightforward question was...
My 1...just 1 question was,is and remains...

What were the Croatians, Serbs etc. Before they were christian?

Everyone who replies to this "thing" this abomination should ask that question.

But yet...
You fail to answer 1 simple question.
You said "the Croatians, Serbs etc. Were forcefully converted to Islam"( which can't be because it is forbidden in Islam to forcefully convert )
My simple question was...
My straightforward question was...
My 1...just 1 question was,is and remains...

What were the Croatians, Serbs etc. Before they were christian?
Do you eat pork ? Very simple straightforward question and you can't answer..rolling on the floor laughing
Croats and Serbs eat pork before Ottoman empire and we still enjoy it. You should tray.
After all it's part of your duty to assimilate in western country ! grin
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Theway100
Theway100Theway100Amsterdam, North Holland Netherlands11 Threads 1 Polls 278 Posts
"It's not 1389 - Serbia and Turkey are now friends"

Serbia "feels Turkey as its friend - while we are friends of both Turkey and the Turkish people," President Aleksandar Vucic said on Tuesday.

Vucic made the comments during a joint news conference with Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdogan, held after their meeting in Belgrade.

Vucic appraised that relations between the two countries would continue to improve going forward, and that this message, sent from Belgrade today, will be also be sent from Novi Pazar - a town in southwestern Serbia with a large Bosniak (Muslim) population - when Erdogan visits there on Wednesday. 

Apparently referring to the year the Battle of Kosovo was fought - when Ottoman Turks started their centuries-long invasion and occupation of the medieval Serbian state - the president then said that "this is not 1389, as some think - this is 2017." 

"Our relations are important for Serbia's future," Vucic said. 

He recalled that Serbia was among the first countries whose officials spoke in defense of Turkey's constitutional and democratic order last year - and did this "the same evening a coup was attended in that country." 

Vucic said he "in a way" considers coups to be "the highest form of terrorism," and added that Belgrade took the side of Turkey's legally and legitimately elected institutions and the country's president "not because we needed something, but because we think only citizens can be deciding about their own future, in elections." 

"Rather than have somebody else do it, using violence, or with the help of a foreign factor," he said, and recalled that Serbia "always expresses its opposition to any violence or even a terrorist act, which is what was attempted in Turkey a year ago can be called." 

Vucic recalled also that Serbia "always expresses its sympathies with the victims of acts of terrorism, and its readiness to fight against terrorism together." 

"You'll never find those in Serbia who could enter pacts with the opponents of Turkey's legally elected organs, because we base our cooperation on cooperating with you, with those whom the people have elected," Vucic added, and stressed: 

"We have nothing to do with (Fethullah) Gulen, or anybody else. Serbia wants clean ties, and clean hands in its relations with other countries." 

And just as you don't let anyone endanger Turkey's independence, he continued, addressing Erdogan, so Serbia won't allow it , and insists on its independence and its pride being respected. 

"Therefore, don't even think or suspect that Serbia could participate in anything contrary to the decisions made democratically in your country, and by the democratically elected organs," Vucic said, and added he was convinced "we can have the best possible relations." 

Speaking during the same news conference, Erdogan said that Novi Pazar represents "a bridge between Serbia and Turkey." 

"I will never stand with nationalism, especially not ethnic nationalism, and that is the message I will send to people," Erdogan said, adding that there are "no problems" in Novi Pazar, where he and Vucic will travel tomorrow. 

There will be those who criticize the strengthening of the friendship between the two countries, he continued, but they should be ignored. 

"We will not pay attention to who's saying what, who's making what comment. After a difficult period we have arrived to where we are now. We want to make big steps with Serbia, but also with the whole of the Balkans, in order to solve all the problems. That is why the road between Sarajevo and Belgrade needs to be built as soon as possible," Erdogan said, stressing that "we need to work together." 

Continues next post...
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Theway100
Theway100Theway100Amsterdam, North Holland Netherlands11 Threads 1 Polls 278 Posts
Continues.....

"There is no problem. When I go to Novi Pazar with my dear friend Vucic, I will tell our brothers there that their role, too, is to create peace between the two countries. I want to stress that I will never be in favor of any nationalism, and I will repeat this there," he said. 

The Turkish president also said he would back Turkish investments in Serbia, and described the signing of 12 bilateral agreements earlier in the day, covering various areas, as"a good foundation for future cooperation." 

"There is also room to boost the bilateral trade volume from the present 800 million dollars a year to over one billion by the end of the year," Erdogan told the press conference with Vucic.
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Theway100
Theway100Theway100Amsterdam, North Holland Netherlands11 Threads 1 Polls 278 Posts
pKrema: You asked the same question about Bulgarians...read carefully...
We were pagans, worshiping God Tangra, the Sun...


I didn't ask you...
But alright...

So...
How did you become Christians?
(Since you're in the mood to answer questions addressed to others you surely can answer a question addresssed to you)

How did the Balkan people became christian?

When?how?
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pKrema
pKremapKremaAt home, Shumen Bulgaria6 Threads 4,707 Posts
Theway100: I didn't ask you...
But alright...

So...
How did you become Christians?
(Since you're in the mood to answer questions addressed to others you surely can answer a question addresssed to you)

How did the Balkan people became christian?

When?how?
"The Christianization of Bulgaria was the process by which 9th-century medieval Bulgaria converted to Christianity. It reflected the need of unity within the religiously divided Bulgarian state as well as the need for equal acceptance on the international stage in Christian Europe. This process was characterized by the shifting political alliances of Boris I of Bulgaria (ruled 852-889) with the kingdom of the East Franks and with the Byzantine Empire, as well as his diplomatic correspondence with the Pope.

Because of Bulgaria's strategic position, the churches of both Rome and Constantinople each wanted Bulgaria in their sphere of influence. They regarded Christianization as a means of integrating Slavs into their region. After some overtures to each side, the Khan adopted Christianity from Constantinople in 870. As a result, he achieved his goal of gaining an independent Bulgarian national church and having an archbishop appointed to head it."
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Theway100
Theway100Theway100Amsterdam, North Holland Netherlands11 Threads 1 Polls 278 Posts
Turkey was among the first countries to recognize the independence of Croatia. She has established very close relations with this country and has supported its accession to NATO.

Bilateral high level visits which have gained momentum with the signing of the “Strategy Document” beginning of 2009, have contributed to the development of bilateral relations. With the establishment of Turkey-Bosnia Herzegovina-Croatia trilateral advisory mechanism in January of 2010, and within the context of the Southeast Europe Cooperation Process Presidency that Turkey had assumed during the period June 2009 – June 2010, close cooperation was developed between the two countries on regional issues as well.

H.E. President Erdogan paid a visit to Croatia on 26-27 April 2016.
Kolinda Grabar Kitaroviç, President of Croatia, paid a visit to Istanbul on 23-24 May 2016 within the context of World Humanitarian Summit.
Prime Minister Erdogan paid a visit to Croatia on 12-13 December 2009.
Prime Minister of Croatia Jadranka Kosor paid a visit to Turkey on 24 November 2010.
E.Minister Çavusoglu paid a visit to Croatia on 9-11 July 2015 within the context of the 10th Croatia Forum.
Croatia’s 1st Deputy Prime Minister, Minister of Foreign and Europe Affairs Vesna Pusiç visited Turkey on 19 December 2014.
Turkey-Bosnia and Herzegovina-Croatia Foreign Ministers, within the context of trilateral advisory mechanism, gathered in New York in September 2017.

Co-president from the Turkish side of Turkey-Croatia Inter-parliamentary Friendship Group is AK Party Manisa deputy Ismail Bilen and from the Croatian side is HNS deputy Goran Beus Richembergh.

Primary Export Products: iron and steel, machinery and equipment, land vehicles, textile products

Primary Import Products: fertilizer, metal extracts, raw metal, technic equipment, plastic

Agreement on “Reciprocal Protection and Promotion of Investments” dated 12 February 1996, “Agreement on Avoidance of Double Taxation” dated 22 September 1997 and “Economic Cooperation Agreement” dated 18 February 2009 constitute the legal basis of our bilateral economic relations.

The Free Trade Agreement which was signed on 13 March 2002 and which entered into force on 1 July 2003 was terminated when Croatia joined the EU on 1 July 2013.

In recent years, Turkish firms got more interested in Croatia as it relates to tourism, banking, energy, construction and textile sectors. Croatian government also encourages Turkish investments in Croatia.

Turkish investments towards Croatia have recently gained momentum. In 2012 Turkish businessmen ranked in the top three among foreign investors investing in Croatia.

There are 15 Turkish investment firms in Croatia representing a total of 350 million Euros worth of investments. Within Turkish investments in Croatia tourism-hotel-marina management ranks number one. Up until today, 6 projects valued at 610 million Dollars, were undertaken by the Turkish construction firms in Croatia.

Last meeting of the Joint Economic Commission (JEC) between Turkey and Croatia was held on 14-15 December 2010. As of 8 July 2017 JEC Co-President is Deputy Prime Minister Fikri Isik.

Turkish Co-President of Turkey-Croatia Business Council within the body of Foreign Economic Relations Board is Dogus Holding regional director Burak Baykan, Croatian Co-President is the President of Zagreb Economy Chamber, Fröh Lich.

As of September 2017, 16.768 Croatian tourists visited Turkey.

Cultural Relations:

While TICA is active, Yunus Emre Turkish Cultural Center is not present in Croatia.
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rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
rainbowdream2017: My birth country can't and won't change its own history to please old enemy invaders that wants to revive Ottoman empire.
You obviously have a passion for your birth country, and a passion for the ending of Islam in said country, so makes me wonder, why do you live on the other side of the world rather than in your own country and fight for what you believe in?
Maybe as a "keyboard warrior" it lessens the guiltdunno
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