HI K, thanks a million, we had a great evening yesterday, but then we always do... Hope you are keeping well and all is good in your life... Take good care... Be well...
Arthur_Sixpence: HI K, thanks a million, we had a great evening yesterday, but then we always do... Hope you are keeping well and all is good in your life... Take good care... Be well...
charles_nzChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand1,386 Posts
charles_nzChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand1,386 posts
Arthur_Sixpence: Are the good manners of old now misplaced and out of step with today's men and women?... If yes, what do you think passes for the 'new decent'?.... Manners were drummed into me at a very early age, and I've never drifted away from them, not for an instant, but am I being a dinosaur thinker in a time when courtesies are surplus to social mores?.... Discuss at will....
Manners are part of the traditional culture of the West that today's opinion-makers deem obsolete and due for replacement.
Arthur_Sixpence: No not really.... I just live by a code of manners learnt from my parents... And yes, many is the time a woman has held a door for me, and same of a man holding a door... In Ireland we may be seen as a load of bog-trotters, but thankfully, in the smaller towns and villages, people are reasonably social and mannerly... So where's the feminism that I need to address...
Most people have basic social manners.
I have yet to ever meet a man who has had a bad experience holding a door open for a woman (except hearsay on the internet) or a woman who doesn't like it being held open for them.
I have yet to ever meet a man who has had a bad experience holding a door open for a woman (except hearsay on the internet) or a woman who doesn't like it being held open for them.
My mother in law was a lady, I used to stand up when she entered the room... Now how far back in the tradition of mannerly behavior does that go...
charles_nzChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand1,386 Posts
charles_nzChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand1,386 posts
Arthur_Sixpence: My mother in law was a lady, I used to stand up when she entered the room... Now how far back in the tradition of mannerly behavior does that go...
It is good manners to stand when a lady enters the room. Even today. Sadly, many people don't do it.
charles_nz: Manners are part of the traditional culture of the West that today's opinion-makers deem obsolete and due for replacement.
HI Charles, you're probably right but what to replace them with is the question of the hour... I find good manners to be like a social lubricant if that makes any sense, society moves more smoothly when good manners are applied in our daily dealings with others...
Arthur_Sixpence: My mother in law was a lady, I used to stand up when she entered the room... Now how far back in the tradition of mannerly behavior does that go...
I wouldn't need that to happen unless the person was coming over to greet me.
If I'm walking down the street in company of a woman, I find that I automatically walk nearest to the road. I was taught to do that by my parents, something about protecting the lady from spray thrown up by passing horse and carts. It's become a habit now, not sure why...horses and carts are a bit thin on the ground round here.
charles_nzChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand1,386 Posts
charles_nzChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand1,386 posts
It's difficult to convince young people today of the need for gentlemanly manners towards women, when we live in societies that put women in combat roles in the military. What kind of "civilized" society does that to its womenfolk???!!!!!!
bodleing2: If I'm walking down the street in company of a woman, I find that I automatically walk nearest to the road. I was taught to do that by my parents, something about protecting the lady from spray thrown up by passing horse and carts. It's become a habit now, not sure why...horses and carts are a bit thin on the ground round here.
I've heard similar, but I can't get it out of my head that there was a more 'sinister' reason.... I might be wrong, but Google knows everything.... (just as well really, because I haven't the room for the library of congress....
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Wishing you a lovely weekend L and Fifi.