The arguments for and against the death penalty. (168)
OnlyLiveTwiceValletta, Majjistral Malta162 Threads 29 Polls 1,446 PostsBogart_1960: Good work
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OnlyLiveTwice: Brilliant sketch.
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jac_the_gripper: If it's an act of compassion to ....
Well, there will be one more homicide victim, but I think you're right. Society is led to believe that they are at risk without the death penalty because they are led to believe that releasing, or escaping prisoners is inevitable.
Have to comment on your extensive and insightful commentary on this thread! I have learnt a lot from your input. Thank you!Well, there will be one more homicide victim, but I think you're right. Society is led to believe that they are at risk without the death penalty because they are led to believe that releasing, or escaping prisoners is inevitable.
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Think ruth Ellis was the last person to be hanged? read about her think she a bit of a noose woman 
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deedee123xo: In all the answers against the death penalty ive seen very very little condolence to the lives of victims....
The moment you associate capital punishment with offering victims condolence, you associate it with offering victims consolation. That takes you into revenge territory, rather than justice.deedee123xo: I think ye are all 1000 years ahead of yer time on this notion of seeking the answers for prevention from killers.
We won't have a better society by magic in a thousand years time. We need to work at it.deedee123xo: the majority are premeditated and deranged
If people kill because they are deranged it calls into question their culpability.deedee123xo: ....what makes you think you will seek any cooperarion from these people....and not alone that...it will come with a cost.
Studies have already been carried out. This isn't a new concept. 
Capital cases are the most expensive by far, but you don't seem to too worried about that expenditure.
deedee123xo: I havnt seen one decent reason yet why they should be studied instead of time and energy put into the safety of general public and also the general population of inmates as sadly there are some in there as innocent as you or i.
You can't see a reason for trying to prevent murders?You think it's better just to deal with the perpetrators after they have killed someone because that's safer for the general public?
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snowlynx: That's a good point. It's better to study these people as there is something to be learned from them, perhaps. Even after their death from old age their brains should be examined to see if any clues lie there.
Studies including MRI scans of prisoner's brains are coming up with some interesting stuff about psychopathy.Waiting until autopsy is a bit behind the times.
Y'know, like, there's an app for it now.
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No idea why its all capitals ..sorry about that..wasnt my intention 
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donal63: Think ruth Ellis was the last person to be hanged? read about her think she a bit of a noose woman
Bad form 
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MetaMaus: hmm, that might be and that's okay as long as you understood it
I also understood it when in its first form 
I just dont agree!!
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OnlyLiveTwice: Oh really? Why?
Erm.....coz ill use my fingers to type what i feel about a post...not hide behind a 
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deedee123xo: Bad form
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MetaMaus: That is illogic
You think understanding an analogy is he same as acceptance of it???
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donal63: little me
I'm off to bed now,no point in hanging about on this thread 
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donal63: I'm off to bed now,no point in hanging about on this thread
You cruisin for a bruisin Donal..Night
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deedee123xo: What do you think happens Jac while it takes you two centuries to figure out how to stop them???? more and more people die!!
Its not an emotional outburst...dont take he capitals which i stated was a mistake as an outburst!! im being read by text not by physicality.
I dont believe there will ever be a day when this is prevented....there is no answer...you have no control over anyones nature but your own...
You can educate all you want....you wont ever eradicate choice.
I dont believe there is any other way of counselling someone to extract 'truths' can be done in any other form other than talking.Its not an emotional outburst...dont take he capitals which i stated was a mistake as an outburst!! im being read by text not by physicality.
I dont believe there will ever be a day when this is prevented....there is no answer...you have no control over anyones nature but your own...
You can educate all you want....you wont ever eradicate choice.
Funnily enough i dont want anyone to die.
Same as you
We are differing sides of the same coin.
You gave your quotes and figures of your side Jac....did i take that to being dramatic?
I did the same with what i know as truth of some murderers...its not drama its debate.
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deedee123xo: I dont believe there is any other way of counselling someone to extract 'truths' can be done in any other form other than talking.
Funnily enough i dont want anyone to die.
Same as you
We are differing sides of the same coin.
You gave your quotes and figures of your side Jac....did i take that to being dramatic?
I did the same with what i know as truth of some murderers...its not drama its debate.
And it's clear you know nothing about research methodology, psychology, psychiatry, medicine, technology, ethics, logic, debate techniques, or anything other than a gut reaction that it's okay to kill people whether they are guilty, or innocent because you think it will make the world a better place.Funnily enough i dont want anyone to die.
Same as you
We are differing sides of the same coin.
You gave your quotes and figures of your side Jac....did i take that to being dramatic?
I did the same with what i know as truth of some murderers...its not drama its debate.
We're not on opposite sides of the same coin, we're an entirely different currency.
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donal63: I'm off to bed now,no point in hanging about on this thread
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OnlyLiveTwice: Historically, capital punishment has been used in almost every part of the world. Currently, the large majority of countries have either abolished or discontinued the practice.
What's your opinion?
no to murder.( even in the form of capital punishment. )What's your opinion?
people who murder obviously are in a sick state of mind when they are carrying out the act.
it is not a sane nor normal thing to do.
as fellow humans we should care for the sick ,not harm them or try to imitate them by murdering them.
it is necessary to keep them locked up in a safe environment for the protection of the public.
as healthy fellow human beings , we need to realise its a case of there but for the grace of god go I. (or nature and nurture if you will) and treat them humanely.
its sicking to read of all the wrong reasons that some people put forward when considering whether the death penalty should be in place or not. ...ie, money , study them , revenge, etc .
when the reason for caring for others is because they are fellow human beings . (albeit ill)
sometimes folk get confused regards the illness of others because crazy and sane features reside within them. they can be clever n smart n high i.q. etc, similar to psychopaths ...but then the illness pops out and the crime occurs. some folk like to point to the clever traits of offenders , who can act n deceive n manipulate etc...and use that to say that the offenders are sane n not crazy. well folks are wrong about that because when people are carrying out horrific and vile crimes ….at that time the crazy aspect of themselves have popped out and crossed that line from sane to mad .
I recall watching a programme on ted bundy onetime,...and yes he was on the one hand quiet clever , but on the other obviously very ill guy.
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The death penalty is not about punishment, it's about retribution. When you condone retribution in the criminal justice system you're condoning the very worst of human behaviour. The courts should be above that and display more awareness.
And of course, here in the uk, they do.
And of course, here in the uk, they do.
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