It is beginning to feel like the USA Autumn 1962 (45)
Estonia and Latvia are just as close to Moscow and are NATO members .
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epirb: Estonia and Latvia are just as close to Moscow and are NATO members .
Nope. Ukraine is closer to Moscow as the crow flies anyways. 
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epirb: Estonia and Latvia are just as close to Moscow and are NATO members .
Sure, But if you dig just a tad deeper you'll get it (Putins perspective).------ This thread is Archived ------
epirb: Estonia and Latvia are just as close to Moscow and are NATO members .
Yes but Estonia & Latvia don’t possess nuclear weapons & are not a threat to Russia, whereas Putin has evidence that Ukraine has .------ This thread is Archived ------
Youcannow: Yes but Estonia & Latvia don’t possess nuclear weapons & are not a threat to Russia, whereas Putin has evidence that Ukraine has .
Ukraine gave up their nukes under pressure from Obama along with thousands of tons of conventional weapons . Putin is a liar . Ukraine was also given the undertaking if it was attacked after giving up their weapons they would be defended .------ This thread is Archived ------
galrads: Nope. Ukraine is closer to Moscow as the crow flies anyways.
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epirb: Ukraine gave up their nukes under pressure from Obama along with thousands of tons of conventional weapons . Putin is a liar . Ukraine was also given the undertaking if it was attacked after giving up their weapons they would be defended .
That’s what they had you believe. NATO have been arming Ukraine ever since the Crimean war .
Boris Johnson admitted it openly.
Even the USA admitted that Ukraine may be producing nuclear & biological weapons , although they didn’t admit funding the project .
There’s no smoke without fire & the west should not take Putin for a fool .
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For some reason, YouTube keeps suggesting this video on my feed....
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Youcannow: That’s what they had you believe.
NATO have been arming Ukraine ever since the Crimean war .
Boris Johnson admitted it openly.
Even the USA admitted that Ukraine may be producing nuclear & biological weapons , although they didn’t admit funding the project .
There’s no smoke without fire & the west should not take Putin for a fool .
Where are these weapons ? If you say they were openly supplied they could be openly used .NATO have been arming Ukraine ever since the Crimean war .
Boris Johnson admitted it openly.
Even the USA admitted that Ukraine may be producing nuclear & biological weapons , although they didn’t admit funding the project .
There’s no smoke without fire & the west should not take Putin for a fool .
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If nato is there with both feet, later, mobile nukes will be not far behind.
Nevermind the 1993 nukes sent east.
Cuba never had nukes either.
Nevermind the 1993 nukes sent east.
Cuba never had nukes either.
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That's not a very good map. As the crows fly...
The Distance between Ukraine and Moscow is 468.5 mile.
The Distance between Latvia and Moscow is 522 miles.
The distance between Moscow and Estonia is 510 miles.
The Distance between Ukraine and Moscow is 468.5 mile.
The Distance between Latvia and Moscow is 522 miles.
The distance between Moscow and Estonia is 510 miles.
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epirb: Where are these weapons ? If you say they were openly supplied they could be openly used .
If you are going to discuss a topic , you should really watch some of the televised UN Security Council meetings . Try to keep an open mind & don’t be blinkered and swayed by the propaganda inflicted by the western media .
We only see images of Ukrainians being affected by the conflict , but not the images of Ukrainians , who launched a random bomb yesterday which killed 20 civilians, including women & children in the Donbas region .
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Youcannow: If you are going to discuss a topic , you should really watch some of the televised UN Security Council meetings .
Try to keep an open mind & don’t be blinkered and swayed by the propaganda inflicted by the western media .
We only see images of Ukrainians being affected by the conflict , but not the images of Ukrainians , who launched a random bomb yesterday which killed 20 civilians, including women & children in the Donbas region .
I don't need lessons from you thanksTry to keep an open mind & don’t be blinkered and swayed by the propaganda inflicted by the western media .
We only see images of Ukrainians being affected by the conflict , but not the images of Ukrainians , who launched a random bomb yesterday which killed 20 civilians, including women & children in the Donbas region .
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galrads: That's not a very good map. As the crows fly...
The Distance between Ukraine and Moscow is 468.5 mile.
The Distance between Latvia and Moscow is 522 miles.
The distance between Moscow and Estonia is 510 miles.
Oh fark that will make a difference to missiles that can travel many more hundreds than that , or do nato use a tire tube to launch them now .The Distance between Ukraine and Moscow is 468.5 mile.
The Distance between Latvia and Moscow is 522 miles.
The distance between Moscow and Estonia is 510 miles.
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epirb: I don't need lessons from you thanks
Then get some facts to support your argument & don’t portray Nato as a peace organisation, when in fact , they are the real instigators of this conflict.------ This thread is Archived ------
epirb: Oh fark that will make a difference to missiles that can travel many more hundreds than that , or do nato use a tire tube to launch them now .
https://armscontrolcenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Ballistic-vs.-Cruise-Missiles-Fact-Sheet.pdfUS gave up its good short range gear .
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epirb: Ukraine gave up their nukes under pressure from Obama along with thousands of tons of conventional weapons . Putin is a liar . Ukraine was also given the undertaking if it was attacked after giving up their weapons they would be defended .
this was part of the start for demonrats to hand ukraine over to russia. obozo wouldn't even allow arms and equipment when russia took back crimea.amazing how blatantly that party can support, equip, and empower terrorism, help advance the people they say are enemies. they use russia as a prop against many yet russia only seems to advance under demonrat control.
why can't people see the obvious? demonrats do not ever have the best interests of nations or citizens at heart. only their own pockets and ties to power.
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Grandsiozzie: If nato is there with both feet, later, mobile nukes will be not far behind.
Nevermind the 1993 nukes sent east.
Cuba never had nukes either.
Nevermind the 1993 nukes sent east.
Cuba never had nukes either.
Gee, I thought there were still 100 Soviet nukes in Cuba when the first cuban missile crisis standoff ended
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epirb: Oh fark that will make a difference to missiles that can travel many more hundreds than that , or do nato use a tire tube to launch them now .
Just the facts 
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Let's not forget the U.S. Monroe document which forbid weapons and hostile actions toward the u.s.a. At its borders.
Now, What happens to this world is something should happen to jumping joe Biden while he visits with nato friendlies and eu leaders in Brussels next week? Remember what Don Corleone taught the world (see below.)
I wish Europeans would Tell Biden to stay home and Zoom the meeting.
Carry on brothers and sisters in Europe.
“But let me say this. I am a superstitious man, a ridiculous failing but I must confess it here. And so if some unlucky accident should befall my youngest son, if some police officer should accidentally shoot him, if he should hang himself while in his jail cell, if new witnesses appear to testify to his guilt, my superstition will make me feel that it was the result of the ill will still borne me by some people here. Let me go further. If my son is struck by a bolt of lightning I will blame some of the people here. If his plane show fall into the sea or his ship sink beneath the waves of the ocean, if he should catch a mortal fever, if his automobile should be struck by a train, such is my superstition that I would blame the ill will felt by people here. Gentlemen, that ill will, that bad luck, I could never forgive. But aside from that let me swear by the souls of my grandchildren that I will never break the peace we have made. After all, are we or are we not better men than those pezzonovanti who have killed countless millions of men in our lifetimes?”