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Jul 21, 2022 9:53 AM CST UK Heatwave
Ten_of_cupss
Ten_of_cupssTen_of_cupssShumen, Bulgaria2 Threads 1,375 Posts
michaelright: Even funnier around here ,, no matter what way the weather goes they still say " it's global warming ' crackpots
Isn't it just...
When it happens to go down to minus 23-25C in the winter we call it a cold front not an Ice age coming.
Same when sometimes it goes up to 40C and above in the summer, it's just a heat wave...
If someone believes climate is not suppose to change, well, think again...
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Jul 21, 2022 9:59 AM CST UK Heatwave
Stringy_Bob
Stringy_BobStringy_BobNeepsntatties, Grampian, Scotland UK17 Threads 3 Polls 586 Posts
bodleing2: We were told it could happen this summer, 40.3C, first time ever 40C has been recorded in the Uk. What a week to spend camping by the beach,. Perfectly clear and calm sea, eight mile long beach with high sandunes, part of it a nudist section for the less inhibited., backdrop of Snowdonia's mountains, a magical ten days fun in the sun.
Hope you brought candy rocks back for everyone.
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Jul 21, 2022 10:20 AM CST UK Heatwave
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
HugeDudeFrom010: Yes, the heatwave.

We are all in terrible danger. We all have to stay in lockdown at home.
To get the temperature down.

Leave the freezer door open all day.
And keep 1,5 meters distance.

Wear a muzzle all day.
And sneeze in the elbow of a vaxed neighbore.

Only together we can save the planet.
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Jul 21, 2022 11:07 AM CST UK Heatwave
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Stringy_Bob: Spare a thought for anyone having to work during this current hot spell.

Not me like. In the garden with a bacon butty and an ice cold bottle of water.

Currently, 29 degrees in the shade. I might take me socks off.
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Jul 21, 2022 11:19 AM CST UK Heatwave
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
Ten_of_cupss: Isn't it just...
When it happens to go down to minus 23-25C in the winter we call it a cold front not an Ice age coming.
Same when sometimes it goes up to 40C and above in the summer, it's just a heat wave...
If someone believes climate is not suppose to change, well, think again...
Of course climate goes through changes, but it's the rate of change that's the cause for concern.
All around the globe the story is the same, in climate sensitive areas the increase in warming is alarming and undeniable. Recent reports from the Himalaya show drastic glacier reduction, many climbers have reported in the course of a few years glaciers have retreated back to heights never previously recorded. The worrying part is it's air temperature not rainfall that's the cause of glacial reduction, a previously unheard of phenomenon.

Even back in the 90's I witnessed first hand the melting of Himalayan glaciers. In fact in one instance while crossing a high mountain pass from the Chitral region to Swat progress was extremely slow due to the route being completey free of ice, leaving a route of loose boulders and muddy morain, our ice axes and crampons being rendered useless. Our porters told us this was the first year the pass had been completely frre of snow and ice. I'm reliably informed the route is still snow and ice free.

On an earlier journey to Tirich Mir base camp crossing the Tirich Glacier was a frightening experience due to the instability of the ice. Sleeping on the edge of the glacier the rumblings and loud cracks were testement to the the rapid deterioration of what was a one mile across body of ice, again I'm told the Tirich glacier has shrunk to half the size it was since I was there.
Tirich Mir (Main) 7,708m/25,288ft.

The story is the same in so many parts of the world. Global warming is a fact, very few people are not accepting that. What is open to question though......is it caused by the burning of fossil fuel, or is there some other reason for this sudden dramatic change in our climate sensitive parts of the world?
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Jul 21, 2022 12:25 PM CST UK Heatwave
Stringy_Bob
Stringy_BobStringy_BobNeepsntatties, Grampian, Scotland UK17 Threads 3 Polls 586 Posts
In case yer wondering baldy, I put the thumb down on post #75 for you.
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Jul 21, 2022 12:31 PM CST UK Heatwave
Ten_of_cupss
Ten_of_cupssTen_of_cupssShumen, Bulgaria2 Threads 1,375 Posts
bodleing2: Of course climate goes through changes, but it's the rate of change that's the cause for concern.
All around the globe the story is the same, in climate sensitive areas the increase in warming is alarming and undeniable. Recent reports from the Himalaya show drastic glacier reduction, many climbers have reported in the course of a few years glaciers have retreated back to heights never previously recorded. The worrying part is it's air temperature not rainfall that's the cause of glacial reduction, a previously unheard of phenomenon.

Even back in the 90's I witnessed first hand the melting of Himalayan glaciers. In fact in one instance while crossing a high mountain pass from the Chitral region to Swat progress was extremely slow due to the route being completey free of ice, leaving a route of loose boulders and muddy morain, our ice axes and crampons being rendered useless. Our porters told us this was the first year the pass had been completely frre of snow and ice. I'm reliably informed the route is still snow and ice free.

On an earlier journey to Tirich Mir base camp crossing the Tirich Glacier was a frightening experience due to the instability of the ice. Sleeping on the edge of the glacier the rumblings and loud cracks were testement to the the rapid deterioration of what was a one mile across body of ice, again I'm told the Tirich glacier has shrunk to half the size it was since I was there.
Tirich Mir (Main) 7,708m/25,288ft.

The story is the same in so many parts of the world. Global warming is a fact, very few people are not accepting that. What is open to question though......is it caused by the burning of fossil fuel, or is there some other reason for this sudden dramatic change in our climate sensitive parts of the world?
According to the science only 10% of the Earth is populated by humans.
We make 0.01% of the Earth's life.
We can hardly do much to change the climate.
Nothing is static, everything changes, and the change doesn't go at the same speed.
It is not a lab experiment, steady and controlled, but a whole lot of influences that this small planet is subjected to.
I don't believe that we cause the climate change . I believe that climate change is natural.
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Jul 21, 2022 12:49 PM CST UK Heatwave
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
Ten_of_cupss: According to the science only 10% of the Earth is populated by humans.
We make 0.01% of the Earth's life.
We can hardly do much to change the climate.
Nothing is static, everything changes, and the change doesn't go at the same speed.
It is not a lab experiment, steady and controlled, but a whole lot of influences that this small planet is subjected to.
I don't believe that we cause the climate change . I believe that climate change is natural.
In response to: I don't believe that we cause the climate change . I believe that climate change is natural
The science you quote disagrees.
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Jul 21, 2022 12:59 PM CST UK Heatwave
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Stringy_Bob: In case yer wondering baldy, I put the thumb down on post #75 for you.
I believe you Bob ! hug teddybear bouquet
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Jul 21, 2022 1:08 PM CST UK Heatwave
secretagent09
secretagent09secretagent09New Jersey Girl in, North Carolina USA198 Threads 4 Polls 7,230 Posts
bodleing2: Of course climate goes through changes, but it's the rate of change that's the cause for concern.
All around the globe the story is the same, in climate sensitive areas the increase in warming is alarming and undeniable. Recent reports from the Himalaya show drastic glacier reduction, many climbers have reported in the course of a few years glaciers have retreated back to heights never previously recorded. The worrying part is it's air temperature not rainfall that's the cause of glacial reduction, a previously unheard of phenomenon.

Even back in the 90's I witnessed first hand the melting of Himalayan glaciers. In fact in one instance while crossing a high mountain pass from the Chitral region to Swat progress was extremely slow due to the route being completey free of ice, leaving a route of loose boulders and muddy morain, our ice axes and crampons being rendered useless. Our porters told us this was the first year the pass had been completely frre of snow and ice. I'm reliably informed the route is still snow and ice free.

On an earlier journey to Tirich Mir base camp crossing the Tirich Glacier was a frightening experience due to the instability of the ice. Sleeping on the edge of the glacier the rumblings and loud cracks were testement to the the rapid deterioration of what was a one mile across body of ice, again I'm told the Tirich glacier has shrunk to half the size it was since I was there.
Tirich Mir (Main) 7,708m/25,288ft.

The story is the same in so many parts of the world. Global warming is a fact, very few people are not accepting that. What is open to question though......is it caused by the burning of fossil fuel, or is there some other reason for this sudden dramatic change in our climate sensitive parts of the world?
thumbs up

Climate change did just start yesterday or last year ....

"Climate change is the long-term alteration in Earth’s climate and weather patterns. It took nearly a century of research and data to convince the vast majority of the scientific community that human activity could alter the climate of our entire planet. In the 1800s, experiments suggesting that human-produced carbon dioxide (CO2) and other gases could collect in the atmosphere and insulate Earth were met with more curiosity than concern. By the late 1950s, CO2 readings would offer some of the first data to corroborate the global warming theory. Eventually an abundance of data, along with climate modeling would show not only that global warming was real, but that it also presented a host of dire consequences."



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Jul 21, 2022 1:19 PM CST UK Heatwave
Ten_of_cupss
Ten_of_cupssTen_of_cupssShumen, Bulgaria2 Threads 1,375 Posts
bodleing2: The science you quote disagrees.
No, it doesn't...
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Jul 21, 2022 1:20 PM CST UK Heatwave
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
Ten_of_cupss: No, it doesn't...
Peer reviewed links?
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Jul 21, 2022 1:27 PM CST UK Heatwave
Tiger_Moth
Tiger_MothTiger_MothYeovil, Somerset, England UK23 Threads 2,833 Posts
secretagent09: Climate change did just start yesterday or last year ....

"Climate change is the long-term alteration in Earth’s climate and weather patterns. It took nearly a century of research and data to convince the vast majority of the scientific community that human activity could alter the climate of our entire planet. In the 1800s, experiments suggesting that human-produced carbon dioxide (CO2) and other gases could collect in the atmosphere and insulate Earth were met with more curiosity than concern. By the late 1950s, CO2 readings would offer some of the first data to corroborate the global warming theory. Eventually an abundance of data, along with climate modeling would show not only that global warming was real, but that it also presented a host of dire consequences."


This doesn't help either very mad

Kylie Jenner has faced a torrent of criticism for her decision to take her private jet on a flight that lasted just 17 minutes. But the practice of taking brief journeys on luxury aircraft appears to be common among the rich and famous despite mounting concerns over the climate crisis.

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Jul 21, 2022 1:28 PM CST UK Heatwave
Ten_of_cupss
Ten_of_cupssTen_of_cupssShumen, Bulgaria2 Threads 1,375 Posts
bodleing2: Peer reviewed links?
Do you really need any links?
0.01% of the life on Earth is changing the climate?
All the planets in our solar system are warming up, did we cause that too?
We just experience it more as we are the only planet that has life on it.
Not a rocket science...
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Jul 21, 2022 1:28 PM CST UK Heatwave
bodleing2: The science you quote disagrees.
Ahjh.... some say that is disputed.
But expect you to repeat it ain't. That's fine.. after all the majority
of scientists say the same. Then it must be true. Yes?
None of them have a dog in the race no? Ok.

waiter
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Jul 21, 2022 1:32 PM CST UK Heatwave
Peer Gynt du lyver! rolling on the floor laughing beer
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Jul 21, 2022 1:39 PM CST UK Heatwave
On second thoughts, Tenofcupps - I could be kinda interested in seeing your pear review.
Do you have any recent ones you can post for us here?smitten

laugh
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Jul 21, 2022 1:48 PM CST UK Heatwave
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
Ten_of_cupss: Do you really need any links?
0.01% of the life on Earth is changing the climate?
All the planets in our solar system are warming up, did we cause that too?
We just experience it more as we are the only planet that has life on it.
Not a rocket science...
Sorry but youre well out of the loop. Also badly informed.....

The planets and moons that are claimed to be warming total roughly eight out of dozens of large bodies in the solar system. Some, like Uranus, may be cooling. All the outer planets have vastly longer orbital periods than Earth, so any climate change on them may be seasonal. Saturn and its moons take 30 Earth years to orbit the Sun, so three decades of observations equates to only 1 Saturnian year. Uranus has an 84-year orbit and 98° axial tilt, so its seasons are extreme. Neptune has not yet completed a single orbit since its discovery in 1846.

This is a round-up of the planets said by sceptics to be experiencing climate change:

Mars: the notion that Mars is warming came from an unfortunate conflation of weather and climate. Based on two pictures taken 22 years apart, assumptions were made that have not proved to be reliable. There is currently no evidence to support claims that Mars is warming at all. More on Mars…
Jupiter: the notion that Jupiter is warming is actually based on predictions, since no warming has actually been observed. Climate models predict temperature increases along the equator and cooling at the poles. It is believed these changes will be catalysed by storms that merge into one super-storm, inhibiting the planet’s ability to mix heat. Sceptical arguments have ignored the fact this is not a phenomenon we have observed, and that the modelled forcing is storm and dust movements, not changes in solar radiation.
Neptune: observations of changes in luminosity on the surface of both Neptune and its largest moon, Triton, have been taken to indicate warming caused by increasedsolar activity. In fact, the brightening is due to the planet’s seasons changing, but very slowly. Summer is coming to Neptune’s southern hemisphere, bringing more sunlight, as it does every 164 years.
Pluto: the warming exhibited by Pluto is not really understood. Pluto’s seasons are the least understood of all: its existence has only been known for a third of its 248 -year orbit, and it has never been visited by a space probe. The ‘evidence’ for climatechange consists of just two observations made in 1988 and 2002. That’s equivalent to observing the Earth’s weather for just three weeks out of the year. Various theories suggest its highly elliptical orbit may play a part, as could the large angle of its rotational axis. One recent paper suggests the length of Pluto’s orbit is a key factor, as with Neptune. Sunlight at Pluto is 900 times weaker than it is at the Earth.

Claims that solar system bodies are heating up due to increased solar activity are clearly wrong. The sun’s output has declined in recent decades. Only Pluto and Neptune are exhibiting increased brightness. Heating attributed to other solar bodies remains unproven.

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Jul 21, 2022 1:52 PM CST UK Heatwave
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
Grandsiozzie: Ahjh.... some say that is disputed.
But expect you to repeat it ain't. That's fine.. after all the majority
of scientists say the same. Then it must be true. Yes?
None of them have a dog in the race no? Ok.
I think people in climate sensitive areas can tell us more than scientists.

"You don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows."
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Jul 21, 2022 2:06 PM CST UK Heatwave
But what if it's natural?
And... how about nuclear that is as clean as a whistle -
Anyhows, times are on your side (that may be an expression I invented now laugh )
so I'll go to my corner moping

beer
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