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Dec 15, 2022 11:53 AM CST EctoLife: The First Baby Factory...what do women think? what do men think?
LeeCharming
LeeCharmingLeeCharmingCardiff, South Glamorgan, Wales UK537 Threads 273 Polls 6,941 Posts

a discussion on the artificial womb...
How long before it is a reality...if not already?
How does it make women feel?
What would the future the like for women?
Is it good or bad for men?
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Dec 15, 2022 11:58 AM CST EctoLife: The First Baby Factory...what do women think? what do men think?
LeeCharming
LeeCharmingLeeCharmingCardiff, South Glamorgan, Wales UK537 Threads 273 Polls 6,941 Posts

a discussion on the artificial womb...
How long before it is a reality...if not already?
How does it make women feel?
What would the future be like for women?
Is it good or bad for men?
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Dec 15, 2022 12:34 PM CST EctoLife: The First Baby Factory...what do women think? what do men think?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
I heard 10 to 15 years if we allow it, if we can be made to see it as a positive somehow. What if abortions were instead bluetoothed into the machine?
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Dec 15, 2022 4:17 PM CST EctoLife: The First Baby Factory...what do women think? what do men think?
Coldheaven
ColdheavenColdheavenNorthern Ireland Belfast, Antrim Ireland13 Threads 1 Polls 3,147 Posts
That's such a lie. A normal human being as opposed to a clone
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Dec 16, 2022 4:03 AM CST EctoLife: The First Baby Factory...what do women think? what do men think?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
ChesneyChrist: I heard 10 to 15 years if we allow it, if we can be made to see it as a positive somehow. What if abortions were instead bluetoothed into the machine?
Pro-life and pro-choice rolled into one would protect all babies and give fathers a right. If dad wants the baby, and mum doesn't, then this is the only way that the baby will not be killed.
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Dec 16, 2022 4:41 AM CST EctoLife: The First Baby Factory...what do women think? what do men think?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
Which admittedly flies in the face of depopulating the world. If women can effectively give their baby up for adoption at the point of conception then it means a lot of orphans. Sometimes dad might take the baby but yes there will be a lot of orphans in a world where no fetus is flushed down the toilet or scrambled with a coat hanger.
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Dec 16, 2022 5:24 AM CST EctoLife: The First Baby Factory...what do women think? what do men think?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
And I don't know how conservatives will respond. Sometimes maybe but often I don't think pro-life has anything to do with the welfare of babies so much the idea that life should contain the heaviest burdens. It's not killing the baby but at the same time you could argue that it's making it too easy for us, a bit too convenient and meet opposition because we are not by any stretch a young country. We'd have to be relatively young to believe that the future should be easier than it is today. Every generation sees itself as the end, as good as it gets so to speak, and when you have an aging population it will be. Our elders had it so much easier than their elders because they outnumbered their parents when they were young, but this is no longer the case.
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Dec 16, 2022 8:08 AM CST EctoLife: The First Baby Factory...what do women think? what do men think?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
And miscarriages, too, of course. If I had my way this is where all the miscarried and aborted babies would end up instead. And also a way to make people as healthy today as they were in the past. A womb as good as a 21 year old woman, less of the spergling sons of dusty womb mums. We need new wombs from somewhere in a world of 60 is the new 40, 40 the new 21. Posterity cannot just be the damaged and deranged offspring of the borderline sterile.
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Dec 17, 2022 8:44 AM CST EctoLife: The First Baby Factory...what do women think? what do men think?
LeeCharming
LeeCharmingLeeCharmingCardiff, South Glamorgan, Wales UK537 Threads 273 Polls 6,941 Posts
ChesneyChrist: I heard 10 to 15 years if we allow it, if we can be made to see it as a positive somehow. What if abortions were instead bluetoothed into the machine?
who knows what technology they already have in underground basesconfused
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Dec 17, 2022 8:46 AM CST EctoLife: The First Baby Factory...what do women think? what do men think?
LeeCharming
LeeCharmingLeeCharmingCardiff, South Glamorgan, Wales UK537 Threads 273 Polls 6,941 Posts
Coldheaven: That's such a lie. A normal human being as opposed to a clone
are you saying cloning can't and has not already been doneconfused i think the chances are it has been done long agodoh
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Dec 17, 2022 8:52 AM CST EctoLife: The First Baby Factory...what do women think? what do men think?
LeeCharming
LeeCharmingLeeCharmingCardiff, South Glamorgan, Wales UK537 Threads 273 Polls 6,941 Posts
ChesneyChrist: Pro-life and pro-choice rolled into one would protect all babies and give fathers a right. If dad wants the baby, and mum doesn't, then this is the only way that the baby will not be killed.
pro life but i suspect the babies would be chipped and programmed lemmings
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Dec 24, 2022 6:01 PM CST EctoLife: The First Baby Factory...what do women think? what do men think?
EricT1981
EricT1981EricT1981Badger, South Dakota USA2 Threads 51 Posts
It will become a reality. It will change the nature of female and male relationships drastically. But then so did the Pill. In fact, male-female relationships are already reeling from modern advances (the Pill, expanded female job market and earnings, independent women), and there sum effect is an increasing emotional distance between men and women. It's vastly harder for most men and women to find a match today versus 20 - 30 years ago. I know that for logical reasons and also from observing my family, which is composed mostly of happily married people (including my own parents). Female independence/earning equality look great on paper, but they make men FAR more dispensible.
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Dec 24, 2022 11:22 PM CST EctoLife: The First Baby Factory...what do women think? what do men think?
gypman
gypmangypmanGermany, Saxony Germany1 Threads 41 Posts
I think, its part of a population control concept.

pilot projects are been tested, then they will be improved and replicited.


BTW: there are many studies on rapidly increasing infertility.

Check yourself and connect the dots.
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Dec 25, 2022 4:40 AM CST EctoLife: The First Baby Factory...what do women think? what do men think?
gypman: I think, its part of a population control concept.

pilot projects are been tested, then they will be improved and replicited.


BTW: there are many studies on rapidly increasing infertility.

Check yourself and connect the dots.
Last time I checked the growth annualy worldwide is about 75million.
From the net I found this-
"What will the population be in 2050?
World population 1980 was 9.8 billion.
World population projected to reach 9.8 billion in 2050, and 11.2 billion in 2100. The current world population of 7.6 billion is expected to reach 8.6 billion in 2030, 9.8 billion in 2050 and 11.2 billion in 2100, according to a new United Nations report being launched today."

About what year do you personally expect negative growth Gypman?
Making the above estimates wrong.
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Dec 25, 2022 4:45 AM CST EctoLife: The First Baby Factory...what do women think? what do men think?
Correction, forget the 1980 (that was 4.4billion)

"What will the population be in 2050?

World population projected to reach 9.8 billion in 2050, and 11.2 billion in 2100... etc"

nerd

I hear this from the anti waxx brigade that the pandemic (or what to call it)
was a major effort to kill us and it's going downhill form here on regarding the number of
people in the planet, but since the covid thingy could not even put a dent in the numbers
I wonder when will this accour?
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Dec 25, 2022 6:36 AM CST EctoLife: The First Baby Factory...what do women think? what do men think?
Ten_of_cupss
Ten_of_cupssTen_of_cupssShumen, Bulgaria2 Threads 1,375 Posts
The highest percentage of abortions is within the age range 20-29.
Most fertile age.
The number of abortions for these women is nearly 30 per 1000 for UK.
That doesn't sound like these women are ready to be responsible for another human being.
I'd rather find a way to prevent unwanted pregnancy that is efficient even for the stupidest of woman.
Then produce genetically enhanced babies
on request.
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Dec 25, 2022 6:46 AM CST EctoLife: The First Baby Factory...what do women think? what do men think?
Not only that Ten (get the adoption system up and running)
but has anybody thought about which way of making babies is more costly:
natural: cost $ 0.00
or artificiale: cost $ A-LOT
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Dec 25, 2022 7:13 AM CST EctoLife: The First Baby Factory...what do women think? what do men think?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
Grandsiozzie: Correction, forget the 1980 (that was 4.4billion)

"What will the population be in 2050?

World population projected to reach 9.8 billion in 2050, and 11.2 billion in 2100... etc"



I hear this from the anti waxx brigade that the pandemic (or what to call it)
was a major effort to kill us and it's going downhill form here on regarding the number of
people in the planet, but since the covid thingy could not even put a dent in the numbers
I wonder when will this accour?
The pandemic simply highlights what we're about in the modern world. The old linger and the young perish. Cheating death is the main focus of attention over giving birth. The average person gets older every year and through the pandemic this person is yet more old still. It was an exaggeration of prior trends where we rob youth of a future to grant old age a security.

But then it begs the question of whether you can cheat death forever? Will the human race eventually become so old that the population crashes?
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Dec 25, 2022 7:27 AM CST EctoLife: The First Baby Factory...what do women think? what do men think?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
ChesneyChrist: The pandemic simply highlights what we're about in the modern world. The old linger and the young perish. Cheating death is the main focus of attention over giving birth. The average person gets older every year and through the pandemic this person is yet more old still. It was an exaggeration of prior trends where we rob youth of a future to grant old age a security.

But then it begs the question of whether you can cheat death forever? Will the human race eventually become so old that the population crashes?
I don't know what the secret to eternal life is but it would involve the end of life as we know it. If we are to live forever no one new can be born and this is what we are heading towards.

But will it actually work? If throughout this century the nursing home we all live in turned into a morgue I would like to believe humanity could still breed. At least some way to give new life a chance even if it involves an artificial womb, you know how sceptical I am about cheating death forever.
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Dec 25, 2022 7:28 AM CST EctoLife: The First Baby Factory...what do women think? what do men think?
Look to Sweden and compare it to the rest of Europe for further
compareson on the effects on the youth of today,
as that country had no lockdowns.

From my recollection mostly youngsters didn't give too much crap;
partied on as usual, some making fun of the whole thing too;
Tik tokkers licking handrails etc.

I think the problem with todays youth is internet
and it's crap- excuse my French.
That isolate more than any pandemic. Jmo
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