Does been "born again" save you ? (9)

Nov 2, 2023 10:23 AM CST Does been "born again" save you ?
Hann56
Hann56Hann56Clane, Kildare Ireland4 Threads 1 Polls 11 Posts
When I first got involved in Christianity, I was shown what Jesus said about been " born again" in John 3:7.

Joh 3:7  Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. 

This had me convinced that if Jesus Christ had spoken these words then who was I to question Jesus Christ himself.

The purpose of this article is to take a closer look at what Jesus had meant and to whom he directed those words he spoke.

Who is the audience ? Nicodemus.

Jesus answered Nicodemus as to his statements in verse 2.

Joh 3:3  Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. 

To assume that Jesus is speaking to you in that verse is to ignore the words " I say unto thee"

Jesus is speaking to Nicodemus not you.

Also in verse 5 " I say unto thee"


The observation in question is context, Jesus is not speaking to you or I.

So we have to move away from what Jesus is speaking about to Nicodemus because the audience is not you.

People today in this generation are not Israel, we are not of the Jews,

We are Gentiles Non Jewish people.

So how is God going to speak to the Gentiles as he has said he would in the scriptures.


Rom 3:29  Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also: 

Israel did not accept God's offer of the kingdom, blindness in part is happened to Israel

Rom_11:11  I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.Rom_11:12  Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?

Rom_11:25  For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

God has put Israel on hold till the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

How has God given salvation to the Gentiles?


Rom_15:16  That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost.


Eph_3:6  That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:


Through the apostle Paul.

Paul was chosen by God to be a minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles.

Paul was given the gospel by the Lord Jesus Christ to give to us Gentiles

Gal 1:11  But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. 
Gal 1:12  For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. 

Here is the gospel which was given to Paul to give to us.

1Co 15:1  Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 
1Co 15:2  By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 
1Co 15:3  For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 

When you trust in Christ to save you, by believing this gospel according to the scriptures you will be saved and sealed.


Eph 1:13  In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Nov 2, 2023 4:25 PM CST Does been "born again" save you ?
I don't know if being born again would save me but it would undoubtedly kill my mother as I am bigger than she is so I'll take my chances with being born once conversing
Nov 2, 2023 5:18 PM CST Does been "born again" save you ?
Yes it does.
Nov 3, 2023 6:06 AM CST Does been "born again" save you ?
Hann56: When I first got involved in Christianity, I was shown what Jesus said about been " born again" in John 3:7.

Joh 3:7  Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. 

This had me convinced that if Jesus Christ had spoken these words then who was I to question Jesus Christ himself.

The purpose of this article is to take a closer look at what Jesus had meant and to whom he directed those words he spoke.

Who is the audience ? Nicodemus.

Jesus answered Nicodemus as to his statements in verse 2.

Joh 3:3  Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. 

To assume that Jesus is speaking to you in that verse is to ignore the words " I say unto thee"

Jesus is speaking to Nicodemus not you.

Also in verse 5 " I say unto thee"


The observation in question is context, Jesus is not speaking to you or I.

So we have to move away from what Jesus is speaking about to Nicodemus because the audience is not you.

People today in this generation are not Israel, we are not of the Jews,

We are Gentiles Non Jewish people.

So how is God going to speak to the Gentiles as he has said he would in the scriptures.


Rom 3:29  Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also: 

Israel did not accept God's offer of the kingdom, blindness in part is happened to Israel

Rom_11:11  I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.Rom_11:12  Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?

Rom_11:25  For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

God has put Israel on hold till the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

How has God given salvation to the Gentiles?


Rom_15:16  That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost.


Eph_3:6  That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:


Through the apostle Paul.

Paul was chosen by God to be a minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles.

Paul was given the gospel by the Lord Jesus Christ to give to us Gentiles

Gal 1:11  But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. 
Gal 1:12  For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. 

Here is the gospel which was given to Paul to give to us.

1Co 15:1  Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 
1Co 15:2  By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 
1Co 15:3  For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 

When you trust in Christ to save you, by believing this gospel according to the scriptures you will be saved and sealed.


Eph 1:13  In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Paul The Globalist!mumbling
Nov 5, 2023 2:57 AM CST Does been "born again" save you ?
1721Lancer
1721Lancer1721LancerAlhama De Murcia, Murcia Spain24 Threads 79 Posts
Well done on displaying your contempt for God and lack of respect.
Nov 5, 2023 3:00 AM CST Does been "born again" save you ?
1721Lancer
1721Lancer1721LancerAlhama De Murcia, Murcia Spain24 Threads 79 Posts
All that is written in the bible is for every reader of it, so you are mistaken if you think being born again doesn't apply to you and every gentile. This is from the perspective of a new Christian but also a former Druid well studied in spiritual matters, who spent 40 years as a pagan.
Nov 5, 2023 5:55 AM CST Does been "born again" save you ?
1721Lancer: Well done on displaying your contempt for God and lack of respect.
nope,just Disrespect and Contempt for those that hijacked the new Judaic Sect!mumbling
Nov 10, 2023 11:07 PM CST Does been "born again" save you ?
KapunaRay
KapunaRayKapunaRayhawaii, Hawaii USA8 Posts
Hann56...
The key words spoken are " Verily, verily. When these are spoken it is meant to LISTEN. What is about to be spoken is very important. Jesus said these words at chosen occasions.
The words are meant for all persons within hearing distance.
Dig deeper in your search, on this comment you missed.

Also stay on one topic, attempts to ramble are fruitless. .
Nov 12, 2023 10:32 AM CST Does been "born again" save you ?
angelsheart_1online today!
angelsheart_1online today!angelsheart_1North Caloocan, Metro Manila Philippines58 Threads 26 Polls 504 Posts
No, we will save through our relationship with God
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