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Jun 30, 2007 10:36 AM CST Personal Judgements
Assets52
Assets52Assets52Littleton, New Hampshire USA125 Threads 2,174 Posts
Who of us place unfair judgements against people here, either from something you read in their profile or from something they have posted in the forums?



I personally have to confess when I read in a guy's profile that he NEVER drinks, I assume he is a recovering alcoholic. My theory is why else would anyone NEVER drink alcohol. dunno




Please feel free to set me straight.
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Jun 30, 2007 10:37 AM CST Personal Judgements
Algarion
AlgarionAlgarionPatras, West Greece Greece183 Threads 2,961 Posts
You mean generally or for alcohol only?
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Jun 30, 2007 10:39 AM CST Personal Judgements
Assets52
Assets52Assets52Littleton, New Hampshire USA125 Threads 2,174 Posts
Alcohol only
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Jun 30, 2007 10:39 AM CST Personal Judgements
bulldog66
bulldog66bulldog66doncaster, UK35 Threads 3,680 Posts
maybee hes a muslim,had a drunken farther or maybee he likes a drink but if he puts that youl think hes an alcholic,ive met a few people on c.s who put trying to stop or sociable smoker but infact do more cancer sticks than an I.C.I. begal..........its how we prejudge that matters
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Jun 30, 2007 10:42 AM CST Personal Judgements
HzChld
HzChldHzChldSomewhere in the middle, Oklahoma USA55 Threads 2,779 Posts
I always make it a point to try to never judge anyone...things are not always as they seem. It is not my responsibility to place judgments.
As far as the alcohol....some just do not like the taste and there are some that are actually allergic to the things alcohol is made up of. hug
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Jun 30, 2007 10:44 AM CST Personal Judgements
constanza
constanzaconstanzaLA, California USA28 Threads 1 Polls 5,159 Posts
very good question; I try not to read too much into statements and to make assumptions immediately, because there are many variables. Over time as I get to know a person I am able to trully understand them. And also our experiences of life are all so unique, our points of view.
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Jun 30, 2007 10:45 AM CST Personal Judgements
Dandelion
DandelionDandelionSouthampton, Hampshire, UK34 Threads 5,236 Posts
I guess its only human nature to pass some form of judgement on another but it depends to what degree, and what its based on. By "unfair" judgement, I take it you mean that the judgement proved to be incorrect??

If that is the case, that would be as a result of making assumptions, would it not? Rather than fact-based. I am not one for making random assumptions about anything, I do try to work with facts.

What is posted on the Forums can be the result of many factors, including, for example, what kind of day one is having at the time, how one feels, etc. I think there are many elements that may need to be taken account of. Therefore, I would tend to judge someone more on direct communication with me. I have had mails in recent times whereby, despite how the person appears on the Forums, have shown their true disposition and even a hidden agenda. So I based my judgements on that rather than a post that may prove to be somewhat subjective at that given time.
JMO. wave
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Jun 30, 2007 10:46 AM CST Personal Judgements
CinVida
CinVidaCinVidaPalm Beach & Broward County, USA1 Threads 98 Posts
I think that is a natural judgment, I have one family member who has been sober for 18 years and another whose a alcoholic so my interpretation of if someone says they never drink and are over the age of 25... That they might of been an alcoholic in the past. But i do my best to not assume anything and rather just be forward/blunt and ask :)

There is so much depth to every individual that nothing they say in such a short space on this website can give you justification to develop and solidify an opinion on them.

For example there are many shades of grey/gray (sp?) between black and white. You might say you don't drink at all but there is always a story behind it.
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Jun 30, 2007 10:48 AM CST Personal Judgements
bulldog66
bulldog66bulldog66doncaster, UK35 Threads 3,680 Posts
so everyone who remembers the seventies n ticks never to the drugs box are reformed crack smoking ,heroine injecting acid heads are they rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Jun 30, 2007 10:52 AM CST Personal Judgements
Assets52
Assets52Assets52Littleton, New Hampshire USA125 Threads 2,174 Posts
Dandy

By unfair judgement I mean it is unfair of me to assume a person is a recovering alcoholic simply because they state they never drink.


My judgement of that person comes from personal experience - being married to a recovering alcoholic for 10 yrs. It was a difficult relationship and I therefore tend to shy away from said people.
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Jun 30, 2007 10:55 AM CST Personal Judgements
rwantin
rwantinrwantinRoyal Oak, Michigan USA17 Threads 8,924 Posts
I don't drink, but I used to (a lot), so I guess I am used to the judgements. In my line of work, someone who does not partake is a bit of a pariah, but there's solace in one thing I noticed: Not drinking seems a bit more accepted here in California. Or at least I feel less like I have grown a third eye in my forehead.
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Jun 30, 2007 10:59 AM CST Personal Judgements
Dandelion
DandelionDandelionSouthampton, Hampshire, UK34 Threads 5,236 Posts
I feel its still probably better to find our the facts though, love, rather than make assumptions. I can understand your wariness but some people simply don't drink. Some are allergic to alcohol, some just don't enjoy it, etc.

I would probably take note of it simply because I do like a glass of wine from time to time. I had a friend who didn't drink at all and when I'd had just ONE glass, she believed me to be an alcoholic!!! dunno doh
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Jun 30, 2007 11:17 AM CST Personal Judgements
gazza74
gazza74gazza74omagh, Tyrone Ireland3 Threads 80 Posts
maybe he don't like the taste of it
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Jun 30, 2007 11:28 AM CST Personal Judgements
classicrockgirl
classicrockgirlclassicrockgirlInverness, Florida USA12 Threads 2,414 Posts
I try not to judge anyone on anything they say or write. Sometimes in the forums one might just be having a bad day. Never thought about them being an alcoholic if they don't drink. Just thought they didn't like it.
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Jun 30, 2007 11:31 AM CST Personal Judgements
SirenLydia
SirenLydiaSirenLydiaBury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England UK45 Threads 2 Polls 4,138 Posts
Hey Assetts how you doing?....wave

Maybe it could seem to be unfair of you to assume

such a thing, but given what you have been through,

it is really self preservation and we all try to

protect ourselves from further hurt.

I have stopped drinking in recent months,

but it is because of the hot flushes which

are unbearable and alcohol makes them more

frequent and even worse!

uh oh devil
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Jun 30, 2007 11:36 AM CST Personal Judgements
constanza
constanzaconstanzaLA, California USA28 Threads 1 Polls 5,159 Posts
so what seems to be happening is that we prejudge the situation often based on our own experiences. Language translated into language, looses its original meaning.
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Jun 30, 2007 11:40 AM CST Personal Judgements
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
Never is a long time. What we resist, persists.

There may be many reasons, as people previously stated, why a person doesn't drink. The bottom line is that it sends a red flag to your intuition. Listen to your intuition. Following your gut isn't unfair to anyone. Not following it is unfair to you.

Do what you think is right. No one else can tell you what that is.

Good luck.

TET
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Jun 30, 2007 12:04 PM CST Personal Judgements
SusieRR
SusieRRSusieRRnortheast, Ohio USA78 Threads 3 Polls 2,122 Posts
I do that too about "never drinks alcohol" but didn't really think about it being a judgment. You're right. Still I have a hard time with the words never and always.

I have so many preconceptions now I doubt that I'll be happy with any one man. The good thing is, I'm ok with it. ;)
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Jun 30, 2007 12:05 PM CST Personal Judgements
bajanblue
bajanbluebajanblueSpeightstown, Saint Peter Barbados344 Threads 1 Polls 3,724 Posts
thumbs up Well said!

Assets, being wary of situations that have caused pain in the past is not judgmental, it is survival instinct. For me, I have a gut reaction to the word 'separated' it makes people untouchable. Judgmental? Maybe, self protective? Heck yes!
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Jun 30, 2007 12:32 PM CST Personal Judgements
solitare
solitaresolitareBariloche, Rio Negro Argentina40 Threads 4,041 Posts
Criticizing, condemning or agreeing with or even seeking explanation for the message of a post is the point, not going after, ridiculing , praising or insulting the poster, is the easiest for many on these forums, especially by those who claim not to judge the poster... it takes less effort to attack the messenger/ poster and is regarded as " a good put down" by those with not enough wit/ intelligence to deal with the message. Personal attacks is the main staple of the Int. Forums.
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