Where Did "Morals" Originate?? ( Archived) (69)

Nov 26, 2007 9:51 AM CST Where Did "Morals" Originate??
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
Hey, Trish!!wave Nice post!hug
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Nov 26, 2007 9:54 AM CST Where Did "Morals" Originate??
A Scientific Theory is a bit more thatn a mere "Theory,it is way beyond a Hypothesis.
(Hate to always have to point this out)

And the Ten Commandmends are actually based on the Code of Hammurabi.
And Morality has to be based on Reason and Reality instead of some disjointed whims!
professor conversing handshake peace
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Nov 26, 2007 9:57 AM CST Where Did "Morals" Originate??
Zeloniy
ZeloniyZeloniyRichmond, Virginia USA51 Threads 1 Polls 1,863 Posts
Hammurabi... Reason and Reality...

yeah that sounds more like it ...
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Nov 26, 2007 10:01 AM CST Where Did "Morals" Originate??
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
Hi Ambrose - thanks wave hug
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Nov 26, 2007 10:07 AM CST Where Did "Morals" Originate??
Btw,youre not going to eat the Hot Dog in that Picture,it's way too cute.
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Nov 26, 2007 10:07 AM CST Where Did "Morals" Originate??
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Nov 26, 2007 10:09 AM CST Where Did "Morals" Originate??
mbcasey
mbcaseymbcaseyNorth Myrtle Beach, South Carolina USA68 Threads 7 Polls 16,449 Posts
Maybe some sense of right and wrong are encoded, but complex moral dilemnas have to be taught. Good people disagree on alot of moral judgements. Neither side is right or wrong...they just disagree. Example? The death penalty.

I use to be for the death penalty, but the more I learned about it, the more I am against it. I am for very harsh life in prison sentences...but I am against the state taking a life. Good people with good moral values can be on either side of this issue.
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Nov 26, 2007 10:21 AM CST Where Did "Morals" Originate??
Zeloniy
ZeloniyZeloniyRichmond, Virginia USA51 Threads 1 Polls 1,863 Posts
Guilt, remorse are hard codded so it's just a matter of intelligence to isolate the cause and avoid negative feelings... I'm pretty sure these feelings are present in animal world...
We don't know from birth that fire is hot or that water is wet. At the same time we hold our breath underwater...
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Nov 26, 2007 10:51 AM CST Where Did "Morals" Originate??
A Moral Code has to enable me to live,on this Earth.
It is not something for the "Hereafter"
Most Moralcodes today are designed to be Impossible to live by.
They are designed to be broken,to instill Guilt.
Guilty people are easily led.
You can't visit the punishment of a Bankrobber onto a person that has never robbed a Bank.He is not going to accept it.
But if you make out,that smelling flowers is a Sin,people that accept it will probably still smell flowers but going to feel guilty about it.
If you don't have enough Criminals,just create a few more of them.
Just make everyone feel guilty,guilty guilty of being alive and being Human.very mad

What is Morality then?

"Judgment to distinguish Right and Wrong,Vision to see the Truth,Courage to act upon it,Dedication to that which is Good,Integrity to stand by the Good at any price!"

Ayn Rand in "ATLAS SHRUGGED"
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Nov 26, 2007 11:06 AM CST Where Did "Morals" Originate??
Zeloniy
ZeloniyZeloniyRichmond, Virginia USA51 Threads 1 Polls 1,863 Posts
Indeed a very interesting point. Guilt is a key to control.

Good and Bad ... there is no light with out darkens. No pure Evil or pure Good... my moral perspective anyway...
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Nov 26, 2007 11:25 AM CST Where Did "Morals" Originate??
jodigirlsfree
jodigirlsfreejodigirlsfreeConway, South Carolina USA48 Threads 1,843 Posts
the inner moral sense or the concept of right from wrong is present at birth...it can be shaped by the general culture or environment in which one lives. It can also be affected by the attitudes of those around them...it is our conscience which gives us the inner ability to look at and evaluate our actions...It helps you to assess a future act and suggests how you would feel if you were to perform that act...More often than not the conscience comes into play after you do something...when acting within your moral sense....a sense of satisfaction or peace is the result, whereas, doing something against our moral sense causes us to feel troubled or distressed.... This sense of fairness is evident in the youngest children...for example... a child is waiting to use the swings..then one child goes in front, ignoring those waiting in line to use that swing....the child will respond *not fair* children even show spontaneously a sense of fairness or moral sense.......professor wave
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Nov 26, 2007 11:52 AM CST Where Did "Morals" Originate??
Zeloniy
ZeloniyZeloniyRichmond, Virginia USA51 Threads 1 Polls 1,863 Posts
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hmm... The child realizes that he/she have been wronged however child that toke the swing feels nothing.

sounds like experience to me...
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Nov 26, 2007 12:27 PM CST Where Did "Morals" Originate??
Konigsberg
KonigsbergKonigsbergJurassic Park (Site B), Nova Scotia Canada57 Threads 3 Polls 8,448 Posts
child that toke (?) confused
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Nov 26, 2007 12:27 PM CST Where Did "Morals" Originate??
Fallingman
FallingmanFallingmanDublin, Ireland29 Threads 12 Polls 11,436 Posts
It's the new drugs for kids programme! rolling on the floor laughing
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Nov 26, 2007 12:30 PM CST Where Did "Morals" Originate??
Zeloniy
ZeloniyZeloniyRichmond, Virginia USA51 Threads 1 Polls 1,863 Posts
fine take snooty mumbling
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Nov 26, 2007 12:31 PM CST Where Did "Morals" Originate??
Konigsberg
KonigsbergKonigsbergJurassic Park (Site B), Nova Scotia Canada57 Threads 3 Polls 8,448 Posts
Oh my! Did i offend you with my ignorance? Sorry about moping giggle
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Nov 26, 2007 12:34 PM CST Where Did "Morals" Originate??
Zeloniy
ZeloniyZeloniyRichmond, Virginia USA51 Threads 1 Polls 1,863 Posts
batting grin ok cho ya netak sdelal? innocent
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Nov 26, 2007 12:35 PM CST Where Did "Morals" Originate??
Fallingman
FallingmanFallingmanDublin, Ireland29 Threads 12 Polls 11,436 Posts
There is no need to be rude!! scold


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Nov 26, 2007 12:38 PM CST Where Did "Morals" Originate??
Zeloniy
ZeloniyZeloniyRichmond, Virginia USA51 Threads 1 Polls 1,863 Posts
snooty mumbling grin laugh you know some times we're wrong but men really don't know when they are wrong so it's better to ask where we're wrong before we can get in to more trouble ...so ... tongue
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Nov 26, 2007 12:42 PM CST Where Did "Morals" Originate??
Konigsberg
KonigsbergKonigsbergJurassic Park (Site B), Nova Scotia Canada57 Threads 3 Polls 8,448 Posts
This one is simple, you were using this one snooty which gave me enough clue that i did hurt your feelings about something confused .... so as a normal moral reaction, i had to appologize. If I made a wrong appology ..give it back to me laugh
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