beggars...... (86)
dougiewaberdeen, UK52 Threads 629 Postsyes i have suffered greatly at the hands of drug addicts who have no respect for anyone nor anything that moves. i've had junkies break into my house and not happy with taking anything they could sell to provide them with their next fix, they trashed the place just for the hell of it. now that i could just about handle but taking by little boy's savings too was just too much for me. i'm sre there are different levels of addiction and not everyone would stoop so low but those who would KILL someone for the price of a fix are not even fit to be called human. it's easy to have an open mind until you've been the victim.
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I believe in working for a living. Ive ben close to being on the streets myself but picked my butt up and dusted it off and clawed my way back.
I believe everyone deserves a chance, and also people do stumble and fall.
I was aproached by a guy in a parking lot last year. He had, been having a dificult weekend and was about to be stranded in a strange town with no gas or way home and a wife. I gave him 20$ and told him if I saw him again Id call the cops. Never saw him again. I hope he wasnt a scammer.
I saw a show once where a guy was hiden camera watched he went to a corner and begged for change at the end of the day he got in hs car drove to a gas station, changed hs cloths and had dinner with his wife and kids. HE made $40,000 a year just spare changing people on the streets like a bum. It makes me leary of people but some are genunly in need and cant get themselfs up...
Thast my 2 cents worth...
I believe everyone deserves a chance, and also people do stumble and fall.
I was aproached by a guy in a parking lot last year. He had, been having a dificult weekend and was about to be stranded in a strange town with no gas or way home and a wife. I gave him 20$ and told him if I saw him again Id call the cops. Never saw him again. I hope he wasnt a scammer.
I saw a show once where a guy was hiden camera watched he went to a corner and begged for change at the end of the day he got in hs car drove to a gas station, changed hs cloths and had dinner with his wife and kids. HE made $40,000 a year just spare changing people on the streets like a bum. It makes me leary of people but some are genunly in need and cant get themselfs up...
Thast my 2 cents worth...
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So there is no poverty, it's all a scam. Thanks. Now we know.
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Key word: Some. I suspect that it is probably true in some or many cases. But at the end of the day, I think I probably got more out of it than he did. 
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Its really a bad scene the way the worlds going. I have heard stories here of children being abducted and being made handicap to make them a part of the begging circuit. Alot of families , poor people do it day in and day out as business.
One lady annoyed me so much , i told her i shall take you to the police and she said oh ya, try it out... we shall see about that one.
Genuinely needy people do exist , but having a birds eye view over the existing situation , helping them find work or offering pay for work or even nothing would be a little cruel at times but worth it , as it might prevent the bigger nexus from hatching more plots.
One lady annoyed me so much , i told her i shall take you to the police and she said oh ya, try it out... we shall see about that one.
Genuinely needy people do exist , but having a birds eye view over the existing situation , helping them find work or offering pay for work or even nothing would be a little cruel at times but worth it , as it might prevent the bigger nexus from hatching more plots.
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well cuss..im in the wrong profession...grrrrrrrrrr..
all my sorry's and hugs go out to you dougie
all my sorry's and hugs go out to you dougie
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yes, i understand that once the need for a fix kicks in they don't think straight and that it becomes the most important thing in their life. i understand the reasons why they'd go looking for an easy target to get the money they need - but that doesn't mean i have to like nor accept it. it's not the person i detest, it's what they allowed themselves to become and while they're in that state they'd happily kick their grandmother to the ground to get what they want. there's no reasoning with them as they're unable to think rationally.
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Yes you are right the keyword was some. I have a big heart and I too give sometimes. However, when I do give, that show stays in my mind.
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yeh i read of a similar scam over here a while back. one guy sat outside a shopping mall with his dog and a card which simply read ' homeless, cold and hungry. please help'. the guy freely admitted that he was making in excess of 50k per year and holidayed abroad 4-5 times per year. must admit, that did make me think twice before giving anything to beggars again. it only takes a few scammers to spoil it for the people who REALLY need it.
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its a sad world we live in my friend..I DO wish you the best....Ive lived in the ghettos too surrounded by gangstas and crack heads, gun shots nightly, police raids a few drs down... its spoky place to be... Hope I never go back...
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I think your right. In acts like that, it’s not about impressions or anything to do with feeling sorry. It’s more about the person that you are inside.
I don’t really do it for them. I do it for myself. I don’t like being grateful from others misfortunes but, I have to admit, I’m grateful that it’s not me out there. I’m no different than the person next to me. It can happen in a heart beat.
I don’t really do it for them. I do it for myself. I don’t like being grateful from others misfortunes but, I have to admit, I’m grateful that it’s not me out there. I’m no different than the person next to me. It can happen in a heart beat.
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yes yes
you are right right right
and better than anyone with addiction
calm the hell down and quit feeling like a victim
youre no better or worse than the rest of us
just different
or are you?
mathematically there are too many people for any of us to be 'original'
question might be
would you rather be right than happy?
cuz it is often a trade off...
you are right right right
and better than anyone with addiction
calm the hell down and quit feeling like a victim
youre no better or worse than the rest of us
just different
or are you?
mathematically there are too many people for any of us to be 'original'
question might be
would you rather be right than happy?
cuz it is often a trade off...
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yes i'm right and yes i'm different. different, in that i am in control of my own mind and can be trusted to do right by others. if you had to make a choice between leaving your kids with myself or with a junkie in your home which one would you choose? i'm sure you sympathise but would you actually TRUST? i know most would not trust a junkie with their kids as far as they could throw them!
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Dude, I know your pain. I've been there myself. You really can't help but hate the person that knocks down your door at 3 in the morning high as a kite and begging you to get the "rats" off them. I've had family members hooked on drugs steal jewlery and beg for money, only to brag about how stupid my father was to lend such a large about to them right outside the front door. And you can't help but feel so angry and hurt that even looking at them makes you sick. And you hate everyone like them because you think they're all the same. So every junkie you see makes you bristle with something like a violent rage.
But you can't hold on to this rage, this hatred. I find there's no point. And the family members are all clean now, with the help of family, friends, and a little forgiveness.
And I feel sorry for the person I see on the corner, who is so high that they can't stand up straight, because I know that rock bottom is a really lonely place, and the fall must've been really long and hard. And if someone tried to help, instead of severing ties with hatred or anger or judgment, maybe that person wouldn't be on that corner.
But you can't hold on to this rage, this hatred. I find there's no point. And the family members are all clean now, with the help of family, friends, and a little forgiveness.
And I feel sorry for the person I see on the corner, who is so high that they can't stand up straight, because I know that rock bottom is a really lonely place, and the fall must've been really long and hard. And if someone tried to help, instead of severing ties with hatred or anger or judgment, maybe that person wouldn't be on that corner.
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i happen to know hundreds of junkies
ost of whom i would trust more than you-
sorry
sweeping generalizations never stand
but i respect your choice to remain right
and i cherish mine to be happy
you are no further from being a possible molester than anyone may be
much less a 'junkie' if thats what you are implying...
a 40 yr old guy -up at 3, 4 and 5 am-pissed off and self righteous?
ya never know...
but i dont get a warm fuzzy responsible balanced feeling...
but thats just me
sorry youve made it all about you, it was a general thread i thot-
and its been replied to in a pretty general way-
but since you asked-theres my answer
ost of whom i would trust more than you-
sorry
sweeping generalizations never stand
but i respect your choice to remain right
and i cherish mine to be happy
you are no further from being a possible molester than anyone may be
much less a 'junkie' if thats what you are implying...
a 40 yr old guy -up at 3, 4 and 5 am-pissed off and self righteous?
ya never know...
but i dont get a warm fuzzy responsible balanced feeling...
but thats just me
sorry youve made it all about you, it was a general thread i thot-
and its been replied to in a pretty general way-
but since you asked-theres my answer
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hey, don't get me wrong. i hate the person they become when they're willing to kill for a quick fix but if they genuinly sought my HELP in an effort to get themselves sorted then i'd do what i can. who knows, if i was able to help them i could be saving some unfortunate pensioner from being their next victim.
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lovely and open sharing
im not sure he's in the market for reason or practicing compassion tho-
at least in this area
im glad youve had opportunity to see the cycle cycle-(lol)
cant think must sleep...
you understand youve been changed and had your eyes opened
i am happy for you...its good to understand these pitfalls
when you are young-
this post was to and for the post captured
im not interested in any arguing...
im not sure he's in the market for reason or practicing compassion tho-
at least in this area
im glad youve had opportunity to see the cycle cycle-(lol)
cant think must sleep...
you understand youve been changed and had your eyes opened
i am happy for you...its good to understand these pitfalls
when you are young-
this post was to and for the post captured
im not interested in any arguing...
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I went from living in a home which I owned, to living with my daughter now. Life does play tricks on us. I have nothing left of my past life but in some ways much better off now.
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I understand about being in a position where life seems hardly worth living, everything seems to be against your survival and there is no more money in your pocket. I've been there. This experience left me with a great deal of compassion for those who find themselves in a dead end - whatever the reason.
Some years later I spent a lot of effort working amongst streetkids and naturally I learned a lot about the problem. The most important things I learned is that:
1)people who are really in need do not ask - they will not find you - you have to find them
2)some peoples problem is not as simple as lack of income or sustanaince - these are the people you refer to as junkies, beggars and scammers.
Some peoples needs can be met with money, food and housing. Those others who are the more visible component however need much more than that. They need to be nursed back to physical, emotional and psychological health before they can start lifting themselves up again. These people need much more than our money - in fact chances are that our money put in their hands just deepen the pit they are in.
Love them and help them - but in the right way
Some years later I spent a lot of effort working amongst streetkids and naturally I learned a lot about the problem. The most important things I learned is that:
1)people who are really in need do not ask - they will not find you - you have to find them
2)some peoples problem is not as simple as lack of income or sustanaince - these are the people you refer to as junkies, beggars and scammers.
Some peoples needs can be met with money, food and housing. Those others who are the more visible component however need much more than that. They need to be nursed back to physical, emotional and psychological health before they can start lifting themselves up again. These people need much more than our money - in fact chances are that our money put in their hands just deepen the pit they are in.
Love them and help them - but in the right way
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