No Oslo they dont.Not a true christian.They may go by the name christian.Thats what i keep trying to get across.U can call ur self anything u want,but unless u adhere to what the name really stands for,ur not what u profess to be.
Paws told about the killings in Canada and then it happened in the Usa.Religion is not an issue for business here.I do not believe in what he stands for, not because he has Muslim upbringing.
Well mindful u dont live here and this a debate about an american presidental canidate.No offense but since ur a followerer of Christ,what u r saying to me about what i said is a little like the pot calling the kettle black????I am not going to fight with u.U being in Spain and me in America,I consider we have no common ground.U have a good day
you are the one who said he was anathema to you because of his father, being muslim-that his bloodline was enuf to have you not give him consideration to even clean a toilet (his father, by the way, wasnt present to teach him anything)
so now you are contradicting yourself and your lovely and clear toilet remark based on the mans heritage can you imagine jesus saying that? i cant
he is not even my chosen candidate but thats not what you said. and it was offensive if you cant admit that, as interment of indians was also wrong well hmmm-you just patted someone on the back for apologizing.
i live in missouri (tho im moving to spain shortly) im from NYC, which im sure in your mind is a strike agin me
as far as i read, we are to make decisions on discernment, not judgement. thats not our business-discernment means steering clear of that which might be harmful if thas what we decide- it has zero to do with trumpeting the perceived sins of others.
and i love paws-but no one on CS is my end all source of information...
Hi there....first of all Obama did not have a muslim upbringing.....his father was posted to Java in Indonesia for work purposes.....as i am sure you are aware....Indonesia is a muslim nation.....Obama went to school there for a few years....schools in england are not called...Church of England schools....they are just schools......so i imagine that he just went to the nearest local school...simple as that...... as i child my parents decided to send me to a private school....it just happened to be a catholic run school....does that make me catholic....NO.....in fact i was born into another religion....my parents just decided that this particular school had the best education facilities in the area..... You said that you don't believe in what Obama stands for.....what do you think he does stand for?......from by perspective he seems like a very welcome breath of fresh air in these polluted times we live in.
You say all the right things but I feel there is no point. The toilet remark, the father was a muslim remark, and telling you you had nothing useful to say because you were in Europe (even though you are not) sort of shows the size of the problem.
Bottom line.....many non-Christians behave in a more Christian way than those who claim and declaim loud and long about their Christianity.
actually this post is super hilarious as you are trying to say im of no account nor welcome in the conversation cuz i dont live in the US
prejudice? yup exclusivity? yup
you are demonstrating the point people in other parts of the world do have access to lots of information and some may be even more informed than many americans
americans are in large apathetic, and busy trying to survive finanially and some are distracted by getting "more stuff" they justify their apathy and it is apparent if you notice the sad percentage of americans with this beautiful right they have to vote, which they love to brag about but dont actually take the action to vote
its a sad state of affairs when a society is so distracted and downtrodden that they dont take advantage of such a blessing
look it up last 4 elections the percentage of voters to the population yet people wanna stand around and monday morning quarterback when they dont even get their butts off the bench to vote
as an american i am ashamed. and there is nothing despicabe about crying out for change in your own country when things have gotten of track that was initially what we were about by and for the people but if only a few people are making decisions the mass has no right to complain about the outcome
so there
ive said all i can say on this topic i apologize to those who have lost interest in the thread due to my excessive posting
OOPS !......yes i am....i read the post about you keeping your nose out cos you are in Spain.....but thought...what the heck!....been following the american campaign quite closely....America is such a huge influence on the whole world on all levels and hopefully if there is a positive change there it will have a knock on effect...I am not an American....but i was thrilled when i heard the news that Obama had one Iowa....
In Portugal the only thing we are excessived about is wine swilling, general shirking of work....not to mention loafing around in the sun....long live Portugal
Very interesting and something that should be considered in your choice.
If you do not ever forward anything else, please forward this to all your contacts...this is very scary to think of what lies ahead of us here in our own United States...better heed this and pray about it and share it.
We checked this out on "snopes.com". It is factual. Check for yourself.
Who is Barack Obama?
Probable U. S. Presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black MUSLIM from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHEIST from Wichita, Kansas. Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii. When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced. Hi s father returned to Kenya. His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia. When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocate to Indonesia. Obama attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta. He also spent two years in a Catholic school.
Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is quick to point out that, "He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school."
Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that that he is not a radical.
Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his son's education.
Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta.
Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world. Since it is politically expedient to be a CH RISTIAN when seeking major public office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background. ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office, he DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead he used the Koran.
Barack Hussein Obama will NOT recite the Pledge of Allegiance nor will he show any reverence for our flag. While others place their hands over their hearts, Obama turns his back to the flag and slouches.
Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential candidacy.
The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside out, what better way to start than at the highest level - through the President of the United States, one of their own!!!!
Do we really know the truth about any of them????? What the hell, Bill Clinton was President and he was a pardoned felon..
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