Are Artists due to their creative tendencies and their more open minded method of expression.... more linked.. to things of the spirit, those things that we can't see, but know (feel) are there?... I am just curious.. because in my experience.. even on these forums. the most spiritually open minded people do tend to be those that are 'creative' in some way.. be it music, painting, poetry. whatever just an observation...
My family are very creative people and we (collectively) as a family have always been very spiritual (kinda hippyish if the truth be know )... so maybe I am just basing this assumption on my own experience..
What do ye think... are they?... and if so.... Why do you think this is the case?
Aries01: Are Artists due to their creative tendencies and their more open minded method of expression.... more linked.. to things of the spirit, those things that we can't see, but know (feel) are there?... I am just curious.. because in my experience.. even on these forums. the most spiritually open minded people do tend to be those that are 'creative' in some way.. be it music, painting, poetry. whatever just an observation...
My family are very creative people and we (collectively) as a family have always been very spiritual (kinda hippyish if the truth be know )... so maybe I am just basing this assumption on my own experience..
What do ye think... are they?... and if so.... Why do you think this is the case?
I think there are a lot of ways to be creative, as in creating a huge summer home in spain ... seriously I get your drift and do tend to think that we (creative cerebral sorts) are more inclined to think spiritually. I'm not sure that discounts others or their connection though.
BnaturAl: I think there are a lot of ways to be creative, as in creating a huge summer home in spain ... seriously I get your drift and do tend to think that we (creative cerebral sorts) are more inclined to think spiritually. I'm not sure that discounts others or their connection though.
Your right.. it does in no way discount others.. just an observation of mine.. that of the traditionally 'creative' people that I know, including some that I observe on here.. they just seem to be more 'spiritual' as opposed to 'religious'.. and really have a need to question the whole thing...
Though of course I am not going to assume that this only applies to us..
Very interesting question. Hmmmmm....I would say yes because of our ability to be open and tune into the vibes that are out there. Artists love to search and be as an expression so that we feel and become the energies around us to master our art. Now that I think about a few the legendary singers or bands, they were indeed more spiritual than the average person.
Aries01: Your right.. it does in no way discount others.. just an observation of mine.. that of the traditionally 'creative' people that I know, including some that I observe on here.. they just seem to be more 'spiritual' as opposed to 'religious'.. and really have a need to question the whole thing...
Though of course I am not going to assume that this only applies to us..
food for thought. I think that religious folks are less spiritual (and more materialistic )because they tend to place their spirit in the hands of someone else, (take less responsibility for self in other words)where truely spirtual people understand that spirit is more self realization than some external ceremony.
BnaturAl: food for thought. I think that religious folks are less spiritual (and more materialistic )because they tend to place their spirit in the hands of someone else, (take less responsibility for self in other words)where truely spirtual people understand that spirit is more self realization than some external ceremony.
I think creative people have a difference way of perceiving and understanding the world.. and I think also we are capable of seeing beauty in the seemingly mundane things around us.. this permits us to 'think outside the box' because we are not prejudiced to the environment around us.. .
e.g. A photographer will see the potential beauty in a homeless old man, pushing a trolly... he will see the human being for who he is and not judge him..
Those who do not use there perceptions in this way will either shudder and see something inconvenient and unpleasant... or something which is to be pitied...
If we agree that creative people have propensity towards these things.. any theories on why?
Aries01: Are Artists due to their creative tendencies and their more open minded method of expression.... more linked.. to things of the spirit, those things that we can't see, but know (feel) are there?... I am just curious.. because in my experience.. even on these forums. the most spiritually open minded people do tend to be those that are 'creative' in some way.. be it music, painting, poetry. whatever just an observation...
My family are very creative people and we (collectively) as a family have always been very spiritual (kinda hippyish if the truth be know )... so maybe I am just basing this assumption on my own experience..
What do ye think... are they?... and if so.... Why do you think this is the case?
The answer to that is no, and the reason for that is tons of people who are not in the least bit creative, have a deep spirituality as well.
Ambrose2007: "Spritiual" - the word everyone loves to use but virtually no one seems interested in defining.
So let's start, Aries, by your telling us what it means to be spiritual. Then I will decide if I - an artistic type - am that.
Spiritual is more internal and personal.. if Spirituality replaced religion for e.g. we would all be free to make our own discoveries and draw our own conclusion as to what 'God' or the universe mean to us..
Our guide morally would also be ourselves and what we reason to be right.. given that most human beings basically want the same things... u would be surprised how much unity this could bring.. religion is a distraction from our own core sense of what is fundamentally right and wrong JMV
Aries01: Your right.. it does in no way discount others.. just an observation of mine.. that of the traditionally 'creative' people that I know, including some that I observe on here.. they just seem to be more 'spiritual' as opposed to 'religious'.. and really have a need to question the whole thing...
Though of course I am not going to assume that this only applies to us..
Hey, how do you know who is spiritual as opposed to religious on here? An individual can be both spiritual and religious, perfectly balanced and not causing any conflicts within his/herself either.
mychelle: The answer to that is no, and the reason for that is tons of people who are not in the least bit creative, have a deep spirituality as well.
I don't believe that 'Spirituality' is the exclusive domain of Artistic/Creative people, just that PROPORTIONATELY' it seems to me that they are.. now given that I only know a limited amount of people, here and in the real world, I am open to being wrong in my assumption...
Would you say (in your experience) that non-creative people are proportionately just as Spiritual (as opposed to religious) and what I mean by that is Spiritual people search... ask questions... religious people (who are not spirtual) just accept the teachings of their religion.. no questions asked
p.s I know this could appear a little arrogant.. not meant to be.. just genuinely curious what people think
bajanblueSpeightstown, Saint Peter Barbados3,724 posts
mychelle: The answer to that is no, and the reason for that is tons of people who are not in the least bit creative, have a deep spirituality as well.
I think that people mistakenly limit the term creative to a very select and exclusive list of pursuits.
Creativity for me is the ability to bring total attention and commitment to an undertaking and to take away a strong feeling of emotional and personal satisfaction when the job is done.
A well laid floor, done with care and love is as creative as the most finely wrought sculpture. Art is in the heart, not in the applause.
Aries01: I think creative people have a difference way of perceiving and understanding the world.. and I think also we are capable of seeing beauty in the seemingly mundane things around us.. this permits us to 'think outside the box' because we are not prejudiced to the environment around us.. .
e.g. A photographer will see the potential beauty in a homeless old man, pushing a trolly... he will see the human being for who he is and not judge him..
Those who do not use there perceptions in this way will either shudder and see something inconvenient and unpleasant... or something which is to be pitied...
If we agree that creative people have propensity towards these things.. any theories on why?
If the photogapher sees beauty in the homeless man it's because he appreciate the homeless man as a human being, and perhaps sees himself in that man. When he captures that picture he prays that he never finds himself in the said position.
mychelle: Hey, how do you know who is spiritual as opposed to religious on here? An individual can be both spiritual and religious, perfectly balanced and not causing any conflicts within his/herself either.
I agree a person can be both... what I refer to are those who do not possess a spiritual element..
And no.. I do not propose to KNOW anything..these are just my thoughts, ideas and views.. they may well be wrong
bajanblue: I think that people mistakenly limit the term creative to a very select and exclusive list of pursuits.
Creativity for me is the ability to bring total attention and commitment to an undertaking and to take away a strong feeling of emotional and personal satisfaction when the job is done.
A well laid floor, done with care and love is as creative as the most finely wrought sculpture. Art is in the heart, not in the applause.
I agree.. like the lovingly decorated home, or meal, creativity and the capacity to be creative is in no way limited to things like music, art, etc.. I just used those as obvious examples...
My sister doesn't paint/draw like the rest of us, but she positively oozes creativity in everything she does... she has a very interesting view of the world too
Aries01: I don't believe that 'Spirituality' is the exclusive domain of Artistic/Creative people, just that PROPORTIONATELY' it seems to me that they are.. now given that I only know a limited amount of people, here and in the real world, I am open to being wrong in my assumption...
Would you say (in your experience) that non-creative people are proportionately just as Spiritual (as opposed to religious) and what I mean by that is Spiritual people search... ask questions... religious people (who are not spirtual) just accept the teachings of their religion.. no questions asked p.s I know this could appear a little arrogant.. not meant to be.. just genuinely curious what people think
Not all religious people accept all that they are being told, thus they seek , search, question thing. This is what a human being is all about. Both spiritual and religious folks question as to why certain things happen during a crisis, a tragedy etc, why did it happen, could it have ben prevented, and why didn't something intervene inorder to prevent it..
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My family are very creative people and we (collectively) as a family have always been very spiritual (kinda hippyish if the truth be know )... so maybe I am just basing this assumption on my own experience..
What do ye think... are they?... and if so.... Why do you think this is the case?