opalbeauty: No, I don't buy into your smear that you love to toss around about Obama because of what Rev. Wright said or even that he has bad judgement in attending his church. If you weigh all of the positive things Obama has done and stood for, him attending Wrights church is very insignificant to me. You are able to defend Obama because that is all you have to use against him and I'm sure you repukes will use it as much as you can. I know Obama is not going to be fooled and he's not going on the defense the way Kerry did.
Obama won't use negative smear tactics. I like knowing what kind of man he is up against so I do my research. I know that's the last thing the republican party wants people to do. He will ignore people like you, Karl Rove and Concad and continue to talk simple truths that Americans can connect with.
This is the difference between you and me Opal.
When I say something favorable or negative about a political opponent I am just being fair and am stating what I believe. Whether it's negative or positive, it is based on doing as much research as possible from numerous sources. This is why I can say both negative and positive about these candidates. I would never say anything positive about someone so I could use it as ammo on a later date.
There's an old adage about people and relationships. It states "when someone is suspicious about their mates fidelity, they are in fact the ones who are cheating". I think I can safely say this holds true in political discussion and you are accusing me of infidelity with that cheap shot you took at my integrity and honesty.
Yes Opal, there are smear tactics are used from all sides. And as a student of this vocation you have learned your lesson well.
Indyfella: No...not arrogant, usually I'm must saying what God knows....
Even God must be a "left winged politician" Concidering His wish for peace and equality amoung human beings.....or being the "god of Mercy" and not the "God of Wars and Nuking whole nations just because of Greed and stupidity and Hatered" !
And "No!" Hagee and Parsley and McCain whom they both endorse are not men of god!
Even the current Pobe has misunderstand the message of his god......it must be because he is not mastering english that well or because God does not talk German or some thing like that, Other wise the Pobe would not pay a visit to Bush and by that humiliating the whole nation of Catholic christians....Would he?
Yes, Michael Moore is brilliant, he never stretches the truth and is really fair and balanced. maybe he should have run for President. He would probably be just as good as the other three we have in the running..
Hot_Single_Dude: Even God must be a "left winged politician" Concidering His wish for peace and equality amoung human beings.....or being the "god of Mercy" and not the "God of Wars and Nuking whole nations just because of Greed and stupidity and Hatered" !
And "No!" Hagee and Parsley and McCain whom they both endorse are not men of god!
Even the current Pobe has misunderstand the message of his god......it must be because he is not mastering english that well or because God does not talk German or some thing like that, Other wise the Pobe would not pay a visit to Bush and by that humiliating the whole nation of Catholic christians....Would he?
It's just too bad that everyone doesn't subscribe to you interpretation of what God is. I'm certain the whole world would be much better off if we had you to lead us in the way we practice or don't practice our religeous beliefs or whether one believes or not.
I am really fascinated by the way you can determine who is and who is not "Men of God" McCain, Parsley and Hagee are not yet I suspect you believe Obama and Wright are...
Sparky55: You are so quick to portray McCain as this or that yet you ignore more substantial facts about Obama. I believe you have termed this as the Republican smear campaign or tactics.
Someone (I believe Tom (Sorry if I am misquoting Tom)) opined that you were a member of the Obama camp. Normally I would dismiss such things but your bias as of late leads me to give this a little more credibility than I had earlier.
I would estimate that 90 - 95 percent of your positions are based on politically biased newspapers, websites and other means. At least that's where your references come from. At least in Obama's case the references are from many sources and speak from at least two opposing sides of the issue.
I would have thought you would have come up with something a little more fair. I know I have come to the defense of Obama when he's been unfairly attacked in the past. And you know I don't support him. In any case, please feel free to do, say or write anything you like and I will do my part in shooting holes thru it. Heck, I may even agree from time to time if you're correct and will do so even though I feel you are incapable of doing the same
And what are your beleifs based on Sparky? Exactly the same way you think Opla,s are!What you say a gainst Obama is also based on what Republican supporters and Boortz styled media telling Obama is a bout!
Ok you live over there! Big Deal! That does not mean any "knowing better" than any other americans , or does it?
You have never told me if you have seen tons of documentaries on:
freedocumentaries.org
And by that getting a little bit more informed a bout what free minded people in your own country are talking a bout , or have you?
Any thing "the other side" tells is lies you feel, and based on devistating teories and a gainst "americans" interest and you are talking a bout Being a member of "Obama Camp" is a horribe Sin or means some thing really dangerous!
Most americans to day if you want it or not have been awaken for years and to day they are all a part of Obama Camp and the Bushney,s have been reveild and almost no body even dares to talk in favor of them in public any more!
I wish Opal is a part of Obama Campain and she will be a fabulous amount of positive energy for that fabulous Storm of Change which hopefully will save your country and the rest of us as well, from endless violence and hatered and gives a new chance to mother earth to recover form years of Right winged indifference and ignorance and lies !
Conrad73: Need I remind you of that Quote??????? BTW,you were about 9 years old when the Vietnam War ended,yet you have the Nerve to talk about people that have been there as if they were Dogs.What do you know about those times other than Hearsay and what your Leftie Friends lie to you about I suppose you're duly impressed by Hanoi-Jane?
AND YOU HAVE THE GALL TO ACCUSE THE CONSERVATIVES ABOUT SMEARING!!
Didn't you say something earlier about name calling?
opalbeauty: Listen to the reporter when she ask "Can I ask you why you are so angry? John McCain..."What?" Reporter....obviously scared...."never mind"
Wow Opal, He really got angry
The left is really reaching into their bag of dirty tricks with this interview and the childish McCain song. I do hope people take a moment and listen to the reporter viseo to discover how frivilous this assertion realy is. Try again, maybe you'll find something
Here's a rebuttal since I didn't really give one earlier but if you actually read this you'll see there is much more to this story than the videos you supplied.
It's a long history and I wont continue it here you can always go to the site if you wish
Make sure you scroll all the way to the bottom....I would like to know why Reagan decided four billion dollars was too much for our soldiers lifes? No man is left behind right Sparky? What does human life really mean in politics? Most people are aware today.
Sparky55: Yes, Michael Moore is brilliant, he never stretches the truth and is really fair and balanced. maybe he should have run for President. He would probably be just as good as the other three we have in the running..
Sure!You finally are changing Sparky
Actually it would be great for the country if Moore gets interested in policy...I bet you he would become a senator at least..... much easier than you ever beleive Sparky
I said "In short Opal, I don't see anything McCain has done in this particular set of events that you have provided worthy of losing your respect unless ofcourse he never had it in the first place." At the time I didn't see this as questioning your honest. Rather I thought it was a question of you judgement and fairness. I can however understand if you took it as an honesty issue and for that I apologize as I really did not wish to convey that message.
As far as your assessment of the Rep convention goes, I think you'll see and you can see in the past that conventions in general are love fests with much hugging and other theatrics. The Democratic convention will be no different other than the faces present.
I do laugh and joke about Obama and Clinton. I can even laugh at the McCain jokes but as I have said before, I will not sit on my hands while someone posts something that is not true (at least to me) without refuting it. Yes, I have my own bias' but I know I have them and I really, really try to keep them in mind when I research information and/or make comments. Not perfect but I believe I'm pretty fair. I can't honestly say that for others and your latest posts are clear examples of the smear tactics you attribute to the Republicans.
I did not attack you because you said something negative about MCCain, I spoke up because what you posted was incorrect and one sided with dubious sources. Much like the several links you have given to things like the McCain song and the videos about Vietnam Vets slamming on McCains participation in the 91 - 93 hearings and other negative ads. I could post the same type of clips about Obama or Clinton but what's the point in that? It would only bring down the same negative responses on me that you have received today. More importantly, it would be unfair and rather nasty.
I said "In short Opal, I don't see anything McCain has done in this particular set of events that you have provided worthy of losing your respect unless ofcourse he never had it in the first place." At the time I didn't see this as questioning your honest. Rather I thought it was a question of you judgement and fairness. I can however understand if you took it as an honesty issue and for that I apologize as I really did not wish to convey that message.
As far as your assessment of the Rep convention goes, I think you'll see and you can see in the past that conventions in general are love fests with much hugging and other theatrics. The Democratic convention will be no different other than the faces present.
I do laugh and joke about Obama and Clinton. I can even laugh at the McCain jokes but as I have said before, I will not sit on my hands while someone posts something that is not true (at least to me) without refuting it. Yes, I have my own bias' but I know I have them and I really, really try to keep them in mind when I research information and/or make comments. Not perfect but I believe I'm pretty fair. I can't honestly say that for others and your latest posts are clear examples of the smear tactics you attribute to the Republicans.
I did not attack you because you said something negative about MCCain, I spoke up because what you posted was incorrect and one sided with dubious sources. Much like the several links you have given to things like the McCain song and the videos about Vietnam Vets slamming on McCains participation in the 91 - 93 hearings and other negative ads. I could post the same type of clips about Obama or Clinton but what's the point in that? It would only bring down the same negative responses on me that you have received today. More importantly, it would be unfair and rather nasty.
Well, I don't hear you laughing anymore. As I already stated I knew I would be attacked for questioning the "War Hero" McCain and questioning his character. I'm not surprised you are not laughing and you're pretending to be so fair and partial. But whoever you think you're impressing by trying to discredit me, it's probably not happening. Others actually already know the truth Sparky.....and it's not always funny is it?
Make sure you scroll all the way to the bottom....I would like to know why Reagan decided four billion dollars was too much for our soldiers lifes? No man is left behind right Sparky? What does human life really mean in politics? Most people are aware today.
Opal, we were discussing McCain not Reagan. I looked at it anyway but could not find what you were referring to. I would agree that none should be left behind. Given my current occupation I would be very foolish not to. Even if I were not a Vet, I would think those POWs deserve our efforts to obtain their release
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is very insignificant to me.
You are able to defend Obama because that is all you have to use against him and I'm sure you repukes will use it as much as you can.
I know Obama is not going to be fooled and he's not going on the defense the way Kerry did.
Obama won't use negative smear tactics. I like knowing what kind of man he is up against so I do my research. I know that's the last thing the republican party wants people to do. He will ignore people like you, Karl Rove and Concad and continue to talk simple truths that Americans can connect with.
This is the difference between you and me Opal.
When I say something favorable or negative about a political opponent I am just being fair and am stating what I believe. Whether it's negative or positive, it is based on doing as much research as possible from numerous sources. This is why I can say both negative and positive about these candidates. I would never say anything positive about someone so I could use it as ammo on a later date.
There's an old adage about people and relationships. It states "when someone is suspicious about their mates fidelity, they are in fact the ones who are cheating". I think I can safely say this holds true in political discussion and you are accusing me of infidelity with that cheap shot you took at my integrity and honesty.
Yes Opal, there are smear tactics are used from all sides. And as a student of this vocation you have learned your lesson well.