Aries01: Sounds like you had something REALLY special and were blessed to have each other.. even if for only a short time.. lots of people NEVER get to have what you two had
Oh. I could leave it at that, but I can't. The reason why I didn't want to marry her was because she had issues with drugs and alcohol. The day she came to me on the couch she convinced me that by being married that would give her the peace she was looking for and get her on track...........Unfortunately, we did seperate while she was pregnant with our last child. We had 3 little girls which I had custody of, Two days after giving birth she dropped the baby off and said good luck....two weeks later she died in a drunk driving auto accident...we actually were only married for 3 months before I asked her to leave...she had hit my 2 oldest girls..She had 2 child endangering charges already 5 domestic violences, and a history of drugs and alcohol........I was dumb enough to think I could "FIX" her...Funny thing is......I still love being a married man. I loved calling her my wife..people aren't perfect...I never wanted it to have ended...I actually hoped she would change...there was a very beautiful side to her to...that is what I was holding onto and that was what I hoped would win out. The bottom line is people are the way they are, there is no changing someone......change comes from within oneself...as a memory I choose to remember the beautiful side, and that is the side our daughters will always hear about.....Hopefully now whatever deamons were inside of her are gone and she is at peace........BUt, this man still believes in marriage...
JMO I am one of those hopless romantic here. I belive in romance marriage and all that. But we differ on the dream! My dream has never been in the stress of orginizing a fancy wedding and going thru the pains of who is in the wedding and who is out. Again it is JMO, But having a wedding, with the fancy dress and cake and the dancing and all that goes with it, takes away from what that day is supose to mean. If I love someone who I am willing to love the rest of my life, I want it to be between the two of us, that is the day we both pledge to each other all our love. So it should be romantic but it should be between the two of us. Any wedding including my own, has been fun, But the groom and Bride rarely even see each other thru that day, being pulled apart in different directions all the time. If I love some one enough to marry them, then I want to be with him on that important day, And it may be me, but I felt like my wedding was all for show, and had nothing to do with love or the way we felt about each other. And it really didn't. the marriage was a desaster! Nope next time if there is a next time it will be all us and about the way we feel. But to say something about men not wanting to get married. I think that is true of both men and women. There are men who want to and some who wont, there are also women who some want to others wont. And it just maybe because of a bad experience, or seeing someone else go thru a bad marriage. Some totally belive in love but do not belive you have to have a paper to say it for you. Lots of reasons. For me I wont say I wont, but I wont get married unless I am totally sure it's right for us.
I am sure this makes no sense, but I have not had any sleep, so if you can't make sense of what I am saying just ignor me. I will e better when I get a little zzzzz's in.
Oh and that all important cake, how many with out a picture can remember what it even looked like.
Its not that we don't want to. Personally, I'd be more then happy to get married. My problem is I have not found a woman yet that wants me. My being in a wheelchair might have something to do with that, I don't.
I've been told before that its possible. So, when I find a woman who won't treat me like crap I'll get married.... However, I'm not going to marry a woman I can't trust. Just like everybody else I guess.
alabamabebe: Good night Tina, I thing we're the last ones up, yours and my name are at the end of every thread! I think we took care of Des good enough!
No I was just trying to see how I can marry you both with out going to jail
Hugz_n_Kissez: I was pulling your chain.... When marriage has to boil down to a pre-nup...for me anyway...it takes away from the trust that individuals should have in each other....It says to me that things are more important than the marriage or relationship....Maybe a contract based on trying one's utmost to have a happy marriage would be better!!!!!!!!!!!
The taking away of trust that individuals have for each other is all in their minds...... What if it was the norm and considered to be folly when someone was not wanting a prenup, indicating a lack of intelligence or soundmindedness? Those "things" that are considered more important than the marriage or relationship could be a lifetime of working to own what little comforts may bring relief in later years...... To "gamble" ones security for the future on anyone else is ludicrous at best.... so not requesting a prenup would be more indicative of mental deficiency, regardless of commitment to a loving relationship...... the two should be seperate... and considered seperate by consenting couples..... Theres the business of love, and the business of personal security.......
Individuals can take a page out of the books of insurance companies.... they are all about insuring the "habits" of people... generally speaking, if an insurance company wont take the risk, than its a bad risk indeed.... and insurance is basically all about money..... so tell me, hypothetically, what insurance company would ever sell a policy based on the success of marriage? They sell them based on death, because the population as a whole tries its very best to live, so its worth the risk..... but noone tries their best to stay married anymore..... thus there is no insurance policy.... it would be a financial disaster.... just like the devastation that comes to individuals without a prenup....
Marriage is just one huge bad business deal.... because it is a contract of financial obligation, and you are gambling that your partner has sound marriage business sense... not to mention honor, trust, and integrity...but of course thats a differant gamble isn't it...? Marriage has nothing to do with keeping people together and loving each other......it is an institution that no longer needs to procure itself to society, as it does not protect either party from the coveting by others, because noone any longer respects its sanctity, as social values and ethics continue to erode......
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