Why do men not want to get married any more? (347)
dazzling_dave: If I get much wider, I won't be able to sit in my chair.
LOL
Good evening gorgeous.
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They cannot afford the expensive women these days??
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Sommerauer71: LOL
Good evening gorgeous.
Good evening gorgeous.
Good evening.
You are quite the flatterer.
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Sommerauer71: Tenorsax
Thank you.
I am sorry if you had to read the subsequent posts as it all went a tad off centre.
Thank you.
I am sorry if you had to read the subsequent posts as it all went a tad off centre.
You are welcome. I almost always seem to be the last in on these. In some I have actually left b4 finishing b/c I realized I'd made some answers ~ 4-6 times and there were no others talk about embarrassing!
Just glad there's still afew here. Nice to meet you.
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HJFinAZ: They cannot afford the expensive women these days??
Who cannot?
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CjTenorSax: You are welcome. I almost always seem to be the last in on these. In some I have actually left b4 finishing b/c I realized I'd made some answers ~ 4-6 times and there were no others talk about embarrassing!
Just glad there's still afew here. Nice to meet you.
Just glad there's still afew here. Nice to meet you.
Lovely to meet you too.
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dazzling_dave: Good evening.
You are quite the flatterer.
You are quite the flatterer.
oH, (adopts pompous Britishness, )
I can be, when the mood suits.
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Moving on with bitterness and anger as many people serves no purpose, least of all the children.
People use children as personal atm machines, quite frankly that disgusts me.
You are right. My recent ex-fiance and I went through this with his ex-wife. She used to call me @ my house and tell me what my fiance and I would do and not do and if he didn't do as she said he would not see the children.
She assaulted me when we went to pick up the kids once - I was stunned one second there is an excited little boy jumping up and dow beside the car while his dad is introducing me and then she starts yanking me out of the car by the hair with her son between us and his sister screaming .. . AND during all that time she was living with another guy and pregnant by him too!!!!!
There was no excuse for that. they were in the middle of a divorce when he and I met. Divorced when we went to get the kids.
My ex-fiance's mother told me it would be that way with any one b/c She didn't want him but didn't want anyone else to be in his life either.
She still causes him so much drama today. That is one thing I won't miss. I never did that with my ex- husband. I loved him so much I wanted him to be happy so I let him go.
People use children as personal atm machines, quite frankly that disgusts me.
You are right. My recent ex-fiance and I went through this with his ex-wife. She used to call me @ my house and tell me what my fiance and I would do and not do and if he didn't do as she said he would not see the children.
She assaulted me when we went to pick up the kids once - I was stunned one second there is an excited little boy jumping up and dow beside the car while his dad is introducing me and then she starts yanking me out of the car by the hair with her son between us and his sister screaming .. . AND during all that time she was living with another guy and pregnant by him too!!!!!
There was no excuse for that. they were in the middle of a divorce when he and I met. Divorced when we went to get the kids.
My ex-fiance's mother told me it would be that way with any one b/c She didn't want him but didn't want anyone else to be in his life either.
She still causes him so much drama today. That is one thing I won't miss. I never did that with my ex- husband. I loved him so much I wanted him to be happy so I let him go.
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welshlady: Why exactly are you on a dating site??
Good question I wonder the same?
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Sommerauer71: Who cannot?
I once had a GF that told me she wanted financial security.... I told her to get a damn job..
I am an avid supporter of the Equal Rights Amendment...
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KingLeo: Guys like him don't listen to reason or care to be educated, I find it's best to walk away and allow them to get crushed under the weight of their ego. Such arrogance pushes people to be the architect of their own destruction.
Hi nice to meet you. Normally, I would still have hope for guys like him, but he really needs a shrink bad. I'm afraid even that might be too late. Such bitterness is a two edged sword; he will either cause himself to have major health problems or he will take it out on the wrong person and i hope it doesn't escalate from this to the physical. In that sense, I guess this is best cause maybe one of us will say something even if not to him but to each other that could hopefully start a little light @ the end of the tunnel for him...A LIGHT OF HOPE.
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theshlobs: Come on ladies - how refreshing is it when you meet a man who "doesn't beleive in marriage"? My four closest girlfriends - all with men who hands down will not be dragged up the aisle, but yet are happy to be having babies with them - because thats more of a commitment than a ring!
So my questions is - if you don't beleive in marriage, but your partner clearly does (what little girl doesn't dream of getting married) then wouldn't you do it just to keep them happy? Aftter all - its not an issue!
Dress, cake, party and holiday - what four reasons do you need!
(And maybe with CS being such a bunch of hopeless romantics this is maybe not the right forum to bring this up in...)
So my questions is - if you don't beleive in marriage, but your partner clearly does (what little girl doesn't dream of getting married) then wouldn't you do it just to keep them happy? Aftter all - its not an issue!
Dress, cake, party and holiday - what four reasons do you need!
(And maybe with CS being such a bunch of hopeless romantics this is maybe not the right forum to bring this up in...)
It is an issue when women make such a huge deal about it.
After all, the exorbitant price of a wedding seems to be more of a hassle than creating a college fund!!! It is more reasonable to have a kid, they cost less.
Why have a cake or a party? Why does it have to be a show? Isn't the solitude of marriage a sacred bond between two people.... why invite a bunch of people who are just there to gossip, eat cake and drink booze.
Forget it. Elope!
Maybe if more women were more willing to make a rational choice by avoiding all these inane expenses then more men would be willing to drop to their knees.
I am willing to get married, but I am not willing to make a spectacle or my love nor will I make my vow or commitment to a women pass under teh scrutiny of people who only know my lover and I by our names.
I will marry a woman who understand this and enjoys similar perspectives.
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dcj22: A few decades ago, it was the men chasing women wanting to get married, now it's the other way around. WTF happened?
I know!!! 
Though having said that, I don't really care either way at the mo.. quite content to never marry tbh.... the standard of guys that I meet generally... can't be bothered.... where are the real men gone???
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HJFinAZ: That did NOT sound like a rant to me... It sounded like a true statement from a woman of sound mind..
Thank you!
Being of sound mind seems to make a person alientated.
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CjTenorSax: Moving on with bitterness and anger as many people serves no purpose, least of all the children.
People use children as personal atm machines, quite frankly that disgusts me.
People use children as personal atm machines, quite frankly that disgusts me.
You are right. My recent ex-fiance and I went through this with his ex-wife. She used to call me @ my house and tell me what my fiance and I would do and not do and if he didn't do as she said he would not see the children.
She assaulted me when we went to pick up the kids once - I was stunned one second there is an excited little boy jumping up and dow beside the car while his dad is introducing me and then she starts yanking me out of the car by the hair with her son between us and his sister screaming .. . AND during all that time she was living with another guy and pregnant by him too!!!!!
There was no excuse for that. they were in the middle of a divorce when he and I met. Divorced when we went to get the kids.
My ex-fiance's mother told me it would be that way with any one b/c She didn't want him but didn't want anyone else to be in his life either.
She still causes him so much drama today. That is one thing I won't miss. I never did that with my ex- husband. I loved him so much I wanted him to be happy so I let him go.
I commend your attitute... and I admire the way that you can be happy for your ex... people aren't possessions... end of... My parents seperated some years ago and I have to hand it to them.. it was the most amicable parting in history.. .there wasn't even a piece of paper signed.. they just talked it out, made the necessary arrangements and got on with it.... so much better that way... I also love the way my Mum has never said a bad word against dad.. ya know cause at the end of the day his is still my dad.. in fact all she has to say is good things about him really... makes me wonder why they even split some times
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Aries01: You are right. My recent ex-fiance and I went through this with his ex-wife. She used to call me @ my house and tell me what my fiance and I would do and not do and if he didn't do as she said he would not see the children.
She assaulted me when we went to pick up the kids once - I was stunned one second there is an excited little boy jumping up and dow beside the car while his dad is introducing me and then she starts yanking me out of the car by the hair with her son between us and his sister screaming .. . AND during all that time she was living with another guy and pregnant by him too!!!!!
There was no excuse for that. they were in the middle of a divorce when he and I met. Divorced when we went to get the kids.
My ex-fiance's mother told me it would be that way with any one b/c She didn't want him but didn't want anyone else to be in his life either.
She still causes him so much drama today. That is one thing I won't miss. I never did that with my ex- husband. I loved him so much I wanted him to be happy so I let him go.
She assaulted me when we went to pick up the kids once - I was stunned one second there is an excited little boy jumping up and dow beside the car while his dad is introducing me and then she starts yanking me out of the car by the hair with her son between us and his sister screaming .. . AND during all that time she was living with another guy and pregnant by him too!!!!!
There was no excuse for that. they were in the middle of a divorce when he and I met. Divorced when we went to get the kids.
My ex-fiance's mother told me it would be that way with any one b/c She didn't want him but didn't want anyone else to be in his life either.
She still causes him so much drama today. That is one thing I won't miss. I never did that with my ex- husband. I loved him so much I wanted him to be happy so I let him go.
I commend your attitute... and I admire the way that you can be happy for your ex... people aren't possessions... end of... My parents seperated some years ago and I have to hand it to them.. it was the most amicable parting in history.. .there wasn't even a piece of paper signed.. they just talked it out, made the necessary arrangements and got on with it.... so much better that way... I also love the way my Mum has never said a bad word against dad.. ya know cause at the end of the day his is still my dad.. in fact all she has to say is good things about him really... makes me wonder why they even split some times
We are not owners of people, or partners.
Lovely post.
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Sommerauer71: But you are not bitter.
You are honest, bitterness is what happened earlier in this thread.
I would not class you as bitter, I would put up there as a decent. honest guy.
Bitterness is one sentence lines, attacking, nastiness.
There is nothing in your post that smacks of that...
Oder?
You are honest, bitterness is what happened earlier in this thread.
I would not class you as bitter, I would put up there as a decent. honest guy.
Bitterness is one sentence lines, attacking, nastiness.
There is nothing in your post that smacks of that...
Oder?
LOL...... My ex is working on getting her masters now..... I go over to her house and cook dinner for her 3 nights a week.... because she will not get away from the books long enough to take care of herself....
I also keep her lawn mowed and back her financially if she needs it....
We have no kind of physical contact.... we have become like a brother and sister to each other.....we talk about subjects connected to her career.... genetics... environmental issues.... some politics....and just maintain a comfortable "presence" with each other...
When you truly love someone, you can transcend the expectations of what love is when you are a couple.... to a new understanding of what it truly means to love.......as a true friend
The one real "loss" in our relationship, was the relationships I built with all her immediate family members.... aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, and of course her family.... i loved them all, and miss them terribly.....
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letitroll: LOL...... My ex is working on getting her masters now..... I go over to her house and cook dinner for her 3 nights a week.... because she will not get away from the books long enough to take care of herself....
I also keep her lawn mowed and back her financially if she needs it....
We have no kind of physical contact.... we have become like a brother and sister to each other.....we talk about subjects connected to her career.... genetics... environmental issues.... some politics....and just maintain a comfortable "presence" with each other...
When you truly love someone, you can transcend the expectations of what love is when you are a couple.... to a new understanding of what it truly means to love.......as a true friend
The one real "loss" in our relationship, was the relationships I built with all her immediate family members.... aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, and of course her family.... i loved them all, and miss them terribly.....
I also keep her lawn mowed and back her financially if she needs it....
We have no kind of physical contact.... we have become like a brother and sister to each other.....we talk about subjects connected to her career.... genetics... environmental issues.... some politics....and just maintain a comfortable "presence" with each other...
When you truly love someone, you can transcend the expectations of what love is when you are a couple.... to a new understanding of what it truly means to love.......as a true friend
The one real "loss" in our relationship, was the relationships I built with all her immediate family members.... aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, and of course her family.... i loved them all, and miss them terribly.....
You know sometimes we gain more than we have lost...
You are a smart man, you know where I am coming from.
I lost a man I loved deeply, but he is still in my life, I look at him, see his pain, wish I could wipe it away.
But you know? I cannot do that, you miss the family connections, you can make contact! If you loved and cherished them, why should that stop?
I understand where you are coming from, a lover stops being your friend.
You know, my ex is American, lovely man, yet I could never see him behind the flowers he brought me home. I wanted him, not flowers or diamonds, just a hug.
We forgot about each other.
Not about marriage, it is about two people who want to be together, if they cannot then it is time to say goodbye.
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...terrific way to get a date here, by the
way....
Well said!