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Jun 19, 2008 8:55 AM CST 2 fuel related tidbits for you
I heard on the radio this morning that in GAZA taxi drivers are concocting their own fuel mixture using cooking oil and kerosene, turpentine and other dangerous substances because gasoline is selling for as much as $27.00 a gallon.

You think oil companies are making a killing? maybe so, but refineries are not. on Oct 26, 2007 the price per share of Valero stock (VLO) hit $75.75 as I type this VLO is trading at $43.80. Go figure!
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Jun 19, 2008 5:42 PM CST 2 fuel related tidbits for you
gentlepaws
gentlepawsgentlepawsAny town, Ontario Canada1,019 Threads 13 Polls 9,583 Posts
In the Toronto area this week, DOT are checking truck fuel tanks for farm gas (Tax reduced) They've busted quite a few drivers.
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Jun 19, 2008 5:44 PM CST 2 fuel related tidbits for you
HJFinAZ
HJFinAZHJFinAZSun CIty, Arizona USA870 Threads 1 Polls 17,068 Posts
gentlepaws: In the Toronto area this week, DOT are checking truck fuel tanks for farm gas (Tax reduced) They've busted quite a few drivers.


I would still like to see every truck in the world shut down for a mere 72 hours...rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing

I wonder what the oil execs would wipe their butts with then??devil
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Jun 19, 2008 5:45 PM CST 2 fuel related tidbits for you
princess49503
princess49503princess49503grand rapids, Michigan USA18 Threads 1 Polls 1,485 Posts
gentlepaws: In the Toronto area this week, DOT are checking truck fuel tanks for farm gas (Tax reduced) They've busted quite a few drivers.




man, if they really wanted to help our economy, they should make things easier for truckers.... doh


if you think about it, everything we buy is delivered by a semi-truck at some point....
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Jun 19, 2008 5:46 PM CST 2 fuel related tidbits for you
HJFinAZ
HJFinAZHJFinAZSun CIty, Arizona USA870 Threads 1 Polls 17,068 Posts
It is a shame Jimmy Jr. don't have the &#**! his old man had..sigh
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Jun 19, 2008 5:46 PM CST 2 fuel related tidbits for you
princess49503
princess49503princess49503grand rapids, Michigan USA18 Threads 1 Polls 1,485 Posts
HJFinAZ: I would still like to see every truck in the world shut down for a mere 72 hours...

I wonder what the oil execs would wipe their butts with then??



yeah, a trucker strike.......head banger
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Jun 19, 2008 5:52 PM CST 2 fuel related tidbits for you
HJFinAZ
HJFinAZHJFinAZSun CIty, Arizona USA870 Threads 1 Polls 17,068 Posts
princess49503: yeah, a trucker strike.......


Jimmy Sr. would have brought these jerks to their knees long ago..applause
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Jun 19, 2008 5:55 PM CST 2 fuel related tidbits for you
princess49503
princess49503princess49503grand rapids, Michigan USA18 Threads 1 Polls 1,485 Posts
HJFinAZ: Jimmy Sr. would have brought these jerks to their knees long ago..



whos Jimmy Sr. and Jimmy Jr.??????





<--------not the brightest star in the sky....
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Jun 19, 2008 6:13 PM CST 2 fuel related tidbits for you
gentlepaws
gentlepawsgentlepawsAny town, Ontario Canada1,019 Threads 13 Polls 9,583 Posts
princess49503: man, if they really wanted to help our economy, they should make things easier for truckers.... if you think about it, everything we buy is delivered by a semi-truck at some point....


Average semi fill-up, $350.00. Then maybe 4 miles to a gallon. We're in big trouble.
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Jun 19, 2008 6:49 PM CST 2 fuel related tidbits for you
skwidwurd
skwidwurdskwidwurdAberdeen, Grampian, Scotland UK37 Threads 631 Posts
seriously, you guys think you're bad but you ain't seen NOTHING YET! in th euk we pay an average £1.23 ($2.40 approx) per LITRE for fuel at the pumps. the average shopping bill has risen by around £20 ($40) per week, household gas incresed by 18% & electricity by 12% a few months back - now we're being told gas is likely to increase by FORTY PERCENT come the winter.meanwhile, the government has asked employers to minimise any wage increases, suggesting that perhaps 2.5%-3% wage increases would suffice!!very mad
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Jun 19, 2008 6:51 PM CST 2 fuel related tidbits for you
reelman90
reelman90reelman90Richmond, Kentucky USA3 Threads 387 Posts
princess49503: whos Jimmy Sr. and Jimmy Jr.??????<--------not the brightest star in the sky....


Jimmy Hoffa
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Jun 19, 2008 7:07 PM CST 2 fuel related tidbits for you
princess49503
princess49503princess49503grand rapids, Michigan USA18 Threads 1 Polls 1,485 Posts
skwidwurd: seriously, you guys think you're bad but you ain't seen NOTHING YET! in th euk we pay an average £1.23 ($2.40 approx) per LITRE for fuel at the pumps. the average shopping bill has risen by around £20 ($40) per week, household gas incresed by 18% & electricity by 12% a few months back - now we're being told gas is likely to increase by FORTY PERCENT come the winter.meanwhile, the government has asked employers to minimise any wage increases, suggesting that perhaps 2.5%-3% wage increases would suffice!!


What you pay for the pumps is not that much more than what we pay....

Shopping for the basics for 1 person ( milk, bread, eggs, bum wipe, etc) is well over $40 a week for us.

For heating, My gas bill to keep my 900 square feet aprtment heated to 62 degrees fahrenheit cost me around $100 dollars a amonth during the winter. AND THAT IS REASONABLE!



If your under the impression that things are cheap here in the U.S., they are not.

And cost of living wage increases??? forget about it.......
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Jun 19, 2008 7:22 PM CST 2 fuel related tidbits for you
skwidwurd
skwidwurdskwidwurdAberdeen, Grampian, Scotland UK37 Threads 631 Posts
princess49503: What you pay for the pumps is not that much more than what we pay....

Shopping for the basics for 1 person ( milk, bread, eggs, bum wipe, etc) is well over $40 a week for us.

For heating, My gas bill to keep my 900 square feet aprtment heated to 62 degrees fahrenheit cost me around $100 dollars a amonth during the winter. AND THAT IS REASONABLE!
If your under the impression that things are cheap here in the U.S., they are not.

And cost of living wage increases??? forget about it.......


i think you musta misread. you guys pay what for fuel? $3.50 per GALLON (approx)? we're paying almost the same for 1 LITRE - which would amount to well over $10 per gallon. Also, i said that basic shopping bills has RISEN by $40 per week. to keep a 900 sq ft apartment at 62 deg over here would cost WELL over $100 per month - which will soon also soon be increased by another 40%.
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Jun 19, 2008 7:26 PM CST 2 fuel related tidbits for you
princess49503
princess49503princess49503grand rapids, Michigan USA18 Threads 1 Polls 1,485 Posts
skwidwurd: i think you musta misread. you guys pay what for fuel? $3.50 per GALLON (approx)? we're paying almost the same for 1 LITRE - which would amount to well over $10 per gallon. Also, i said that basic shopping bills has RISEN by $40 per week. to keep a 900 sq ft apartment at 62 deg over here would cost WELL over $100 per month - which will soon also soon be increased by another 40%.



By reading your posts, I can see you are a very intelligent man....

So, what is the UK doing about this fuel problem?
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Jun 19, 2008 7:34 PM CST 2 fuel related tidbits for you
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
HJFinAZ: I would still like to see every truck in the world shut down for a mere 72 hours...

I wonder what the oil execs would wipe their butts with then??



Oil would go to the world market then....
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Jun 19, 2008 7:37 PM CST 2 fuel related tidbits for you
skwidwurd
skwidwurdskwidwurdAberdeen, Grampian, Scotland UK37 Threads 631 Posts
princess49503: By reading your posts, I can see you are a very intelligent man....

So, what is the UK doing about this fuel problem?


at the moment nobody seems to be doing very much. there are a handful of people (including myself) who have boycotted BP stations and hope that we can persuade enough people in the uk to join in and make BP feel the pinch. if this happens then BP would either HAVE to drop their prices or lobby the government to reduce the fuel tax (which is around 75%). a price war at the pumps is inevitable in the not so distant future. perhaps recession isn't that far away either. house prices have already began to fall for the first time in many years and it's predicted they'll again fall by as much as 10% by the end of the year. the country's going nuts sigh
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Jun 19, 2008 7:41 PM CST 2 fuel related tidbits for you
princess49503
princess49503princess49503grand rapids, Michigan USA18 Threads 1 Polls 1,485 Posts
skwidwurd: at the moment nobody seems to be doing very much. there are a handful of people (including myself) who have boycotted BP stations and hope that we can persuade enough people in the uk to join in and make BP feel the pinch. if this happens then BP would either HAVE to drop their prices or lobby the government to reduce the fuel tax (which is around 75%). a price war at the pumps is inevitable in the not so distant future. perhaps recession isn't that far away either. house prices have already began to fall for the first time in many years and it's predicted they'll again fall by as much as 10% by the end of the year. the country's going nuts



So about the same as the U.S.


it's funny you mention BP........I've seen 2 brand new BP stations shut down after less than a year of business....
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Jun 19, 2008 7:48 PM CST 2 fuel related tidbits for you
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
skwidwurd: at the moment nobody seems to be doing very much. there are a handful of people (including myself) who have boycotted BP stations and hope that we can persuade enough people in the uk to join in and make BP feel the pinch. if this happens then BP would either HAVE to drop their prices or lobby the government to reduce the fuel tax (which is around 75%). a price war at the pumps is inevitable in the not so distant future. perhaps recession isn't that far away either. house prices have already began to fall for the first time in many years and it's predicted they'll again fall by as much as 10% by the end of the year. the country's going nuts



I think I'd boycott the government ..........75% taxes. Hell, that's where your problem is~


JMHO
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Jun 19, 2008 7:53 PM CST 2 fuel related tidbits for you
gentlepaws
gentlepawsgentlepawsAny town, Ontario Canada1,019 Threads 13 Polls 9,583 Posts
I will repeat from my other thread; The world economy and survival is all based on oil. We are running out of it and faster than you think. China and India has entered the car buying arena. North America imports about 70% of its required oil, China must import all of its oil....do the math. Alternatives ? There are none. Hydrogen powered vehicles take oil in order to produce them, as well as any other form of energy producers.

We hit the peak of all remaining oil reserves on this planet in the 70's, we've been sliding down the slope to depletion since.

If you have any doubts about this, just hang on another year, you will see gas hit $6.00 a gallon in N. America, and everything that follows, from food to tooth-picks, because almost everything that is manufactured is done so based on fossil-fuel.

Ever hear of Hubbard's peak?

It is the point at which oil production begins to go down forever. It is the reason behind rising gas prices. The halfway point in supply is called “peak oil,” or also, “Hubbard's Peak.” Dr. Hubbard's predictions were accurate for American reserves, correctly predicting the U.S. had pumped half its reserves by 1970. He made these predictions in the 50's and was laughed out of the profession.

The so called "reserves", are inflated in order to manipulate the oil producers quotas. It's over.
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Jun 19, 2008 7:57 PM CST 2 fuel related tidbits for you
skwidwurd
skwidwurdskwidwurdAberdeen, Grampian, Scotland UK37 Threads 631 Posts
Indyfella: I think I'd boycott the government ..........75% taxes. Hell, that's where your problem is~ JMHO


yes, we all know where the problem lies but we can't fight the government. even if we did somehow manage to persuade them to reduce the fuel tax, they'd just slap the deficit on to cigarettes, alcohol, road tax (which cost over £300 per year if u drive a 4x4) or simply close down yet another school, post office or hospital.
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