What is 'Mind Games' ( Archived) (66)

Aug 19, 2008 2:01 AM CST What is 'Mind Games'
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
Ocee35: Starting an argument so you have an excuse to leave the house and go bar-hopping for the night.

Feigning disinterest in the hopes that the other person will confuse their discomfort with rejection, with an emtional attachment to you.

Attempting to make your partner take responsibily for your bad acts.

Claiming to feel something you don't.

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Yawn

Do people play those games?

Just rubbish and I would not entertain it, why my marriage failed, because my ex husband told me that if he had a loving supportive partner then he would not have had an affair.
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Aug 19, 2008 2:18 AM CST What is 'Mind Games'
Ocee35
Ocee35Ocee35Jackson, Michigan USA69 Threads 2 Polls 3,852 Posts
Sommerauer71: Yawn

Do people play those games?

Just rubbish and I would not entertain it, why my marriage failed, because my ex husband told me that if he had a loving supportive partner then he would not have had an affair.


Some people play those games, I have no doubt, but suspect the reputation is alot worse than the reality.

Behavior is such a subjective topic, and when we're hurting it's much easier to blame and accuse than to look at ourselves.



As with your ex, he may well have believed what he said, and while his logic was terminally flawed,

if he believed what he was saying it wasn't a game, just foolish.
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Aug 19, 2008 2:23 AM CST What is 'Mind Games'
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
Ocee35: Some people play those games, I have no doubt, but suspect the reputation is alot worse than the reality.

Behavior is such a subjective topic, and when we're hurting it's much easier to blame and accuse than to look at ourselves.
As with your ex, he may well have believed what he said, and while his logic was terminally flawed,

if he believed what he was saying it wasn't a game, just foolish.



I agree Ocee with all of what you say.

My ex hubby has grown into his body now, he is a smart guy and had the grace and dignity to apologise to me, we can all be foolish, we can all play games, I have emotionally assaulted him in the past and done it to my ex partner, we all say things when we are angry and hurt.

How we deal with them when we have calmed down and where the people go from that point.
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Aug 19, 2008 2:26 AM CST What is 'Mind Games'
Enduro
EnduroEnduroLaunceston, Tasmania Australia14 Threads 284 Posts
Mind Games can often be cruel - like that joke:

"I don't mind and you don't matter!"
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Aug 19, 2008 2:33 AM CST What is 'Mind Games'
Ocee35
Ocee35Ocee35Jackson, Michigan USA69 Threads 2 Polls 3,852 Posts
Sommerauer71: I agree Ocee with all of what you say.

My ex hubby has grown into his body now, he is a smart guy and had the grace and dignity to apologise to me, we can all be foolish, we can all play games, I have emotionally assaulted him in the past and done it to my ex partner, we all say things when we are angry and hurt.

How we deal with them when we have calmed down and where the people go from that point.


Playing the fool is part of being in situations that are beyond us at the time,

but being in them is the best way to learn how to be in them.


Couldn't agree more, it's all about growing.


What we were is almost nothing, when put on the scale with what we become.
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Aug 19, 2008 2:39 AM CST What is 'Mind Games'
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
Ocee35: Playing the fool is part of being in situations that are beyond us at the time,

but being in them is the best way to learn how to be in them.Couldn't agree more, it's all about growing.What we were is almost nothing, when put on the scale with what we become.



I wonder how long a list is of 'mind games'

You see, I read that people do not play games, I am straight down the line, but subconsciously, I think we do play games. We manipulate.

My brother said something to his girlfriend.

He said to her, 'you know why I like you?' She said no, he said 'Because you let me be me'

She asked him, 'Why do you love me?'

He said, 'Loving you is easy, liking you is the hard part'

I like that.

For women, we think that if our partner loves us, they should do anything, liking us is hard.
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Aug 19, 2008 3:39 PM CST What is 'Mind Games'
Lonely1
Lonely1Lonely1Ottawa, Ontario Canada76 Threads 21 Polls 1,858 Posts
WOW! This topic has more implications than I thought. Methinks I have opened a can of worms! It is blowing my mind!

innocent
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Aug 19, 2008 3:41 PM CST What is 'Mind Games'
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
Lonely1: WOW! This topic has more implications than I thought. Methinks I have opened a can of worms! It is blowing my mind!



Why?
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Aug 19, 2008 4:08 PM CST What is 'Mind Games'
keytone
keytonekeytonePortland, Oregon USA36 Threads 3 Polls 1,686 Posts
Lonely1: WOW! This topic has more implications than I thought. Methinks I have opened a can of worms! It is blowing my mind!
If you want a real defined statement of "mind games" there is a book "Games People Play" it is by Dr. Eric Berne. it depicts several games and also the degrees which can be at higher degree fatal. It is a very small book but reading it can take a bit of time unless you are up on all the nomenclature.
I wish we all read that book, I think it should be required in middle school.
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Aug 19, 2008 4:54 PM CST What is 'Mind Games'
Lonely1
Lonely1Lonely1Ottawa, Ontario Canada76 Threads 21 Polls 1,858 Posts
keytone: If you want a real defined statement of "mind games" there is a book "Games People Play" it is by Dr. Eric Berne. it depicts several games and also the degrees which can be at higher degree fatal. It is a very small book but reading it can take a bit of time unless you are up on all the nomenclature.
I wish we all read that book, I think it should be required in middle school.


I have the 1963 edition. Some of the issues discussed are a little outdated.thanks
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Aug 19, 2008 4:57 PM CST What is 'Mind Games'
Lonely1
Lonely1Lonely1Ottawa, Ontario Canada76 Threads 21 Polls 1,858 Posts
Sommerauer71: Why?


I always thought 'mind games' was a disease us men had. Women had to take extra precautions in case it was contagious. But the real issue is that both men and women do it. There is no reason why women should pretend that men are the evil ones. scold
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Aug 19, 2008 5:05 PM CST What is 'Mind Games'
keytone
keytonekeytonePortland, Oregon USA36 Threads 3 Polls 1,686 Posts
Lonely1: I have the 1963 edition. Some of the issues discussed are a little outdated.
you do?? really?
thumbs up thats cool! just wondering what seemed outdated? Glad to hear you have that book.
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Aug 19, 2008 5:07 PM CST What is 'Mind Games'
Jan1305
Jan1305Jan1305Sunshine and vino, Murcia Spain170 Threads 5,319 Posts
Call me pedantic and criticise me for being so, but I have to say it, and I intend to carry doing so........"What ARE mind Games?" Mind games are plural not singular!

I teach English and have borne the brunt in the past for criticising native English speakers for grammar, punctuation etc, so I desisted, but I can't bear it any longer. I have to speak out on behalf of lovers of the English language. It drives me crazy.

As for the question, mind games are, in my opinion, only perpetrated by people who aren't really seeking a true relationship, so choose to play games. It's not about people who don't think, the opposite in fact, they are often very clever people who are able to spot a weakness in somebody and exploit it.

Sorry for the rant folks, but it was long overdue and now I feel much better.
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Aug 19, 2008 5:09 PM CST What is 'Mind Games'
EnSilencio
EnSilencioEnSilencioAlmunecar, Andalusia Spain13 Threads 2 Polls 1,118 Posts
Lonely1: I always thought 'mind games' was a disease us men had. Women had to take extra precautions in case it was contagious. But the real issue is that both men and women do it. There is no reason why women should pretend that men are the evil ones.


They are right about men being evil. We just try to behave around them. Being online here show a better pattern - where all are truly evil and we need not pretend or behave any longer.

Could all men/women haters please log off right now? (that was not for you, Lonely)
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Aug 19, 2008 5:10 PM CST What is 'Mind Games'
EnSilencio
EnSilencioEnSilencioAlmunecar, Andalusia Spain13 Threads 2 Polls 1,118 Posts
Jan1305: It's not about people who don't think, the opposite in fact, they are often very clever people who are able to spot a weakness in somebody and exploit it.


I know me. thumbs up
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Aug 19, 2008 5:10 PM CST What is 'Mind Games'
HJFinAZ
HJFinAZHJFinAZSun CIty, Arizona USA870 Threads 1 Polls 17,068 Posts
Jan1305: Call me pedantic and criticise me for being so, but I have to say it, and I intend to carry doing so........"What ARE mind Games?" Mind games are plural not singular!

I teach English and have borne the brunt in the past for criticising native English speakers for grammar, punctuation etc, so I desisted, but I can't bear it any longer. I have to speak out on behalf of lovers of the English language. It drives me crazy.

As for the question, mind games are, in my opinion, only perpetrated by people who aren't really seeking a true relationship, so choose to play games. It's not about people who don't think, the opposite in fact, they are often very clever people who are able to spot a weakness in somebody and exploit it.

Sorry for the rant folks, but it was long overdue and now I feel much better.


I have been very careful of late teacher.. I knew you would come back out of your shell before long..wink


hug
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Aug 19, 2008 5:14 PM CST What is 'Mind Games'
Jan1305
Jan1305Jan1305Sunshine and vino, Murcia Spain170 Threads 5,319 Posts
HJFinAZ: I have been very careful of late teacher.. I knew you would come back out of your shell before long..


Had to be done Pat!

And I'm watching you ok?
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Aug 19, 2008 5:41 PM CST What is 'Mind Games'
Lonely1
Lonely1Lonely1Ottawa, Ontario Canada76 Threads 21 Polls 1,858 Posts
Jan1305: Call me pedantic and criticise me for being so, but I have to say it, and I intend to carry doing so........"What ARE mind Games?" Mind games are plural not singular!

I teach English and have borne the brunt in the past for criticising native English speakers for grammar, punctuation etc, so I desisted, but I can't bear it any longer. I have to speak out on behalf of lovers of the English language. It drives me crazy.

As for the question, mind games are, in my opinion, only perpetrated by people who aren't really seeking a true relationship, so choose to play games. It's not about people who don't think, the opposite in fact, they are often very clever people who are able to spot a weakness in somebody and exploit it.

Sorry for the rant folks, but it was long overdue and now I feel much better.


As I said in my previous post, I really did not know what 'mind games' referred to. Many have since enlightened me.

As I said in my previous posts also, and on my profile: I really love/like women. I adore their beauty, intelligence, etc. I have had great relationships with females (Sorry, males not allowed). Many relationships starts out with good intentions, but somewhere along the line things begins to go wrong. Mistakes are made, some never to be forgiven. Do we move on? or do we grin and bear it?

But then, there are those ads that bugs me. Doubts begins to rear its head even before we meet. Who is playing mind games?handshake
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Aug 19, 2008 5:47 PM CST What is 'Mind Games'
HJFinAZ
HJFinAZHJFinAZSun CIty, Arizona USA870 Threads 1 Polls 17,068 Posts
Jan1305: And I'm watching you ok?


I know you are and I am on my best behavior..sigh

But we both know that "AIN'T" very good....tongue


grin




hug
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Aug 19, 2008 6:09 PM CST What is 'Mind Games'
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
Lonely1: I always thought 'mind games' was a disease us men had. Women had to take extra precautions in case it was contagious. But the real issue is that both men and women do it. There is no reason why women should pretend that men are the evil ones.



I can see where you are at.

I agree!

It is a cliche, 'mind games'

I cannot bear the term, we are all players, looking for and seeking, yet we are human.

We play, we seek, we hope that people in the forums see us for who we really are. but yet, these are typed words...


Stef who is gorgeous, got it right, until you meet a person, there is no way you can tell, some people like to see what you write, some people need to have a couple of emails.

I hate the word, the two words 'mind games'

Easy to play on here, not so easy when you meet eye to eye.

Perhaps that is the reason why people here give me a wide berth, because they dare not. Do I care? No!

But I think that if nothing else, I have made some damn great friends.
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