are healings real (244)
ok so here it.....is we got a person that does not believe fine as i stated before you don't have to search me out i'll come to you and prove it....i am skeptical my self of others that say I DONT NEED TO PROVE IT...yes you do need to prove it...i've never seen a open sore healed form a healing it never happened with me..i got to see it also i stated i only have a high school deploma so i don't know anything about hypnosis....i can't hipnotize a chicken...i don't use big words to prove my point i use...if you want to know a big word...(practical
application)...the guy says he's seen fakes....he hasn't seen me....so if someone says I DONT NEED TO PROVE IT...when they know they have the gift or claim to....IS A FAKE....i claim to and i want to prove it
application)...the guy says he's seen fakes....he hasn't seen me....so if someone says I DONT NEED TO PROVE IT...when they know they have the gift or claim to....IS A FAKE....i claim to and i want to prove it
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DICEMAN1: ok so here it.....is we got a person that does not believe fine as i stated before you don't have to search me out i'll come to you and prove it....i am skeptical my self of others that say I DONT NEED TO PROVE IT...yes you do need to prove it...i've never seen a open sore healed form a healing it never happened with me..i got to see it also i stated i only have a high school deploma so i don't know anything about hypnosis....i can't hipnotize a chicken...i don't use big words to prove my point i use...if you want to know a big word...(practical
application)...the guy says he's seen fakes....he hasn't seen me....so if someone says I DONT NEED TO PROVE IT...when they know they have the gift or claim to....IS A FAKE....i claim to and i want to prove it
application)...the guy says he's seen fakes....he hasn't seen me....so if someone says I DONT NEED TO PROVE IT...when they know they have the gift or claim to....IS A FAKE....i claim to and i want to prove it
Diceman .... just because YOU feel the need to prove to the world that you are able to heal doesn't mean that someone who doesn't feel that same need but is just happy helping those around them is a fake ... Just because YOU haven't YET experienced the healing of an open wound doesn't mean it doesn't exist ... You are of course free to express your opinion and your needs.
Making judgements on those who don't have the same needs as you or have had different experiences from you is a little like those who haven't experienced any kind of healing saying that healing doesn't exist ...
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DICEMAN1: i don'y know why i have the gift i know i do i'm not pure of mind or body i dought myself because i'm not pure of mind or body all i know is i have it and it works that's why i say don't follow me i'm the type of person you wouldn't think shold have a gift all i know is i have it and it needs to be used for good..and not to take advantage of people
u asked why i said hmm ?
cos i dont know what to say .. i really dont know you
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crotalus_p: If you under stood the psychology behind healing which you clearly don’t you would know that 2 days is about 1 and 3/4 days more than you need to sell it to the public , as I have said before I have studied many different “healing type” therapies and have yet to find one that does not work on psychology
Mmmmmmmmmmmmm! I just gotta post one more thing to you Crotalus!!!
If you under stood the
The only dangerous people around are those who use psychological games to sell something to the public. They are messing with people's minds. You have just yourself admitted that the type of so called therapies you have learned about amount to little more than "a package to sell to the public" and mind games. The only energy that package carries or uses is the energy of money!!!!
Since you believe that energy healing is about "something that is done with the mind"... and it can be reproduced with the mind ...
... no doubt YOU would be able to reproduce ALL energy that exists on the planet and the universe simply by using psychology and hypnotherapy!! With such super-powers you must be an extra-ordinary person!!
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FlowerOfTheSun: Diceman .... just because YOU feel the need to prove to the world that you are able to heal doesn't mean that someone who doesn't feel that same need but is just happy helping those around them is a fake ... Just because YOU haven't YET experienced the healing of an open wound doesn't mean it doesn't exist ... You are of course free to express your opinion and your needs.
Making judgements on those who don't have the same needs as you or have had different experiences from you is a little like those who haven't experienced any kind of healing saying that healing doesn't exist ...
i am skeptical....and people won't challenge your belief stytem....... your willing to stand up and prove your point of view...ever heard the saying (put up or shut up)....it's selfish of you to not wanting to prove it to anyone......at least your helping someone....isn't that the goal here....only to help the people around you is selfish to the others that need your help...i'm willing to prove my gifts and (if you do have it) so should you ..i'm willing to give you a chance to prove your gifts to me cause i'm a believer (one) just for the amazement and (two) so i don't feel alone in the world....Making judgements on those who don't have the same needs as you or have had different experiences from you is a little like those who haven't experienced any kind of healing saying that healing doesn't exist ...
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DICEMAN1: i am skeptical....and people won't challenge your belief stytem....... your willing to stand up and prove your point of view...ever heard the saying (put up or shut up)....it's selfish of you to not wanting to prove it to anyone......at least your helping someone....isn't that the goal here....only to help the people around you is selfish to the others that need your help...i'm willing to prove my gifts and (if you do have it) so should you ..i'm willing to give you a chance to prove your gifts to me cause i'm a believer (one) just for the amazement and (two) so i don't feel alone in the world....
Why the need to prove yourself? To those of us who are skeptics...you will never prove anything. H-e-l-l-o????
If you were able to heal someone such a I...you would be world famous. Oh, I know, you don't seek fame or fortune. But you would be famous anyway.
Prove yourself to you, others be damned!!
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uhhh i am sooo lost here ... the Q was do u believe in healers .. but its turned to proving or showing if one has a gift ...
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FlowerOfTheSun: Mmmmmmmmmmmmm! I just gotta post one more thing to you Crotalus!!!
Translation : you said you "I'm now out of here!!!"
but you ego wanted the last word
FlowerOfTheSun: If you under stood the energy behind healing which you clearly don’t you would know that 2 days is never enough It's NOT about learning SOMETHING to sell it to the public , as I have said before I have NOT needed to study many different “healing type” therapies as I was born with the ability to use energy for healing.
Congratulations you managed to con your self
FlowerOfTheSun: The only dangerous people around are those who use psychological games to sell something to the public. They are messing with people's minds. You have just yourself admitted that the type of so called therapies you have learned about amount to little more than "a package to sell to the public" and mind games. The only energy that package carries or uses is the energy of money!!!!
No some of the people genuinely believed in what they where teaching, I am not the dangerous one because I under stand what happens , how it happens and why it happens
FlowerOfTheSun: Since you believe that energy healing is about "something that is done with the mind"... and it can be reproduced with the mind ... no doubt YOU would be able to reproduce ALL energy that exists on the planet and the universe simply by using psychology and hypnotherapy!! With such super-powers you must be an extra-ordinary person!!
I know that it is all in the mind Now you are just talking nonsense
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DICEMAN1: i am skeptical....and people won't challenge your belief stytem....... your willing to stand up and prove your point of view...ever heard the saying (put up or shut up)....it's selfish of you to not wanting to prove it to anyone......at least your helping someone....isn't that the goal here....only to help the people around you is selfish to the others that need your help...i'm willing to prove my gifts and (if you do have it) so should you ..i'm willing to give you a chance to prove your gifts to me cause i'm a believer (one) just for the amazement and (two) so i don't feel alone in the world....
Diceman you don't need to feel alone in the world, there are many people who are able to energy heal ... do some searches on the internet and get in touch with some of them in your area ...
I do not feel the need to "push" healing onto people or clamour that I can help in order to validate what I do, nor do I feel the need to prove it to you. Your needs are yours to deal with ...
It has nothing to do with selfishness, I just have faith that those who need my help, sometimes through the most amazing circumstances, our paths are made to cross ... sometimes for a short time, sometimes for longer. Whichever way, I don't "force it". It either happens or it doesn't ... When it does, it is always a positive experience.
"Put up or shut up" has no place in the realm of positive energy ...
Crotalus ... I have a daughter who is 24, a son who is 20 and I worked with teenagers for many years. Don't mistake my patience in dealing with arrogance, "the know it all mind" and explaining once more, with ego.
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I did not read all 10 pages I admit.I will say this,most of us are skeptical of things we don't see or we can't know how it works.Also if you grew up never experiening something,then you may ? it.I was skeptical about Jesus and Holy Spirit at 1 time.I beleived in Gid but that was it,until I felt the Holy Spirit in me and Jesus without verbal words spoke to me and said"you are healed of this affliction".And I was.Ifyou havn't been there hard to describe,any supernatural or very unusual practice.Ex:Ufo's
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FlowerOfTheSun: I have a daughter who is 24, a son who is 20 and I worked with teenagers for many years. Don't mistake my patience in dealing with arrogance, "the know it all mind" and explaining once more , with ego.
O Im sorry did having children suddenly become a mitigating factor in weather you are right or as in your case not ?????
There is noting wrong with being arrogant when your right
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FlowerOfTheSun: Diceman you don't need to feel alone in the world, there are many people who are able to energy heal ... do some searches on the internet and get in touch with some of them in your area ...
I do not feel the need to "push" healing onto people or clamour that I can help in order to validate what I do, nor do I feel the need to prove it to you. Your needs are yours to deal with ...
It has nothing to do with selfishness, I just have faith that those who need my help, sometimes through the most amazing circumstances, our paths are made to cross ... sometimes for a short time, sometimes for longer. Whichever way, I don't "force it". It either happens or it doesn't ... When it does, it is always a positive experience. "Put up or shut up" has no place in the realm of positive energy ... Crotalus ... I have a daughter who is 24, a son who is 20 and I worked with teenagers for many years. Don't mistake my patience in dealing with arrogance, "the know it all mind" and explaining once more , with ego.
first let me apologize to you i shouldn't have been so rude by stateing "put up or shut up"...there was no cause for it...but i do want to say when you see a suffering person do you let them come to you of do you go to them...i do think crotus is right you did let your ego get the best of you..you didn't have to say i'm otta here then come back for the last jab....heres some advise for you don't let anybody get you so upset that it'll maake you do something wrong i think you should apologize to crotus and state your beliefs thet'll be something very kind of you to do you don't need the negative energy that your bringing apon yourself...he's not doing it to you your doing it to yourself he's just giving his opinion if crotus says to me i don't believe you 'ill say let me prove it to you you give me advise and i thank you for it i'm just returning the favor as for my friend in florida who dose not want to be proven wrong....test me....the only satifaction that you'l get is the fact that your right...and i'll be the first one to say your right (if you are)...but a skiptic can have thier mind changed or atleast dout themselves...why won't you prove me wrong and i'll jump on the ban wagon and call everyone nuts for believing in such nonsence...I do not feel the need to "push" healing onto people or clamour that I can help in order to validate what I do, nor do I feel the need to prove it to you. Your needs are yours to deal with ...
It has nothing to do with selfishness, I just have faith that those who need my help, sometimes through the most amazing circumstances, our paths are made to cross ... sometimes for a short time, sometimes for longer. Whichever way, I don't "force it". It either happens or it doesn't ... When it does, it is always a positive experience. "Put up or shut up" has no place in the realm of positive energy ... Crotalus ... I have a daughter who is 24, a son who is 20 and I worked with teenagers for many years. Don't mistake my patience in dealing with arrogance, "the know it all mind" and explaining once more , with ego.
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If "my friend in Florida" is a reference to me. Get over it. I am not your friend. I don't even know you. I am not looking for satisfaction in any way, either. I simply do not believe, and am not buying into what you are selling.
If you need to prove something to yourself, please do it. Just leave me out of your game. You can not prove a person's beliefs are wrong. People believe what they want. I don't believe in the type of healing you espouse....end of discussion
I'll even go one step further and say thar TO ME you even look dishonest. I go alot on intuition, and there is something about you that makes me put up my guard. I could be totally off base. As I frequently am. But I'll stand my ground
If you need to prove something to yourself, please do it. Just leave me out of your game. You can not prove a person's beliefs are wrong. People believe what they want. I don't believe in the type of healing you espouse....end of discussion
I'll even go one step further and say thar TO ME you even look dishonest. I go alot on intuition, and there is something about you that makes me put up my guard. I could be totally off base. As I frequently am. But I'll stand my ground
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DICEMAN1: first let me apologize to you i shouldn't have been so rude by stateing "put up or shut up"...there was no cause for it...but i do want to say when you see a suffering person do you let them come to you of do you go to them...i do think crotus is right you did let your ego get the best of you..you didn't have to say i'm otta here then come back for the last jab....heres some advise for you don't let anybody get you so upset that it'll maake you do something wrong i think you should apologize to crotus and state your beliefs thet'll be something very kind of you to do you don't need the negative energy that your bringing apon yourself...he's not doing it to you your doing it to yourself he's just giving his opinion if crotus says to me i don't believe you 'ill say let me prove it to you you give me advise and i thank you for it i'm just returning the favor as for my friend in florida who dose not want to be proven wrong....test me....the only satifaction that you'l get is the fact that your right...and i'll be the first one to say your right (if you are)...but a skiptic can have thier mind changed or atleast dout themselves...why won't you prove me wrong and i'll jump on the ban wagon and call everyone nuts for believing in such nonsence...
Diceman thank you for your apology. In answer to your question, if I see someone suffering I offer help. They either decline it or accept it. If they decline it, I respect their decision and do not attempt to change their mind.
As for anything else you mention I have nothing further to say.
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shipoker58: If "my friend in Florida" is a reference to me. Get over it. I am not your friend. I don't even know you. I am not looking for satisfaction in any way, either. I simply do not believe, and am not buying into what you are selling.
If you need to prove something to yourself, please do it. Just leave me out of your game. You can not prove a person's beliefs are wrong. People believe what they want. I don't believe in the type of healing you espouse....end of discussion
I'll even go one step further and say thar TO ME you even look dishonest. I go alot on intuition, and there is something about you that makes me put up my guard. I could be totally off base. As I frequently am. But I'll stand my ground
i think i know what it is...i think i frieghten you but it's ok you don't need to fear me it's just an understanding that your not aware..don't let fear stop you from having an open mind...i'm willing to meet you on your turms...not if you say no to that then my thiories about you are correct...(you look like a dishonest person)...that implys fear you don't have to fear me i'm not a monsterIf you need to prove something to yourself, please do it. Just leave me out of your game. You can not prove a person's beliefs are wrong. People believe what they want. I don't believe in the type of healing you espouse....end of discussion
I'll even go one step further and say thar TO ME you even look dishonest. I go alot on intuition, and there is something about you that makes me put up my guard. I could be totally off base. As I frequently am. But I'll stand my ground
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FlowerOfTheSun:
As for anything else you mention I have nothing further to say.
As for anything else you mention I have nothing further to say.
That’s alright hun I forgive you
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get over yourself....you don't freighten me....I distrust you. Why do you feel the need to prove yourself to me?? I am a nothing and my opinion of you means nothing.
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shipoker58: get over yourself....you don't freighten me....I distrust you. Why do you feel the need to prove yourself to me?? I am a nothing and my opinion of you means nothing.
ship ... he's a heaLer .. not a heaRer
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FlowerOfTheSun: Diceman thank you for your apology. In answer to your question, if I see someone suffering I offer help. They either decline it or accept it. If they decline it, I respect their decision and do not attempt to change their mind.
As for anything else you mention I have nothing further to say.
you should have something to say..you could say (to crotus)..that's your opinion but here's mine...not your unintelligent you don't know what your talking about that's not the way you want people to see you....light and energy what your saying dose not degrade someone i think it would be very good for you to apologize it'll make me respect you more and not don't a truly good person..(ship)....your so against it that your a perfect cantidate for the challenge if not you then one of your close friends that you trust...there you go i even gave you an out...or do you have friends with your same opinionAs for anything else you mention I have nothing further to say.
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If you under stood the psychology behind healing which you clearly don’t you would know that 2 days is about 1 and 3/4 days more than you need to sell it to the public , as I have said before I have studied many different “healing type” therapies and have yet to find one that does not work on psychology