are healings real (244)
Healings are not real!
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crotalus_p: First off I did not read threw the whole thread so forgive me if I am repeating what some one else has said ,
Lets get the TV evangelists out of the way first , they are complete scum that pray on the weak and desperate, people like beni hinn use blatant group hypnosis , and the ones that look into the tv and say stuff like some one is getting healed are doing what is called fishing if you have enough people watching you are going to get a few people that are desperate enough to believe that they have been healed ,
Now as for other healer’s (not the charlatans but the ones that genuinely feel they are healing) it works on the same process as hypnosis if some one believes enough that something can cure/heal them then it is possible to cure or alleviates certain ailments but it will in no way cure some one of a serious disease like cancer or HIV, there are some cases of spontaneous recovery however these are no more common then they are in hospitals
Lets get the TV evangelists out of the way first , they are complete scum that pray on the weak and desperate, people like beni hinn use blatant group hypnosis , and the ones that look into the tv and say stuff like some one is getting healed are doing what is called fishing if you have enough people watching you are going to get a few people that are desperate enough to believe that they have been healed ,
Now as for other healer’s (not the charlatans but the ones that genuinely feel they are healing) it works on the same process as hypnosis if some one believes enough that something can cure/heal them then it is possible to cure or alleviates certain ailments but it will in no way cure some one of a serious disease like cancer or HIV, there are some cases of spontaneous recovery however these are no more common then they are in hospitals
The body has natural abilitys to prevent, fight and eliminate illnesses. Some illneses such as aids or herpies you can not eliminate but like chicken pox you can deal with( when you get chicken pox you allways have it) . Faith healers tend to either prey on or simply help the natural abilitys. Hospitals however do not make any money if you are well.
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crotalus_p: First off I did not read threw the whole thread so forgive me if I am repeating what some one else has said ,
Lets get the TV evangelists out of the way first , they are complete scum that pray on the weak and desperate, people like beni hinn use blatant group hypnosis , and the ones that look into the tv and say stuff like some one is getting healed are doing what is called fishing if you have enough people watching you are going to get a few people that are desperate enough to believe that they have been healed ,
Now as for other healer’s (not the charlatans but the ones that genuinely feel they are healing) it works on the same process as hypnosis if some one believes enough that something can cure/heal them then it is possible to cure or alleviates certain ailments but it will in no way cure some one of a serious disease like cancer or HIV, there are some cases of spontaneous recovery however these are no more common then they are in hospitals
i dont' agree the fact is i did this a few times to nonbeliever and it work if your mind is powerful enough not to believe then i can change your mind about it...as for healing outside wounds i've never done that my healings are internal i've never seen an outside wound heal by my touch..that i would like to see.....if your born with a gift it doesn't get turn off i find it's always on...i try avoiding touching people because i feel it working...i do have people who believe very respectable people to.....Lets get the TV evangelists out of the way first , they are complete scum that pray on the weak and desperate, people like beni hinn use blatant group hypnosis , and the ones that look into the tv and say stuff like some one is getting healed are doing what is called fishing if you have enough people watching you are going to get a few people that are desperate enough to believe that they have been healed ,
Now as for other healer’s (not the charlatans but the ones that genuinely feel they are healing) it works on the same process as hypnosis if some one believes enough that something can cure/heal them then it is possible to cure or alleviates certain ailments but it will in no way cure some one of a serious disease like cancer or HIV, there are some cases of spontaneous recovery however these are no more common then they are in hospitals
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DICEMAN1: i dont' agree the fact is i did this a few times to nonbeliever and it work if your mind is powerful enough not to believe then i can change your mind about it...as for healing outside wounds i've never done that my healings are internal i've never seen an outside wound heal by my touch..that i would like to see.....if your born with a gift it doesn't get turn off i find it's always on...i try avoiding touching people because i feel it working...i do have people who believe very respectable people to.....
It does not matter weather you agree or not we could argue this until the cows come home
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Fallingman: Healings are not real!
On the contrary. Healings happen all the time. Whether people do this themselves, whether people hypnotise themselves or others supposedly do it, whether healers do it or whether they are the catalyst or facilitator..........People get healed. FACT.
So to say that this is not a reality is to talk nonsense.
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BnaturAl: start with looking up apoptosis ... after that I'll give you some other information that will change your mind on 'curative' results. Personally I think we are more able to cure ourselves than we are others, but anothers ability can be undeniable in cure. It is seldom the means that matter so much as the end result. As to serious desease ... most dis-ease is self induced and grows over time, and with enough time can be reversed by coming into 'ease'. Psora, among other things is curable in the dynamic body.
Just more abilities that relgion and gods have stolen from us, as if our fate is in their hands. Its not, it in our own hands, save the totally random events of life of course.
Just more abilities that relgion and gods have stolen from us, as if our fate is in their hands. Its not, it in our own hands, save the totally random events of life of course.
Don't believe in religion myself ... I do believe in a pure higher power/energy which I choose to call God/Devine energy
When "God/s" are used as a means to harnessing that energy within & access "higher" pure resources of energy, I see that as a good thing ... I don't know all the scientific names but do it in a way that works for me ... and stays in the positive, purest intents ...
Great explanation about dis-ease/ease within the body
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hmmm I do believe things like this happen and healers exist but its more of a concept of the past i believe. I would think its rather difficult in todays times to be able to maintain the kind of sanctity and purity of thought , mind and body for people to be able to develop or even maintain such powers or ability.
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crotalus_p: It does not matter weather you agree or not we could argue this until the cows come home
i'm not argueing with you i'm saying nonbeliever start to doubt themselves....i'm wondering if you think you would have someone claiming to have a special gift put there hands on you..if i do it you'll feel the difference if you don't call me a fake..i bet the real people that are fakes wouldn't say that...------ This thread is Archived ------
riyablossom: hmmm I do believe things like this happen and healers exist but its more of a concept of the past i believe. I would think its rather difficult in todays times to be able to maintain the kind of sanctity and purity of thought , mind and body for people to be able to develop or even maintain such powers or ability.
i don'y know why i have the gift i know i do i'm not pure of mind or body i dought myself because i'm not pure of mind or body all i know is i have it and it works that's why i say don't follow me i'm the type of person you wouldn't think shold have a gift all i know is i have it and it needs to be used for good..and not to take advantage of people------ This thread is Archived ------
Aries01: God really works in mysterious ways... I read a book yesterday 'I dared to call him Father' Bilquis Sheikh... amazing story.. she didn't even go looking for God (Jesus) he came looking for her.... she was a high ranking Muslim, from a very privelaged background.... her family were all devout Muslims... she was practicing... not devout... until one day she came across a paragraph in the Quran relating to Jesus the prophet. something spurned her on so she read a little of an old Bible she had one of her servants get her which was in ancient Hebrew or Urdu or something so she could only understand bits... so she left it... soon after she had two incredible vivid dreams.. one where Jesus visits her house and has meals with her.. the other she was looking for Jesus.. and was brought to a mountain top where a man by the name of 'John the Baptist' pointed her the way... she had never even heard of John the Baptist... this story is from 60 years ago.... even reading a Bible would have brought about severe castigation... asking questions possible persecution... really extraordinary story!! have you read it?
No, I have not read it but I will make a note and see if I can find a copy.. I am sure I can and TNX.....
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DICEMAN1: ....
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moris code now
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BnaturAl: . _ _ ... _._ .. _moris code now
Wrong!
Morris code is....Meow Meow meow Meow meow meow Meow meow
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DICEMAN1: i don'y know why i have the gift i know i do i'm not pure of mind or body i dought myself because i'm not pure of mind or body all i know is i have it and it works that's why i say don't follow me i'm the type of person you wouldn't think shold have a gift all i know is i have it and it needs to be used for good..and not to take advantage of people
hmmm ....
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YES.....THEY ARE!
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DICEMAN1: here's a challege for you...you live in florida so do i we'll meet up and put it to the test then you can come back here on cs. to tell everyone i;m for real...do you accept...
Not gonna play your silly games!!
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its only mysterious because you allow him to hide behind a curtain, giving him the power to mesmerize you ... You cant prove he exists, you cant prove jesus or mithras or any of the 22 other ssviors existed, yet you toss you will into its hands of mystery? he's a fabricated magician who can do no more for mankind than man can do for himself.
Don't watch my hands or you'll see the rabbit and that will ruin the mystery..
I'll bet you don't even know the reason why the Roman wanted this so called person dead?