are healings real (244)
FlowerOfTheSun: We all carry God and God's love within us
oopps.....forgot to say...just my opinion!!!!!
Many would disagree with you
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shipoker55: oopps.....forgot to say...just my opinion!!!!!
Many would disagree with you
Many would disagree with you
Hey Ship!! No problem!!! We all have so many different experiences which help form our opinions!!!!!!
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I have healing hands!
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Aries01: God is the only one who can heal... but he does use other people... he sometimes even uses people who do not believe in him... throughout history God has chosen the most unlikely of people to serve him... Paul for e.g. (formally Saul) was a slayer and persecuter of Jews.. he was a total anti-Christian....
I believe in it cause both my Bro and my Nana had the power of healing through prayer... its not something that they shout from the roof about.. its just a gift they have... they can't just switch it on at will either... it doesn't work every time... so it is God who choses who will be healed...
I believe in it cause both my Bro and my Nana had the power of healing through prayer... its not something that they shout from the roof about.. its just a gift they have... they can't just switch it on at will either... it doesn't work every time... so it is God who choses who will be healed...
there goes your free will again
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DICEMAN1: Im a healer i heal people's pain with a touch of my hand..the question is..do you believe in healers is
it fake like those preachers that push people down and say your healed
it fake like those preachers that push people down and say your healed
Have you ever explored Regensis? A friend of mine is a master in this art. I did not believe but I was proven wrong..
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At times, a simple chat can be very "healing"..
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FlowerOfTheSun: Thanks Dennis, I also have level 2 in Reiki healing but I find "the healing energy" I have always channeled more powerful than Reiki. May be because it came to me naturally where as Reiki has to do with attunement
In answer to your being sceptical ... so was I ... until I saw with my own eyes open wound being healed in a few minutes to the stage that would have taken several days, same with burns etc... Until then, when I had "healed" backeaches, migrains etc I always thought my friends/family told me they felt better to be kind to me ....
I discovered I could heal open wounds by accident/in spite of myself when my small nephew showed us a badly infected wound on the inside of his wrist that had got so bad one of the main veins on the inside of his arm was all inflamed up to the inside of his elbow ... At the time (11 pm) we had been visiting another cousin out in the sticks and were about to leave for a 2 hour drive to get back to were we were staying. I instictively grabbed his arm and applied my hand to the wound. I have no idea how long I did this for, but when I took my hand away, the vein had gone back to normal and "all of the infection" had gathered and formed a perfect ball (the size of a large pea) just below the skin at the opening of the wound. We all stood with our jaws hanging including me!!!!!! Anyway, we applied a dressing of clay which
drew the infection out from below the skin and it completely finished healing within a couple of days ....
In answer to your being sceptical ... so was I ... until I saw with my own eyes open wound being healed in a few minutes to the stage that would have taken several days, same with burns etc... Until then, when I had "healed" backeaches, migrains etc I always thought my friends/family told me they felt better to be kind to me ....
I discovered I could heal open wounds by accident/in spite of myself when my small nephew showed us a badly infected wound on the inside of his wrist that had got so bad one of the main veins on the inside of his arm was all inflamed up to the inside of his elbow ... At the time (11 pm) we had been visiting another cousin out in the sticks and were about to leave for a 2 hour drive to get back to were we were staying. I instictively grabbed his arm and applied my hand to the wound. I have no idea how long I did this for, but when I took my hand away, the vein had gone back to normal and "all of the infection" had gathered and formed a perfect ball (the size of a large pea) just below the skin at the opening of the wound. We all stood with our jaws hanging including me!!!!!! Anyway, we applied a dressing of clay which
drew the infection out from below the skin and it completely finished healing within a couple of days ....
A preacher once mentioned to me that if god came down from heven and appeared before me and said I am then I would question my eyes or sanity.
Dennis
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BnaturAl: there goes your free will again
We have the free will to choose how we live our lives and we have the free will to choose God... things like healing etc come from the Holy Spirit, i.e. God..
I have got a challenge for you B.... just as an experiment... ask God for the Holy Spirit, anyone who asks the Holy Spirit of God into their lives won't be denied it... you have to ask with your heart..
I challenge you.. try...as a scientific experiment if you like..
How you will know you have received is you will get a sense of peace, increased clarity, you may have vivid dreams, inspirations, or receive thoughts that have a guiding quality, which you suspect are not coming from you..
Just try it.. I dare you.. God speaks to the most unlikely of people.
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Aries01: Just try it.. I dare you.. God speaks to the most unlikely of people.
Yet so many will not listen..
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Aries01: We have the free will to choose how we live our lives and we have the free will to choose God... things like healing etc come from the Holy Spirit, i.e. God..
I have got a challenge for you B.... just as an experiment... ask God for the Holy Spirit, anyone who asks the Holy Spirit of God into their lives won't be denied it... you have to ask with your heart..
I challenge you.. try...as a scientific experiment if you like..
How you will know you have received is you will get a sense of peace, increased clarity, you may have vivid dreams, inspirations, or receive thoughts that have a guiding quality, which you suspect are not coming from you..
Just try it.. I dare you.. God speaks to the most unlikely of people.
Yep,Free Will,but saddled with a "Tendency" to do EVIL!!!I have got a challenge for you B.... just as an experiment... ask God for the Holy Spirit, anyone who asks the Holy Spirit of God into their lives won't be denied it... you have to ask with your heart..
I challenge you.. try...as a scientific experiment if you like..
How you will know you have received is you will get a sense of peace, increased clarity, you may have vivid dreams, inspirations, or receive thoughts that have a guiding quality, which you suspect are not coming from you..
Just try it.. I dare you.. God speaks to the most unlikely of people.
That is the Shabby Idea of Free Will by the Religionists.
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HJFinAZ: Yet so many will not listen..
God really works in mysterious ways... I read a book yesterday 'I dared to call him Father' Bilquis Sheikh... amazing story.. she didn't even go looking for God (Jesus) he came looking for her.... she was a high ranking Muslim, from a very privelaged background.... her family were all devout Muslims... she was practicing... not devout... until one day she came across a paragraph in the Quran relating to Jesus the prophet. something spurned her on so she read a little of an old Bible she had one of her servants get her which was in ancient Hebrew or Urdu or something so she could only understand bits... so she left it... soon after she had two incredible vivid dreams.. one where Jesus visits her house and has meals with her.. the other she was looking for Jesus.. and was brought to a mountain top where a man by the name of 'John the Baptist' pointed her the way... she had never even heard of John the Baptist... this story is from 60 years ago.... even reading a Bible would have brought about severe castigation... asking questions possible persecution... really extraordinary story!! have you read it?
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DICEMAN1: ....
Walk your Walk my Friend,don't let any Naysayers lead you off your chosen Path.You know what works!
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Aries01: We have the free will to choose how we live our lives and we have the free will to choose God... things like healing etc come from the Holy Spirit, i.e. God..
I have got a challenge for you B.... just as an experiment... ask God for the Holy Spirit, anyone who asks the Holy Spirit of God into their lives won't be denied it... you have to ask with your heart..
I challenge you.. try...as a scientific experiment if you like..
How you will know you have received is you will get a sense of peace, increased clarity, you may have vivid dreams, inspirations, or receive thoughts that have a guiding quality, which you suspect are not coming from you..
Just try it.. I dare you.. God speaks to the most unlikely of people.
I have got a challenge for you B.... just as an experiment... ask God for the Holy Spirit, anyone who asks the Holy Spirit of God into their lives won't be denied it... you have to ask with your heart..
I challenge you.. try...as a scientific experiment if you like..
How you will know you have received is you will get a sense of peace, increased clarity, you may have vivid dreams, inspirations, or receive thoughts that have a guiding quality, which you suspect are not coming from you..
Just try it.. I dare you.. God speaks to the most unlikely of people.
as long as you 'choose' god [or else!], its free will ...
this contradicts your 'increased' clarity comment... your experiment is somewhat mute Orla, I get all those things and more, from, how can I explain this, channelling alpha, beta and theta waves, working on chakra points, lucid and directed dreaming, meditating, and ethereal contact resolutions. Just to name a few.
I have also had 'body' experiences the same as you attribute to this supreme god, they are experenced biological responses to energy waves, instigated by thought. A very rational event. In fact I can create them in myself at will!!! I have the same 'touch' as the OP states and on a good day, at my choosing I can seriously influence someone in person, providing the intent of my influence is a good one. (a choice of my own sense of integrity)
As to other things I get from this, well I can alter the direction of biological responses in my body, I can reach people ethereally provided they are not closed off. And I am presently working on apoptosis. Ill let you know how that goes.
All without your god, or his holy spirit, because there isn't 'one' persay.
I chose. Your god doesn't use me or choose me, but I use energy, thats entirely FREE will, where I dont have to choose your god, or else.
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HJFinAZ: Yet so many will not listen..
sorry HJ .. been there done that, I'm a great listener .. got the T shirt ... the people who really are not listening are those satisfied with a god, that does little more than comfort. I have nothing against that, but there is so much more to life and the possibilites, not to mention the power and empowerment available to us humans that this god, pretends to own as his and his alone.
I chose god once, until I realized a far greater power, ironically supplied to me catholic nuns.
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First off I did not read threw the whole thread so forgive me if I am repeating what some one else has said ,
Lets get the TV evangelists out of the way first , they are complete scum that pray on the weak and desperate, people like beni hinn use blatant group hypnosis , and the ones that look into the tv and say stuff like some one is getting healed are doing what is called fishing if you have enough people watching you are going to get a few people that are desperate enough to believe that they have been healed ,
Now as for other healer’s (not the charlatans but the ones that genuinely feel they are healing) it works on the same process as hypnosis if some one believes enough that something can cure/heal them then it is possible to cure or alleviates certain ailments but it will in no way cure some one of a serious disease like cancer or HIV, there are some cases of spontaneous recovery however these are no more common then they are in hospitals
Lets get the TV evangelists out of the way first , they are complete scum that pray on the weak and desperate, people like beni hinn use blatant group hypnosis , and the ones that look into the tv and say stuff like some one is getting healed are doing what is called fishing if you have enough people watching you are going to get a few people that are desperate enough to believe that they have been healed ,
Now as for other healer’s (not the charlatans but the ones that genuinely feel they are healing) it works on the same process as hypnosis if some one believes enough that something can cure/heal them then it is possible to cure or alleviates certain ailments but it will in no way cure some one of a serious disease like cancer or HIV, there are some cases of spontaneous recovery however these are no more common then they are in hospitals
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crotalus_p: First off I did not read threw the whole thread so forgive me if I am repeating what some one else has said ,
Lets get the TV evangelists out of the way first , they are complete scum that pray on the weak and desperate, people like beni hinn use blatant group hypnosis , and the ones that look into the tv and say stuff like some one is getting healed are doing what is called fishing if you have enough people watching you are going to get a few people that are desperate enough to believe that they have been healed ,
Now as for other healer’s (not the charlatans but the ones that genuinely feel they are healing) it works on the same process as hypnosis if some one believes enough that something can cure/heal them then it is possible to cure or alleviates certain ailments but it will in no way cure some one of a serious disease like cancer or HIV, there are some cases of spontaneous recovery however these are no more common then they are in hospitals
Lets get the TV evangelists out of the way first , they are complete scum that pray on the weak and desperate, people like beni hinn use blatant group hypnosis , and the ones that look into the tv and say stuff like some one is getting healed are doing what is called fishing if you have enough people watching you are going to get a few people that are desperate enough to believe that they have been healed ,
Now as for other healer’s (not the charlatans but the ones that genuinely feel they are healing) it works on the same process as hypnosis if some one believes enough that something can cure/heal them then it is possible to cure or alleviates certain ailments but it will in no way cure some one of a serious disease like cancer or HIV, there are some cases of spontaneous recovery however these are no more common then they are in hospitals
start with looking up apoptosis ... after that I'll give you some other information that will change your mind on 'curative' results. Personally I think we are more able to cure ourselves than we are others, but anothers ability can be undeniable in cure. It is seldom the means that matter so much as the end result. As to serious desease ... most dis-ease is self induced and grows over time, and with enough time can be reversed by coming into 'ease'. Psora, among other things is curable in the dynamic body.
Just more abilities that relgion and gods have stolen from us, as if our fate is in their hands. Its not, it in our own hands, save the totally random events of life of course.
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BnaturAl: Personally I think we are more able to cure ourselves than we are others,
That was my point there is no such thing as hypnosis because all hypnosis is self hypnosis , there is an old saying in hypnosis “if some on comes to you believing that in order to help them you must hit them in the face with a dead fish then pour cold custard on there head , you had better have a bowl of custard on the table and a fish in your desk drawer" when it comes to the things that can be "healed" it all boils down to psychology
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DICEMAN1: Im a healer i heal people's pain with a touch of my hand..the question is..do you believe in healers is
it fake like those preachers that push people down and say your healed
it fake like those preachers that push people down and say your healed
Have to say I really don't believe in healers, not even doctors in a lot of cases. I think its more about the beliefs of the person being healed. Sort of like the way voodoo works/worked in the islands. Belief is a powerful emotion.
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crotalus_p: That was my point there is no such thing as hypnosis because all hypnosis is self hypnosis , there is an old saying in hypnosis “if some on comes to you believing that in order to help them you must hit them in the face with a dead fish then pour cold custard on there head , you had better have a bowl of custard on the table and a fish in your desk drawer" when it comes to the things that can be "healed" it all boils down to psychology
I agree in a way, for me it all boils down to realising the power of energy, genes depend on it, whether they go awry of not, they are still using whatever enegry supplied.
Genes will also change their purpose as I have said before, from a stomach cell to say a bladder cell, whatever the body economy calls for.... and because of how we think sometimes they change into dis-ease cells (and sometimes because of what we ingest as well) How we think, affects dis-ease, its a short step to common sense in realising that the reverse is also possible. Its not an overnight thing, I'm not suggesting that miracles don't happen, but in most cases the time to heal disease is proportionate to the time it took to be diseased.
It really irks me that this stuff is left up to 'gods' FFS!!! I wish I had known all this stuff long ago, because I would be an entirley different person today, and imagine had the world not been coerced and trod on by power mongers using gods and denying useful knowledge of self empowerment, how much different this world would be, how less diseased it would be, how less subjugated and more proud it would be ...
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