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SusieRR: War .....War........War ......thats all what these Bushney,s are talking about .......Disgusting in deed!
You're right "Fight fight fight" is what he said, over and over, McCain is awful and a frightening man.
That's all he could do to rally applause, that and mention the name Palin.
I can't wait until the debates.
You're right "Fight fight fight" is what he said, over and over, McCain is awful and a frightening man.
That's all he could do to rally applause, that and mention the name Palin.
I can't wait until the debates.
I am telling you Susie.....those Debates will be so Heated and so fabulous as nothing else in recent history!
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Obama was the one who hedged the war question the other night saying it would be "preemptive" to discuss the issues... and the the election was instead going to be all about personalities...
Why do you think he wouldn't answer the question about Iraq???????
If he REALLY was prepared to honor his promise and end the war, you would have thought he would say so - seeing as how according to you that's what this election is about.
Why do you think he wouldn't answer the question about Iraq???????
If he REALLY was prepared to honor his promise and end the war, you would have thought he would say so - seeing as how according to you that's what this election is about.
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WhatUwish4: Obama was the one who hedged the war question the other night saying it would be "preemptive" to discuss the issues... and the the election was instead going to be all about personalities...
Why do you think he wouldn't answer the question about Iraq???????
If he REALLY was prepared to honor his promise and end the war, you would have thought he would say so - seeing as how according to you that's what this election is about.
Why do you think he wouldn't answer the question about Iraq???????
If he REALLY was prepared to honor his promise and end the war, you would have thought he would say so - seeing as how according to you that's what this election is about.
First, I think that McCain has not said anything about the war except to "fight fight fight"
If you are talking about O'Reilly, Obama did say that it would be preemptive ... I think he makes sense and that Obama's answers are more complex than "fight...."
Definition of preemptive:
Taken as a measure against something possible, anticipated, or feared; preventive; deterrent: a preemptive tactic against a ruthless business rival.
Preempting or possessing the power to preempt; appropriative; privileged: a commander's preemptive authority.
Bridge. pertaining to, involving, or noting an opening bid or an overcall in a suit that is at an unnecessarily high level and that is essentially a defensive maneuver designed to make communication between one's opponents more difficult: a preemptive bid; to give a preemptive response.
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ttom500:
Suszie. All I am doing if you read the last paragraph is asking Dude to make a comprison of the women that are gonig to be in the White House this nect 4 years. I brought it back to the real question at
hand. Yes?
I identified my source......as such.......and said the article seemed to make sense to me. Do you have a better reason why Opra was not
at the DNC? I would like to hear it?
Suszie. All I am doing if you read the last paragraph is asking Dude to make a comprison of the women that are gonig to be in the White House this nect 4 years. I brought it back to the real question at
hand. Yes?
I identified my source......as such.......and said the article seemed to make sense to me. Do you have a better reason why Opra was not
at the DNC? I would like to hear it?
Ok I'm just commenting on what I think those kinds of quotes are and that's all. I didn't think you personally made that up.
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Hot_Single_Dude: Part 1......
Dark minded pastors asked God to destroy the democratic convention so they could be able to shout : "Did we not tell you that this man is Antichrist"?
And what happend? Actually the same disturbence these Hagee types who all endorsing McCain all over America happened during the first day of republican convention and GWB and Cheney both did not show up and the convention went wrong and all we saw of the "great" Bush was a satelite speech which was about not a damn thing and beside a Laura who talked so fabulously specially about how her hub brought peace and democracy and freedom for 50 million people!Of courseshe loves her little Sweet Full of care and honesty Bushy man ......so cute
In the third year of hurricane Katrina the convention which is made to make the same administration which has played a significant role in more of the same kind of disaster all over the world and and as often as never before to countinue, the convention of the Bushney,s went wrong and the evil wishes of those dark minded pastors beated their own convention....who says God has not a fabulous sense of humor one might think?
During the past days of the Race..... the VP of McCain is selected "they say" .......they call her some body with a lot experiences and with international knowledge and real abilities becoming the leader of the free world if some thing happens to McCain! They counted on because Palin is a woman then all democrats who rather wanted Hillary as the next president will autimatichally supporting Sarah Palin and the result of that spekulation is a big................."NOT" any way!
They have made fun of Obama and his experiences because of his age mainly and then they chose a person who does not even know how to write a speech her self and some body whose speeches is made by the staff of George W Bush and the same person calling the war in Iraq "God,s will"........some person whose personal behaviour is not what Repubes claiming is propper when talking a bout "others", a person who abused her power as soon as she got it and a person who probabely have not been a good Repubestyled mother any way, when all counts!
McCain has already produced "his first war" and now is spinning about the VP so he later can make her with draw and showing the real VP he has chosed, as a part of politichal spin to make americans becoming more interested to his side I bet!
A presidentail candidate who is not wise enough to know that international crisis is not good for America in a time as difficult as now, is not the man americans can trust on for real!
McCains most personal friends tell about him that the man "Does as he Wants to" and then he takes the consequences.....if some body thinks a man like this will be a great president for the worlds most influentional and most powerful power......they are so wrong I beleive!
In the scean of international diplomacy a so called Maverik is nothing than catastrophy because he will not listen to reason and he will not listen to judgments and he will not listen to the experts and he will not listen to those who know about the great dangers his decisions will result in and he will just "DOING IT" no matter what and this time......the consequences will not only be bad for him self or his family but for the whole american nation and for the whole humanity as well!
This Maverik "thing" these Bushney,s are talking about and now about Palin as well is not that good for any man on a position as important as becoming the president of the United States.....This so called Maverik behaviour will be a disater and those who do some thing against his so called Maverik behaviour will be disturbed in their lives and will be prosecuted as antiamericans and none patriots in Mccain kind of America!
Countinues........
Yep,it's going to End,but you ain't gonna like the Outcome!Dark minded pastors asked God to destroy the democratic convention so they could be able to shout : "Did we not tell you that this man is Antichrist"?
And what happend? Actually the same disturbence these Hagee types who all endorsing McCain all over America happened during the first day of republican convention and GWB and Cheney both did not show up and the convention went wrong and all we saw of the "great" Bush was a satelite speech which was about not a damn thing and beside a Laura who talked so fabulously specially about how her hub brought peace and democracy and freedom for 50 million people!Of courseshe loves her little Sweet Full of care and honesty Bushy man ......so cute
In the third year of hurricane Katrina the convention which is made to make the same administration which has played a significant role in more of the same kind of disaster all over the world and and as often as never before to countinue, the convention of the Bushney,s went wrong and the evil wishes of those dark minded pastors beated their own convention....who says God has not a fabulous sense of humor one might think?
During the past days of the Race..... the VP of McCain is selected "they say" .......they call her some body with a lot experiences and with international knowledge and real abilities becoming the leader of the free world if some thing happens to McCain! They counted on because Palin is a woman then all democrats who rather wanted Hillary as the next president will autimatichally supporting Sarah Palin and the result of that spekulation is a big................."NOT" any way!
They have made fun of Obama and his experiences because of his age mainly and then they chose a person who does not even know how to write a speech her self and some body whose speeches is made by the staff of George W Bush and the same person calling the war in Iraq "God,s will"........some person whose personal behaviour is not what Repubes claiming is propper when talking a bout "others", a person who abused her power as soon as she got it and a person who probabely have not been a good Repubestyled mother any way, when all counts!
McCain has already produced "his first war" and now is spinning about the VP so he later can make her with draw and showing the real VP he has chosed, as a part of politichal spin to make americans becoming more interested to his side I bet!
A presidentail candidate who is not wise enough to know that international crisis is not good for America in a time as difficult as now, is not the man americans can trust on for real!
McCains most personal friends tell about him that the man "Does as he Wants to" and then he takes the consequences.....if some body thinks a man like this will be a great president for the worlds most influentional and most powerful power......they are so wrong I beleive!
In the scean of international diplomacy a so called Maverik is nothing than catastrophy because he will not listen to reason and he will not listen to judgments and he will not listen to the experts and he will not listen to those who know about the great dangers his decisions will result in and he will just "DOING IT" no matter what and this time......the consequences will not only be bad for him self or his family but for the whole american nation and for the whole humanity as well!
This Maverik "thing" these Bushney,s are talking about and now about Palin as well is not that good for any man on a position as important as becoming the president of the United States.....This so called Maverik behaviour will be a disater and those who do some thing against his so called Maverik behaviour will be disturbed in their lives and will be prosecuted as antiamericans and none patriots in Mccain kind of America!
Countinues........
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A recent family poll here...........
1 voting Obama
10 voting McCain
Now this is a broad and well educated family with Bachelors and Master degrees and are professional, retired, and aged from 35 to 80.
Accross both men and women of the family. Scattered all over the country. Some I have not seen for several months.
And I did not ask them to read your threads or posts. I am the only one of us sick enough to do that.
Still looking for those Obama/Biden bumber stickers to appear here in Central Florida.
The offical poll there is 2 McCain and 2 Obama....a dead heat.
The last Obama sticker I saw was on a foreign car....small and fuel effiencent. Was a circle of red white and blue...very European in style.
Sure your advertising agencies there in Europe are not helping him?
Just wondering are you seeing any Obama political commercial there?
I mean paid commercials? Not just something that a newcaster would show.
1 voting Obama
10 voting McCain
Now this is a broad and well educated family with Bachelors and Master degrees and are professional, retired, and aged from 35 to 80.
Accross both men and women of the family. Scattered all over the country. Some I have not seen for several months.
And I did not ask them to read your threads or posts. I am the only one of us sick enough to do that.
Still looking for those Obama/Biden bumber stickers to appear here in Central Florida.
The offical poll there is 2 McCain and 2 Obama....a dead heat.
The last Obama sticker I saw was on a foreign car....small and fuel effiencent. Was a circle of red white and blue...very European in style.
Sure your advertising agencies there in Europe are not helping him?
Just wondering are you seeing any Obama political commercial there?
I mean paid commercials? Not just something that a newcaster would show.
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The little AOL poll that shows up when you log on showed McCain winning 59% to Obama's 37%... I know it's not the most official poll in the world - but it is in direct contrast to the same poll three months ago....
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Hot_Single_Dude: You told it Susie........ Simply but still very strongly
Obama running for VP?????
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SusieRR: First, I think that McCain has not said anything about the war except to "fight fight fight"
If you are talking about O'Reilly, Obama did say that it would be preemptive ... I think he makes sense and that Obama's answers are more complex than "fight...."
Definition of preemptive:
Taken as a measure against something possible, anticipated, or feared; preventive; deterrent: a preemptive tactic against a ruthless business rival.
Preempting or possessing the power to preempt; appropriative; privileged: a commander's preemptive authority.
Bridge. pertaining to, involving, or noting an opening bid or an overcall in a suit that is at an unnecessarily high level and that is essentially a defensive maneuver designed to make communication between one's opponents more difficult: a preemptive bid; to give a preemptive response.
If you are talking about O'Reilly, Obama did say that it would be preemptive ... I think he makes sense and that Obama's answers are more complex than "fight...."
Definition of preemptive:
Taken as a measure against something possible, anticipated, or feared; preventive; deterrent: a preemptive tactic against a ruthless business rival.
Preempting or possessing the power to preempt; appropriative; privileged: a commander's preemptive authority.
Bridge. pertaining to, involving, or noting an opening bid or an overcall in a suit that is at an unnecessarily high level and that is essentially a defensive maneuver designed to make communication between one's opponents more difficult: a preemptive bid; to give a preemptive response.
Preemeptive, Suzie....like GWB preemptive military opertions into Iraq to keep Sadams billions from being given to terrorist groups?
We have the concept, Susie...GWB started it.
Obama and other Dems flip on it. Getsupport for a large anti war movement in the country. Then realize that the world is a dangerous place and want to have it in thier bag of tricks if they get elected.
We get the idea of preemptive defense of the country. The Dem are using it to try to gain power in Washington.
Fighting.....Suszie can be taken many ways. Like a school yard fight.
Like a old west shoot out with two men on a street with hand guns.
Or with what is happening at times in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Fighting can also be preemptive. That school yard bully come over to knock you down....and you throw him a right cross to the jaw before he can.
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Obama hedged the question because he KNOWS if he becomes President that he cannot do as he has promised and simply pull out and forget the whole deal. He is avoiding the discussion because he knows it would blow his election stance.
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WhatUwish4: The little AOL poll that shows up when you log on showed McCain winning 59% to Obama's 37%... I know it's not the most official poll in the world - but it is in direct contrast to the same poll three months ago....
In line with my family poll. Three of the mentioned supporters for McCain were long Dem by the way.
WYW4, do you see a way that the liberal press could be playing games with the polls? Reporting only the ones they want to?
Often don't the media sponsor the poll and the manner it question is asked?
If you ask the question in a certain manner....you get certain results that are expected form what I have seen.
For instance.....if a liberal media......sponsors a poll.....and it directs that poll taking company to ask the question....would you support
Obama?
The poll company would run the poll and come back with a high percentage saying they would. They give the info to the media firm....
The media firm goes to programing saying'a recent poll on Obama support show ___% would support him.'
All during the primaries, I think that is what happened. That is was seldom a question that included his several rivals and the responder
had a choice.
Now it is heads up. Everyone knows that McCain is his opponet. They cannot be wishy washy on the question. My bet is that media is not liking right now the polls they are getting. Notice the number of polls being talked about in the media dropping?
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Judging by the sound level of their "Boos" to the media, it seems to me that the listeners are already extremely fed up with them. Now that we finally have a team that was willing to risk confronting them about it (and it was a huge risk considering the circumstnces), the American people have jumped all over it because they feel they can finally do something.
I honestly don't know how advertisers will react. Some big business leaders do not want McCain because they know he is after them for some much needed reforms. But they also know McCain is also going to work with them to help bring business back here.... And they obviously do not like Obama's suicidal economic approach.
So it's hard to tell which way they will go on this... But either way, as a journalist, I am very happy someone is finally holding the media's feet to the fire. What they have been doing over the past 20 years is simply inexcusable.
I honestly don't know how advertisers will react. Some big business leaders do not want McCain because they know he is after them for some much needed reforms. But they also know McCain is also going to work with them to help bring business back here.... And they obviously do not like Obama's suicidal economic approach.
So it's hard to tell which way they will go on this... But either way, as a journalist, I am very happy someone is finally holding the media's feet to the fire. What they have been doing over the past 20 years is simply inexcusable.
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WhatUwish4: Judging by the sound level of their "Boos" to the media, it seems to me that the listeners are already extremely fed up with them. Now that we finally have a team that was willing to risk confronting them about it (and it was a huge risk considering the circumstnces), the American people have jumped all over it because they feel they can finally do something.
I honestly don't know how advertisers will react. Some big business leaders do not want McCain because they know he is after them for some much needed reforms. But they also know McCain is also going to work with them to help bring business back here.... And they obviously do not like Obama's suicidal economic approach.
So it's hard to tell which way they will go on this... But either way, as a journalist, I am very happy someone is finally holding the media's feet to the fire. What they have been doing over the past 20 years is simply inexcusable.
I honestly don't know how advertisers will react. Some big business leaders do not want McCain because they know he is after them for some much needed reforms. But they also know McCain is also going to work with them to help bring business back here.... And they obviously do not like Obama's suicidal economic approach.
So it's hard to tell which way they will go on this... But either way, as a journalist, I am very happy someone is finally holding the media's feet to the fire. What they have been doing over the past 20 years is simply inexcusable.
When that FOXX newcaster said that the majors did not use the word LIBERAL during Obama's acceptance speach reviews....it spoke volumes to me. It is that little anmolly that sticks out like a sore thumb.
They just happen...these guys when on camera are speaking 1000s of words....and to avoid using the word Liberal in discribing Obama and Biden...so that it not used once? What gives?
Only one answer. They are in the bag.
And that is sad...WUW4...it truely is.
We had that earlier post on the media Society of Media guidelines. Do you think that that could be doing this? When I read the guidelines...it was mostly on how you address war on terrorism issues and Islamics....nothing with political campaign reporting.
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ttom500: They have played this game for a number of years though.....
yellow journalism of the 20-30...then it got cleaned up in the 40-50
then in the 60s with vetnam....left leaning came back.....80s it straighten around with Regan ...then mid 90s.....it tilted again
here we are today.....they have taken left positions and have left in management.....and want to effect politics.
So what is one to do. Listen to FOXX the POXX of left wing news:-)
yellow journalism of the 20-30...then it got cleaned up in the 40-50
then in the 60s with vetnam....left leaning came back.....80s it straighten around with Regan ...then mid 90s.....it tilted again
here we are today.....they have taken left positions and have left in management.....and want to effect politics.
So what is one to do. Listen to FOXX the POXX of left wing news:-)
Well you know part of my solution from past work, but I do also have a solid idea.. will discuss off the forums, though, ok?
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WhatUwish4: Just give me the news straight and I can think for myself.
Not many are able to do that anymore. They are taught in school to just believe what the "authority figures" tell them. Why do you think the evolutionists fight so hard to keep creationism out of the schools? It's not just the media, scientists are guilty of it as well. Science used to be the pursuit of knowledge no matter what the outcome. Now science is only interested in studying things in such a way as to come to the conclusion that they want.
Ben Stein did a movie not long ago called "Expelled". He was attempting to find out why only evolution is taught in schools. Notice that you never hear of that movie at all? It was only released a few months ago, made a limited opening and disappeared. I notice that creationists are willing to discuss evolution, but evolutionists refuse to discuss creationism.
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Yes, in N.E. Ohio we have tv commercials on both sides, just got one mail ad from the McCain side, and quite a few radio commercials about Obama that I hear from someone's radio at work.
I just got back today from a meeting to get Obama elected. I've been chosen as the canvassing coordinator for my neighborhood. Waiting for further instructions on that.
The turnout today was so good that we had overflow into an outdoor area, that's great! Especially in these neighborhoods where they say we have "closet Democrats"
I just got back today from a meeting to get Obama elected. I've been chosen as the canvassing coordinator for my neighborhood. Waiting for further instructions on that.
The turnout today was so good that we had overflow into an outdoor area, that's great! Especially in these neighborhoods where they say we have "closet Democrats"
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SusieRR: Yes, in N.E. Ohio we have tv commercials on both sides, just got one mail ad from the McCain side, and quite a few radio commercials about Obama that I hear from someone's radio at work.I just got back today from a meeting to get Obama elected. I've been chosen as the canvassing coordinator for my neighborhood. Waiting for further instructions on that.
The turnout today was so good that we had overflow into an outdoor area, that's great! Especially in these neighborhoods where they say we have "closet Democrats"
The turnout today was so good that we had overflow into an outdoor area, that's great! Especially in these neighborhoods where they say we have "closet Democrats"
That's all wonderful Suzie, but paid political commercials do not count as news coverage. Opinions are shaped based on the information we get from news reports... how can any of us make good choices when the media is distorting the facts, or only presenting a select set of facts, in order to sway public opinion?
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That's all wonderful Suzie, but paid political commercials do not count as news coverage. Opinions are shaped based on the information we get from news reports... how can any of us make good choices when the media is distorting the facts, or only presenting a select set of facts, in order to sway public opinion?[/
I was just answering a question someone had asked if we had many commercials -
I was just answering a question someone had asked if we had many commercials -
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SusieRR: That's all wonderful Suzie, but paid political commercials do not count as news coverage. Opinions are shaped based on the information we get from news reports... how can any of us make good choices when the media is distorting the facts, or only presenting a select set of facts, in order to sway public opinion?[/I was just answering a question someone had asked if we had many commercials -
Oh.. Sorry, I thought you were responding to my about presenting both sides...
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You told it Susie........ Simply but still very strongly