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Sep 16, 2008 7:08 AM CST Are the Dems so scared of Palin that...
teacherman
teachermanteachermanMilwaukee, Wisconsin USA5 Threads 260 Posts
jhall1128: Oh before I leave, John McCain might vote with the president (30% approval rating in the country) that everyone hates 90% of the time, but Barack Obama votes with Nancy Pelosi and the congress (11% approval rating) that everyone hates 97% of the time.

Keep that in mind.


So the doctors and hospitals should just keep getting richer at the expense of the poor that don't care have health care and are barely surviving now. I don't know the numbers but I'm absolutely certain that a high percentage of Americans that are not immigrants often have to choose between having dinner that day or putting gas in their car or pay their medical bills. Do you have any idea how many Americans are already in that situation. Universal health care wouldn't affect affluent people, they could still afford private medicine.
Any idea of how many children and elderly can't get the medical care and medications they need? I'm not jumping on the obama band wagon here I just thing health care is necessay for all. Rich or poor. I had a catastrophic health incident 1 year ago and it out me in bebt for the rest of my life. Before that my total debt was only around $3,000.
Now it is an astronomical figure
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Sep 16, 2008 7:08 AM CST Are the Dems so scared of Palin that...
HondoLaneNJ
HondoLaneNJHondoLaneNJtoms river, New Jersey USA4 Threads 694 Posts
jhall1128: Oh before I leave, John McCain might vote with the president (30% approval rating in the country) that everyone hates 90% of the time, but Barack Obama votes with Nancy Pelosi and the congress (11% approval rating) that everyone hates 97% of the time.

Keep that in mind.


I agree with you there too....grin
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Sep 16, 2008 7:10 AM CST Are the Dems so scared of Palin that...
HondoLaneNJ
HondoLaneNJHondoLaneNJtoms river, New Jersey USA4 Threads 694 Posts
jhall1128: They got hit by barbarians?

You know that when the Romans had conquered the world, it was the ONLY time there was complete peace on our planet. Pax Romana. Check it out sometime, chief. Despite minor rebel uprisings, there were NO wars, no bloodshed.


But then they were infected by liberalism....and it destroyed them. Just like it will to us....
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Sep 16, 2008 7:11 AM CST Are the Dems so scared of Palin that...
HondoLaneNJ
HondoLaneNJHondoLaneNJtoms river, New Jersey USA4 Threads 694 Posts
Fallingman:

Return to Africa???????????????????



I would have thought some of the "call it as it is" Republican types here might have had something to say about this extraordinary comment!


What is there to say? A man is not entitled to his opinion?

Some of us are not afraid of political correctness....
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Sep 16, 2008 7:12 AM CST Are the Dems so scared of Palin that...
Fallingman
FallingmanFallingmanDublin, Ireland29 Threads 12 Polls 11,436 Posts
HondoLaneNJ:



What is there to say? A man is not entitled to his opinion?

Some of us are not afraid of political correctness....


I'm not a fan of political correctness myself....but there is another word for this and as an honest man I think you might know it too!
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Sep 16, 2008 7:15 AM CST Are the Dems so scared of Palin that...
teacherman
teachermanteachermanMilwaukee, Wisconsin USA5 Threads 260 Posts
Fallingman: Well, let's see....until recently Georgia was part of the Soviet Union, or Russian empire if you prefer! Supposing Florida got notions of seceding and joining an alliance with Russia (or even Venezuela) to help surround and keep check on the US......how would you Palinites feel about that? Of course NATO members are bound to help each other. That is why bringing Georgia in is simply a provocation of Russia.....what is the point? Making the world a more dangerous place has been the hall mark of the Bush Administration. Why not break with that scary tradition?


Right on hondo....i don't agree with you on everything but you're smack on the nose on this 1!
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Sep 16, 2008 7:16 AM CST Are the Dems so scared of Palin that...
Sparky55
Sparky55Sparky55Somewhere, Afghanistan48 Threads 1 Polls 2,678 Posts
HondoLaneNJ: LOL! Yes he is....

He will do ANYTHING to win.....



Hmmmmm, that actually makes sense in a twisted sort of way laugh
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Sep 16, 2008 7:17 AM CST Are the Dems so scared of Palin that...
HondoLaneNJ
HondoLaneNJHondoLaneNJtoms river, New Jersey USA4 Threads 694 Posts
teacherman: sorry cursor error!!!!!
So the doctors and hospitals should just keep getting richer at the expense of the poor that don't care have health care and are barely surviving now. I don't know the numbers but I'm absolutely certain that a high percentage of Americans that are not immigrants often have to choose between having dinner that day or putting gas in their car or pay their medical bills. Do you have any idea how many Americans are already in that situation. Universal health care wouldn't affect affluent people, they could still afford private medicine.
Any idea of how many children and elderly can't get the medical care and medications they need? I'm not jumping on the obama band wagon here I just thing health care is necessay for all. Rich or poor. I had a catastrophic health incident 1 year ago and it out me in bebt for the rest of my life. Before that my total debt was only around $3,000.
Now it is an astronomical figure!


Doctors spend a lot of money to go to school for their chosen profession. Nothing is free in this world.

Why are the poor, poor? What did they do or not do, to get themselves in that predicament? Address *that* before you start stealing from hard working people to cover their butts...

I've *had* to choose between putting gas in my Jeep or eating...not fun, but I upgraded my skill set and got past it. Whatever happened to a "hand up" instead of a "hand out"?

Affluent people? Little class envy there? tongue

The children are the responsibility of the parents. I have no interest in being responsible for someone elses kids...Find the parents and put them in jail before you ask me for help: I'm all tapped out....emotionally AND financially.

No offense but, some may think that its a "right" to health care, but it's also a responsibility for EVERYONE to take care of their bodies. Not drink, smoke, eat like crap...not that I am any paragon of virtue when it comes down to it, but we cannot forget or abrogate the responsibility of the individual...

Health care is NOT a right...you have the "right" to purchase coverage if you can afford it: but you DON'T have the right to expect everyone else to foot the bill...
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Sep 16, 2008 7:17 AM CST Are the Dems so scared of Palin that...
FreeHappy
FreeHappyFreeHappyCleveland, Ohio USA15 Threads 2 Polls 258 Posts
Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All

* Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama plan will have the following features:

Guaranteed eligibility. No American will be turned away from any insurance plan because of illness or pre-existing conditions.

Affordable premiums, co-pays and deductibles.

Subsidies. Individuals and families who do not qualify for Medicaid or SCHIP but still need financial assistance will receive an income-related federal subsidy to buy into the new public plan or purchase a private health care plan.

What is wrong with the above? That sounds fine to me, especially with pre-existing conditions!

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Sep 16, 2008 7:19 AM CST Are the Dems so scared of Palin that...
HondoLaneNJ
HondoLaneNJHondoLaneNJtoms river, New Jersey USA4 Threads 694 Posts
Fallingman: Well, let's see....until recently Georgia was part of the Soviet Union, or Russian empire if you prefer! Supposing Florida got notions of seceding and joining an alliance with Russia (or even Venezuela) to help surround and keep check on the US......how would you Palinites feel about that? Of course NATO members are bound to help each other. That is why bringing Georgia in is simply a provocation of Russia.....what is the point? Making the world a more dangerous place has been the hall mark of the Bush Administration. Why not break with that scary tradition?


Provocation or an opportunity to expand NATO and halt communism. The fact is, Georgia seceded and Florida didn't.

I wouldn't miss Florida...

And the world has been dangerous loooonnngg before Bush.
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Sep 16, 2008 7:22 AM CST Are the Dems so scared of Palin that...
HondoLaneNJ
HondoLaneNJHondoLaneNJtoms river, New Jersey USA4 Threads 694 Posts
Fallingman:

I'm not a fan of political correctness myself....but there is another word for this and as an honest man I think you might know it too!


I can't speak for what is in another man's heart. And I will not suppose or condemn. He can clarify it, if he feels the need. Try not to read into things so quickly....
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Sep 16, 2008 7:22 AM CST Are the Dems so scared of Palin that...
Fallingman
FallingmanFallingmanDublin, Ireland29 Threads 12 Polls 11,436 Posts
HondoLaneNJ: Provocation or an opportunity to expand NATO and halt communism. The fact is, Georgia seceded and Florida didn't.

I wouldn't miss Florida...

And the world has been dangerous loooonnngg before Bush.


Errrm.....Russia isn't Communist anymore....in fact it is probably just as capitalist as the US. The Russian problem at the moment is that they think that as a large independent nuclear power they don't have to do what the US tells them to. Silly Russians!

I didn't say that the world wasn't dangerous before Bush just that he has done a lot to make it MORE dangerous
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Sep 16, 2008 7:24 AM CST Are the Dems so scared of Palin that...
HondoLaneNJ
HondoLaneNJHondoLaneNJtoms river, New Jersey USA4 Threads 694 Posts
FreeHappy: Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All

* Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama plan will have the following features:

Guaranteed eligibility. No American will be turned away from any insurance plan because of illness or pre-existing conditions.

Affordable premiums, co-pays and deductibles.

Subsidies. Individuals and families who do not qualify for Medicaid or SCHIP but still need financial assistance will receive an income-related federal subsidy to buy into the new public plan or purchase a private health care plan.

What is wrong with the above? That sounds fine to me, especially with pre-existing conditions!



In the hospital where I work, no one is turned away. We treat illegals and uninsured every day. Damned good care there too....
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Sep 16, 2008 7:26 AM CST Are the Dems so scared of Palin that...
HondoLaneNJ
HondoLaneNJHondoLaneNJtoms river, New Jersey USA4 Threads 694 Posts
Fallingman: Errrm.....Russia isn't Communist anymore....in fact it is probably just as capitalist as the US. The Russian problem at the moment is that they think that as a large independent nuclear power they don't have to do what the US tells them to. Silly Russians!

I didn't say that the world wasn't dangerous before Bush just that he has done a lot to make it MORE dangerous


In their hearts, they are *still* communists. And world domination is on their plate.

And the world being *more* dangerous....I see it as always being dangerous...no more, no less.....especially not with Bush. At least he stood up to it.
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Sep 16, 2008 7:32 AM CST Are the Dems so scared of Palin that...
Fallingman
FallingmanFallingmanDublin, Ireland29 Threads 12 Polls 11,436 Posts
HondoLaneNJ: In their hearts, they are *still* communists. And world domination is on their plate.

And the world being *more* dangerous....I see it as always being dangerous...no more, no less.....especially not with Bush. At least he stood up to it.


Well that explains it! Of course! Re-start the Cold War - we missed it.

But at least Bush is "standing up to it"! rolling on the floor laughing
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Sep 16, 2008 8:00 AM CST Are the Dems so scared of Palin that...
jhall1128
jhall1128jhall1128Williamsburg, Virginia USA7 Posts
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Sep 16, 2008 8:04 AM CST Are the Dems so scared of Palin that...
FreeHappy: Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All

* Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama plan will have the following features:

Guaranteed eligibility. No American will be turned away from any insurance plan because of illness or pre-existing conditions.

Affordable premiums, co-pays and deductibles.

Subsidies. Individuals and families who do not qualify for Medicaid or SCHIP but still need financial assistance will receive an income-related federal subsidy to buy into the new public plan or purchase a private health care plan.

What is wrong with the above? That sounds fine to me, especially with pre-existing conditions!

Wonder if Saint Obama is going to foot the Bill!laugh
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Sep 16, 2008 8:06 AM CST Are the Dems so scared of Palin that...
fireliter
fireliterfireliterAllen Park, Michigan USA502 Threads 14 Polls 5,902 Posts
As long as she maintains her distance form one on one interviews she'll be untouchable. when she stands in front of a crowd shes a over the hill cheerleader...her speeches has no substance...

Palin the best you can do for your party is stay away from one on one interviews. Unless you can get one to only ask questions that you pre-approve.
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Sep 16, 2008 8:08 AM CST Are the Dems so scared of Palin that...
Fallingman: Well, let's see....until recently Georgia was part of the Soviet Union, or Russian empire if you prefer! Supposing Florida got notions of seceding and joining an alliance with Russia (or even Venezuela) to help surround and keep check on the US......how would you Palinites feel about that? Of course NATO members are bound to help each other. That is why bringing Georgia in is simply a provocation of Russia.....what is the point? Making the world a more dangerous place has been the hall mark of the Bush Administration. Why not break with that scary tradition?
Georgia (Caucasus) WAS

Florida (USA) ISdunno
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Sep 16, 2008 8:09 AM CST Are the Dems so scared of Palin that...
fireliter
fireliterfireliterAllen Park, Michigan USA502 Threads 14 Polls 5,902 Posts
FreeHappy: Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All

* Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama plan will have the following features:

Guaranteed eligibility. No American will be turned away from any insurance plan because of illness or pre-existing conditions.



What is wrong with the above? That sounds fine to me, especially with pre-existing conditions!

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