BREEDING - unsustainable and ecologically incorrect (93)
bodleingGreater Manchester, England UK238 Threads 8 Polls 13,810 PostsEat the rich!!!
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bodleing: Eat the rich!!!
Sarah Palin?
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bodleing: Eat the rich!!!
Do they taste better?
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To me, having children is serious business. You shouldn´t have them JUST BECAUSE, and I think we´re long past (thank god or thank science, whatever) that so-calles "mother instinct" or whatever you call it in English, so we can be reasonable about it.
Thing is, there´s LOADS of teenagers out there breeding and they don´t even want to. If the individual is not in a position to make a responsible decision, should society stand by and watch the disaster?
Thing is, there´s LOADS of teenagers out there breeding and they don´t even want to. If the individual is not in a position to make a responsible decision, should society stand by and watch the disaster?
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bodleing: Eat the rich!!!
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BnaturAl: Sarah Palin?
You Betcha!
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CrosstownTraffic: Generally there is a good reason if there is parts of the world with less people on it, i.e. Unsuitable farmland. So spreading out wouldn't help much. You only have to read/ listen to the news to hear about new food problems where they have not previously been expected to happen. As a whole humans have exploited the planet, and we are going to have to pay. Either we have to try to start helping that process now by being more socially aware or face the alternatives of people smashing each others skulls in for the last tin of bean. Maybe this is the worst case senario but if the population keeps expanding the way it is then the conclusion is plain.
From time to time there are countries which open their borders for immigration. They need more people to maintain their level of development.
Yes, we do need alternatives...and we are doing our best...with YOUR contribution as well aren't we? I'm glad there is a crises at the moment. Time for the ecologists to remind us that what we need is to rethink and restructure our consumer and commercial habits.
When i get home in the evenings, i see and read more about the stock markets and fear for the banks...we really need to think that the recession is also a fresh breeding! I'm sorry...
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livinglarge: ah good point ,
howeva , whats new in people bashing each others heads in,
same ole ,same ole , if you ask me !
howeva , whats new in people bashing each others heads in,
same ole ,same ole , if you ask me !
No there isn't much new in that, but I can't help but think it would reach new levels once all the fossil fuels are gone, which would stop the farmers, the processing factories, the delivery, etc, etc. The supermarket would empty pretty quickly, and what would everyone do once all the dogs and cats are gone? Especially when you concider recently a survey was held in London and most of the kids when asked where milk comes from, they replied "from the supermarket". We are living in a unsustainable culture and a huge amount of people are not aware of ways to feed themselves with big stores.
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kidatheart: Do they taste better?
No but,
Their attitudes may taste like sh$t
But they go real good with wine.
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CrosstownTraffic: No there isn't much new in that, but I can't help but think it would reach new levels once all the fossil fuels are gone, which would stop the farmers, the processing factories, the delivery, etc, etc. The supermarket would empty pretty quickly, and what would everyone do once all the dogs and cats are gone? Especially when you concider recently a survey was held in London and most of the kids when asked where milk comes from, they replied "from the supermarket". We are living in a unsustainable culture and a huge amount of people are not aware of ways to feed themselves with big stores.
Yep I do understand that,
howeva ,how you gonna convince free thinking peeps not to have kids ,
in fact ,it seems an awful lot to put on the ones coming up,
"you are to blame" for the worlds problems " yikes it implies it ,no?
Anyway the economic situation is grim at the moment ,
I'm surprised a little scapegoating is'nt going on,
or is it.
In Ireland all that eva happened was Diaspora ,
thats changed a lot,
when I see that happening again (its not at the moment)
I will know we have gone back to a byegone era,
Is more of everything really gonna make us happy?
I don't think so,
will population controll solve the problems ,
I don't think so,
a fairer distribution of money, goods etc would IMO,
3% of the worlds population own the true wealth ,
scary !
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And, with this crisis, reasonable corporations shouldn't bomb us with ads in christmas time...i hope. That will decrease consuming...or maybe production in the first hand.
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cristina: The last piece it's not true in the rest of the world. Economic growth= decrease in population...now, why does that happen?
Higher levels of education?
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[3% of the worlds population own the true wealth ,
scary !
Yep, we should find out where those 3% are and go get them!!!
scary !
Yep, we should find out where those 3% are and go get them!!!
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cristina: Buhahaha
Ok then...only because you are not a stranger
Ok then...only because you are not a stranger
Cristina, I had a Norwegian BF ask me to do that to him once. It´s not the first time I´ve seen it. Weird notions...
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Moema: [3% of the worlds population own the true wealth ,
scary !
scary !
Yep, we should find out where those 3% are and go get them!!!
Yep ok ,
after you !!
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cristina: Buhahaha
Ok then...only because you are not a stranger
Ok then...only because you are not a stranger
Cristina, I had a Norwegian BF ask me to do that to him once. It´s not the first time I´ve seen it. Weird notions...
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Moema:
Higher levels of education?
Higher levels of education?
So, high educated people necessarily have less or none kids and lower educated have more?
I think that nowadays it's a matter of having someone to take care of the kids. That determines the number of kids...tendencially.
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Moema: Cristina, I had a Norwegian BF ask me to do that to him once. It´s not the first time I´ve seen it. Weird notions...
Hey now, I'm the giver
that was funny though
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livinglarge: Yep I do understand that,
howeva ,how you gonna convince free thinking peeps not to have kids ,
in fact ,it seems an awful lot to put on the ones coming up,
"you are to blame" for the worlds problems " yikes it implies it ,no?
Anyway the economic situation is grim at the moment ,
I'm surprised a little scapegoating is'nt going on,
or is it.
In Ireland all that eva happened was Diaspora ,
thats changed a lot,
when I see that happening again (its not at the moment)
I will know we have gone back to a byegone era,
Is more of everything really gonna make us happy?
I don't think so,
will population controll solve the problems ,
I don't think so,
a fairer distribution of money, goods etc would IMO,
3% of the worlds population own the true wealth ,
scary !
howeva ,how you gonna convince free thinking peeps not to have kids ,
in fact ,it seems an awful lot to put on the ones coming up,
"you are to blame" for the worlds problems " yikes it implies it ,no?
Anyway the economic situation is grim at the moment ,
I'm surprised a little scapegoating is'nt going on,
or is it.
In Ireland all that eva happened was Diaspora ,
thats changed a lot,
when I see that happening again (its not at the moment)
I will know we have gone back to a byegone era,
Is more of everything really gonna make us happy?
I don't think so,
will population controll solve the problems ,
I don't think so,
a fairer distribution of money, goods etc would IMO,
3% of the worlds population own the true wealth ,
scary !
Yes i can't disagree with anything you have said. I also wouldn't know how to convince the masses about having less kids, but at some point the issue will have to be addressed. The disribution of wealth is very worrying, Specially as most of these filthy rich corporations (many of them with more wealth than some countries) are making it almost impossible to produce susainable crops and resources. I don't know the answers, but whatever happens I am not going to eat my dogs!
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and who it 
should/would be? 
Government, special committees, the Führer?
Moema: It´s not about that either. I don´t feel less of a human being, before I even feel less of a woman, due to anything I believe in or decide to do.
The world´s always been a dangerous place - you´ve got a point. However, it´s not only to one person that you owe now. It´s to thousands of other living species who cannot tell you they need more space and they need to keep living as a species too. It´s to the next generations who will not have the same comfort or opportunities as you do now (it´s called "intergenerational responsibility" in Brazilian Law, even though we have less brains).
The point is not whether why I don´t want kids or why you do. It´s who should decide about that and on what basis.
Enough of me lecturing though, I want to listen to the opinions.
Cheers.
The world´s always been a dangerous place - you´ve got a point. However, it´s not only to one person that you owe now. It´s to thousands of other living species who cannot tell you they need more space and they need to keep living as a species too. It´s to the next generations who will not have the same comfort or opportunities as you do now (it´s called "intergenerational responsibility" in Brazilian Law, even though we have less brains).
The point is not whether why I don´t want kids or why you do. It´s who should decide about that and on what basis.
Enough of me lecturing though, I want to listen to the opinions.
Cheers.
Chinese realized? Take a look at population density in China. It was an emergency measure
Some might find it hard to wrap their minds around the big news in demographic circles today. It's not catastrophic population growth. It's catastrophic population shrinkage.
Yes, shrinkage. True, the total global population has not yet finished increasing. But nearly half the world's population lives in countries where the native-born are not reproducing fast enough to replace themselves. This is true in Western Europe, Eastern Europe, Russia, Japan, Canada and the United States.
Moema: ... Actually I´ve got a few ideas.
One, I think the Chinese realized a long time ago what I´m talking about and they took their own measures: one child per couple only. That´s sustainable; even though it may affect many people´s personal wishes, it helps the collective to be less chaotic .... .
One, I think the Chinese realized a long time ago what I´m talking about and they took their own measures: one child per couple only. That´s sustainable; even though it may affect many people´s personal wishes, it helps the collective to be less chaotic .... .
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